• @[email protected]
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    14917 days ago

    I cannot believe they did this shit.

    Every time I look at the teams icon with the word new on it, my brain thinks that means there are messages.

    • @[email protected]
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      4017 days ago

      We had the teams update at work, with the endless notifications to let me know that a new version was coming, would I like to update early, on the 1st the update will be forced …

      • AggressivelyPassive
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        And the new Teams is not simply a replacement, no. It’s called “Teams (for work or school)” or something, while the old app is “Teams classic”. Both look the same and are the same sluggish mess. So why exactly did we do all that crap?

        • @[email protected]
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          All I know is that one of them has a /v2/ subpath on its URL, and the other has nothing.

          Oh, and calls work in Firefox one the /v2/ one. That’s an important difference.

          What I really don’t know is why they kept pestering me for months to make sure my browser supports the new version (where they know what my browser is, and only published enough requirements to tell IE won’t work) while they only changed stuff that makes it work better on it.

    • @[email protected]
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      Also the “we’re setting things up for you” or whatever user-dumb-hide-details crap the Teams PWA throws on your screen while launching is just… As if there was a live team of engineers carefully configuring your current Teams instance so that it starts up right. (A bit off-topic, but current trend of software “speaking to users in patronising manner” is annoying af. Unless it’s up to or exceeding HAL-3000 level, it should be abolished.)

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    6217 days ago

    “please use our spyware so we can syphon more of your personal info to get more quarterly profit… We are begging you. See how many apps we have for mail?”

  • @[email protected]
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    6116 days ago

    Don’t worry everyone, I’m here to help:

    Mail

    Garbage

    Outlook

    Hot Garbage

    Outlook (new)

    Shit-tier garbage

    Glad to be of service! Until next time…

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    Outlook (New) is such garbage. Web app, and doesn’t support plugins. Less functionality over all. Pathetic.

    • @[email protected]
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      816 days ago

      IIRC it also stores your account password server side and stores your emails there too, it’s literally just webmail.

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      New outlook is less functional but much better UI design (it’s just outlook web access after all). Outlook hasn’t changed in forever because so many corporate high ups use it and think they know how it works. They always respond to emails that are already answered because they didn’t see the newer reply in their inbox. I suspect this resistance is why it’s a totally separate program to the old outlook. Yes, there are settings to group threads in outlook, but the interface is still pretty unintuitive and the vast majority of these users don’t change their default settings anyway. In my experience the terrible defaults create more problems than outlook solves. And the server syncing can be really slow at times. Personally, I’m very happy that MS is finally showing some interest to modernize outlook, the more people who use it the easier my job will get.

      Also ya the name is stupid. Teams (New) gets me the most. Idk who possibly thought this naming scheme was a good idea.

  • @[email protected]
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    3717 days ago

    It’s even funnier when something like this happens to me and our IT guy goes I don’t remember installing that version…

    • @[email protected]
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      3317 days ago

      Probably didn’t, it’s microsofts dumb roll out of their updated with functionality removed deployment

      • Dhs92
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        1117 days ago

        Took them almost a year to add the ability to open .eml files in the new client.

        • Fuck spez
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          That’s because the new one is just the existing web app that loads inside an Edge instance so they were basically starting from scratch. I realized that when I discovered I couldn’t open the new version on my laptop that I had uninstalled Edge from.

          Oh, and MS is killing the old version. Joy.

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    2516 days ago

    We still use on-prem Exchange with Microsoft Office at work, and it’s really becoming a problem. Microsoft already auto adds shortcuts for 365 (which we don’t use and doesn’t work with our setup), and the “Mail” app (which also doesn’t work with out setup), and now I have to explain to people to use the regularly titled Outlook icon and not the “Outlook (new)” icon (which again, won’t work with our setup).

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    Stop calling out my commit messages… I swear “fixed bug x (for real this time)(ok now it should be fixed) added feature y” is a valid commit message scheme.

  • @xmunk
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    This is such a perfect demonstration of how useless Microsoft’s ecosystem is. It’s better than being forced to work in an Apple exclusive environment but “we’re a windows shop” is one of the biggest red flags an employer can have.

    • Edlak
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      It now can but not always. Still easier to point the default app to old outlook.

      • @[email protected]
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        An email client that can’t open email files? Hmmmmmm.

        Is this something to do with the fact it’s routing all emails via Microsoft servers?

        I am not a developer

  • @[email protected]
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    1415 days ago

    As the saying goes, there’s only two hard problems in IT:

    Caching, naming things, and off by one errors.