France’s defence minister received his German counterpart on Friday to ink a deal between the two countries to build a next-generation battle tank.

Defence ministers of France and Germany met in Paris this Friday to ratify an agreement on a new joint tank project called the Main Ground Combat System (MGCS).

This formal agreement kick-starts the development of the first phase of the armoured vehicle, dubbed the ‘tank of the future’ – a project worth billions of euros.

The new battle tank is set to replace Germany’s Leopard 2 tank and France’s Leclerc.

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    I would like to see a modern tank that is greener, and I don’t mean that as a joke.

    The amount of fuel consumed is insane. It creates logistics problems if nothing else.

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        The m1 consumes about 6 gallons per mile.

        In a large war that is a lot of fuel and supply lines.

        I know of Iraq/Afghanistan. They were testing solar to power the bases because they required so much diesel, and those were the convoys being attacked.

        I know people will call it woke but we need to green up the military to protect lives.

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            I would agree. As the climate changes, what is important will change.

            I think the average person outside of America doesn’t grasp the size of America. We have enough water, land, etc to feed our population if we plan correctly. Other countries don’t have that luxury and wars can be caused over a shortage of water and food.

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              You are busy fucking that up though. Through fracking for example.

              Also, plan correctly? When is the US going to try to start doing that?

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                We are, collectively, working to change that.

                Redwood materials is trying to close the loop on lithium recycling from ev purposes, we can expect us military-industrial companies to take advantage of the cost savings, if for no other reason than to say “here’s a silent tank, we’re pocketing 60% of the unit cost for… Development… Reasons”

                From acorns grow tremendous trees, it’s likely there will be a big change from an unexpected avenue.

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                I don’t frack. So I’m not sure you mean by you. Nor do I support fracking. Gas should be expensive.

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        The popularity of the new Fallout show tells me that it’s definitely time to revive the Chrysler TV-8 concept

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      Didn’t the Abram X showcase an all electric drive mode that could run independent and silent for a bit?

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          The Abrams has had an APU for a couple of revisions, doesn’t need to run the main engine for that.

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        I have not heard that. That would be cool.

        There has been talk of moving more electric but I haven’t seen much.

        The problem is the haters. If done right it’ll make our military even more lethal.

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        I meant like all German armoured vehicles, like Leopards, Gepards, Pumas, Tigers, Panthers.

        Who am I kidding tho, it’s going to be a wank and probably be named something like Panzerkampfwagen Zweitausendfünfundzwanzig Russlandgehundfickdichselbst in German, and something like Charabialeeraux (pronounced “arrr”) in French.

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        That will only give more jobs and power to the - naturally unionized - gearbox maintenance industry it will spring up, which will somehow capture the whole German MIC - and I mean both factories - due to only them being able to navigate the byzantine equipment requisition forms - all on paper and submitted in triplicate to the EU, the German government, and the municipality of Schmedeswurtherwesterdeich.

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      They got to lead development on this in exchange for France getting lead on the FCAS, so I kind of doubt it, short of the FCAS failing.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    France’s defence minister received his German counterpart on Friday to ink a deal between the two countries to build a next-generation battle tank.

    Defence ministers of France and Germany met in Paris this Friday to ratify an agreement on a new joint tank project called the Main Ground Combat System (MGCS).

    This formal agreement kick-starts the development of the first phase of the armoured vehicle, dubbed the ‘tank of the future’ – a project worth billions of euros.

    Ministers announced the distribution of contracts for the manufacturers is expected to be finalised by the end of the year – “an ambitious goal,” they told journalists.

    Developing a next-generation tank showcases how Europe is expanding its defence industry, attempting to compete with rising military technology from countries like India and China.

    But Boris Pistorius reassured the room claiming the common accord is a “sign of our mutual trust despite the current geopolitical context.”


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