• Mango@lemmy.world
    1578·
    4 months ago

    I’m kinda with him though. If gender roles are bunk(and they are), and we’re not going by genitals, what even is the difference? I don’t want to be told I have to act any kind of way for what I’m packing or what my ID says. I also don’t want to go walking into a bathroom I’m not welcome in to go making anyone in there uncomfortable thinking I’m there to do any more than poop. What’s a gender supposed to mean? Someone’s good have a better answer than the self righteous nonsense people he’s interviewing.

    • funkless_eck
      447·
      4 months ago

      I see where you’re coming from, but if I tell you my name is Alex and you say “no,” - who is the asshole?

      Same if I tell you I like oreos and you tell me I’m lying.

    • Ephera@lemmy.ml
      284·
      4 months ago

      Well, anyone who claims to have an answer is just talking nonsense. We’re collectively figuring out this whole gender stuff in an ongoing social process.

      Some fundamentals we seem to be working towards:

      • Everyone should have equal opportunity in life.
      • Everyone should be able to pursue an identity they like. Equal opportunity should not mean erasing identity.
      • Everyone gets to freely choose which identities they find attractive.
      • Well, and in an ideal world, no one would need to feel uncomfortable.
      • Mango@lemmy.world
        535·
        4 months ago

        I don’t believe in identity past “I am me and wanna keep my finances and whatnot to myself”.

        • UrPartnerInCrime
          111·
          4 months ago

          Yes. That’s what everyone wants. To feel like “me”

          The problem is “me” feels diffrent to everyone.

        • Ephera@lemmy.ml
          10·
          4 months ago

          I don’t see why it would matter much, what you believe in with that. I’m not big on identity either. But the majority of people very much enjoy them.

          • Shou@lemmy.world
            6·
            4 months ago

            Not to mention people that aren’t you care much more about your identity. Though not explicitly. They will judge and treat you based on how they see you.

            It’s why people talk louder to babies after they hear it’s a boy. It’s why people percieve shorter people as dumber or less competent. It’s just how people approach others.

    • dvoraqs@lemmy.world
      143·
      4 months ago

      Maybe you’re looking for the gender abolition crowd. Gender-neutral bathrooms are pretty nice, giving more privacy with separate toilet rooms, but I hope you’re not too shy to share a sink area with men and women alike if those are not also in each of the rooms. You would not be unwelcome there unless you start trying to make people uncomfortable.