• manucode
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    5222 days ago

    I’m interested in how Americans pronouncebourgeois.

    • @[email protected]
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      6022 days ago

      as long as the French get offended by the pronunciation, then it’s pronounced correctly in American

        • @Jakeroxs
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          Lol Idk I’m not a linguist, me probably from hearing it pronounced that way in media.

          “DOWN WITH THE BOURGEOISIE!”

          Seems like it comes from the French pronunciation? Idk man

            • @[email protected]
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              Whoa what? I’ve never heard anyone pronounce tour as tu-er. At that point you might as well slap an umlaut on that bad boy

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                I’ve never heard anyone pronounce “tour” as rhymes with “sewer” in English. Perhaps in other languages?

                • @agamemnonymous
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                  Closer to sewer, or “doer” or “fewer”. Compress it to one syllable. Think “ooh” not “ohh”.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    120 days ago

                    I’m not… correcting you, I’m just explaining that I never hear anyone pronouncing tour such that it rhymes with either pronunciation of sewer.

                • @[email protected]
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                  222 days ago

                  Maybe you’re pronouncing sewer in thinking of a person who sews instead of sewer as in waste drainage.

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                    Drainage system = soo-er
                    Person who sews = soh-er
                    Exploring a place, with or without a guide = tohr

                    That’s typically how I hear those pronounced. Idk, I get the sense that some think I’m trying to correct the OP when I’m just trying to figure out how the hell something is pronounced.

                • @[email protected]
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                  Nah don’t get it wrong I get shit because I say tour instead of tore. Poem instead of pOh-ehm. Theatre instead of thee-ate-err

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              In most American dialects and some British dialects, “bore” and “tour” rhyme (called the “pour-poor merger”). But in some dialects it may rhyme with “sewer”/“two-er” or have the same sound as in “blue” or even as in “were”.

      • @gravitas_deficiency
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        A more aggressively American pronunciation would be bore-ge-oh-is.

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      1122 days ago

      ‘Boojz wah’, or if I’m feeling silly bourguignon. But I’d probably be more likely to use ‘middle class’ instead of the French.

    • I’ve heard it with varying degrees of the R sound. There’s a common shorthand “bougie” (BOO-zhee) that people often hear before learning the original term, so they’ll maintain the pronunciation into BOO-zhwa.

      Sometimes the R is slightly swallowed so it sounds more like BOH-zhwa, maybe very light throat vocalization. Or people skip over it and it’s buh-ZHWA. Some commit fully for BOR-zhwa.

      Universally seems to maintain (my non-native understanding of) the French “oi” and silent S.

      I have yet to hear anyone pronounce it correctly: bor-gee-oice.