• madcaesar@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    There are no human alphas. Without each other we’re all weak ass bitches. Just look at the series “Alone”. Even the most rugged outdoorsmen absolutely get fucked hard when they are alone.

    We’re a social species. Our strength is our cooperation. Anyone who thinks he’s above the rest kicking ass all alone is just a moron.

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        9 months ago

        To be absolutely clear to anyone who hasn’t read about this; it was debunked by the same guy who came up with it in the first place!

        The dude studied wolves in captivity, drew conclusions about their behaviour, then applied those studies to wolves in the wild and discovered that he’d got it all wrong. The behaviours that he observed in captive wolves were all stress responses.

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          9 months ago

          Because he’s a good scientist. He followed the evidence, ran a different experiment to test his findings, and followed the evidence again.

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            9 months ago

            Absolutely. He had the courage to question his own assumptions when they were challenged by new evidence. Everyone could stand to learn from him.

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          9 months ago

          So, what I’m hearing is that there are human alpha males… but only in prisons. That checks out.

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            9 months ago

            No no you’ve got it backwards. Those are just stress responses. Human alphas do exist but you have to put them in the wild with a hungry pack of wolves.

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            9 months ago

            Well then I’m alpha as fuck.

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          9 months ago

          Didn’t he also put a bunch of adolescent wolves together for that? It was basically a lupine Lord of the Flies in there.

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        9 months ago

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      9 months ago

      Not joining the whole alpha thing but where does alpha get described as lone?

      Meme Alphas are purported to be top dog but they still run with a pack

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        9 months ago

        True. Though I’ll add, none of these people actually are leaders in their friend group or community. They think that being an aggressive ahole makes them a leader when real leadership tends to be about gently convincing people that they want to do what you want done or that they should do it anyways

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      9 months ago

      What? Someone making sense about the social evolution of humans? Not on my internet!

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      9 months ago

      Stop your honking, Nancy. I know. I was calling people who claim to be alpha, “weak ass bitches.”