Too bad the article is paywalled
Ah, I know some of these words
It is. This seems to be an article about the study, which I think is in pre-print.
Considering that autistic people have hyper connectivity within brain sections but hypo connectivity between them, I wonder if psychedelics hit them noticeably different from normies.
Probably. Any Asperger’s kid around wanting to try some science?
I’m here! I’ve done acid and shrooms several times. I can talk about my experiences, but I have no idea if others experience it similarly.
Here’s a trip simulator that I find is pretty close to the visual experience: https://youtu.be/3BxiYkCPZwI?si=dVD6sPpk7KdhFx3e
I didn’t take a high dose, but I saw the walls of the room breathe. That was cool. But the most impact was on the other senses. Hearing, touch, proprioception, heat/cold…
I would feel the bedsheets with my hand and that feeling would wash over my whole body. I couldn’t tell where the bed ended and where my girlfriend started. We knocked over a bag of snacks and I could hear every single one of them hitting the ground, instead of a diffuse sound.
It’s like your brain doesn’t filter and process the sensory inputs anymore, giving it to your conscious mind raw. It’s overwhelming experience, in a good way. Sort of like a childhood winner coming back.
If you can get yourself comfortable and safe to avoid bad trips, 10/10 would recommend.
This checks out
That is remarkably accurate.
I appreciate you sharing that link. That doesn’t look particularly pleasant to me.
I don’t know that I’m autistic enough. Seemed to have a similar experience with both Shrooms and LSD as everyone else. I’ve only had one bad trip, and it was shrooms. A little Ativan and some company and I pulled through. It is usually a very happy, warm, and enlightening experience
Tilting my bio-cartridge.
Does that mean we are living with vsync on?
That’s what I feel. Like frames seem to get mixed together and I have to do a manual refresh. But this is also how I can build castles in the clouds.
It’s not desyncronized. Just synchronized in a different way we’re not used to.
Semantics are hard.
They’re not hard, they’re tough in a different way.
To be honest I hope my comment helps people understand the nature of psychedelics. Think of it as tl:dr
Can something synchronize in a different way without first desynchronizing?
The signal pathways change
I’d say yes.
If you have two instruments playing the same tune, they’re synchronised. You can keep them in sync, even when the tune changes, as long as it changes in the same way for both instruments.
That is still the same two instruments in sync. There was not a new resynchronization
They’re synchronising on a different wave length.
I don’t know how else you’d “synchronise differently”?
You’ve changed the tone. It’s a new thing. A different thing playing.
Yet at no point were the instruments out of sync.
I’m not arguing psychedelics don’t desync the brain (I feel the do sort of retune the instrument as it were, only for it to be better able to sync with others), I’m arguing you can stay in sync while changing what is that is in sync.
Yeah, no, that makes no sense, furthering my point that you can’t. The instruments are what is in sync. Not the music. Tone doesn’t matter. If the instruments remain in the same synchronization, then they are just still synchronized
Wow. Now explain poly-rhythms and asyncopated comping. You sound like a musical genius. /s
Yeah no, I’m not too shabby on musical theory.
Resolve a debate in a separate sub-thread of the comment you replied to.
When two people play instruments, and they’re playing at the same tempo (although this is prolly a simplification), are they not in sync at that point?
Or would they not?
No, I’m no musical genius, or even an amateur, it’s one of mh worst subjects, musical theory, but it seems to me that if we were to use the analogy of music to psychedelics, I think it would be a bit disingenuous to say the brain desyncs, unless it’s in a similar way as with a phase shift in music, but since that sort of still sounds good, wouldn’t we be able to argue phase music is still “in sync”?
Synchronisation has a lot of meanings depending on context. Biology, neurobiology, music, physics, friggin timetables.
So yeah, your expertise in music is of little use except to improve this analogy. I feel like you can’t comment on the original topic as much. Psychedelics and their pharmacology and neuropsychiatric effects.
I’ll be pleased to be proved wrong though.
Ok. Based on what? Definitely not that I cultivate and grow psilocybin. Couldn’t be that. Nor could it be that I make DMT as well. Definitely wouldn’t inform me on this topic at all. Moreover, I’m probably awful at all that music stuff, too. Shit, what could a faceless, nameless stranger on the internet know about anything? Probably not much.
You win.
