• @[email protected]
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    nobody ever went to mcdonald’s because it’s “good” but because it was cheap and fast

    now it’s none of those 3 things. no reason to go there at all. that applies to most other fast food shit too.

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        it was a franchise choice for that community. not to defend mcdonalds, but this happens, just not usually by genocidal groups.

        “In regard to the news that McDonald’s in Israel was donating meals. We affirm that it was an individual decision on their part,” McDonald’s franchise in Saudi Arabia said in a statement. “Neither global McDonald’s nor us nor any other country had a role or relationship with that decision, neither directly nor indirectly.”

        McDonald’s is a global chain but its franchises are often owned locally and operate autonomously.

        McDonald’s Corp declined to comment but a source close to the company in the U.S. said the Israel franchise was an independent business that licensed McDonald’s brand. The source said it’s not unusual for franchisees to engage with their local communities when they are in need.

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          Honestly? I don’t care if it was just a local franchise. Corporate HQ can force local franchises to stop this if they want to stay open.

          Plus, the food is shit. There are better places to eat.

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      When big mac is made right, and the ingredients haven’t been sitting around all day, it’s pretty dang good. Even their basic hamburgers.

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        Trusting that the underpaid and overworked employee is going to deliver a “pretty good” burger from a fast food joint isn’t a gamble many people are willing to make anymore. And I don’t blame those employees at all.

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        Have you ever had a cheeseburger at a real restaurant in your life? This is a serious question.

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          Depends where you are from. Food standards are higher in Europe, McDonalds can’t use cardboard for their burgers. Has to be actual beef.

          McDonalds isn’t as hated in the UK or Europe as it is in America.

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            I’m from Europe, and this doesn’t match my experience. McDonald’s is bottom tier fast food. Probably KFC is worse, but that’s about it.

            In general, to me it always seemed like Americans value fast food and chain restaurants way higher than Europeans.

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              Mcdonald’s food in Europe is at least edible though. It’s not necessarily high quality but it’s not as bad as American to seem to make out.

              Not that I really eat there very often because to be honest there are better places, but the existence of better places does not necessarily mean they’re terrible. Just not as good as the better places.

              They may very well be bottom tier but the whole ladder is higher up in Europe.

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              If every business has to keep to certain food standards, then McDonalds will still be bottom tier as they are in every other region. But the quality is still higher because every other business is too.

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              I think there’s some wiggle room on “bottom tier,” but yeah, it’s down there somewhere. I dont think KFC is worse, not in my experience. but regardless of this, the meat is real in the UK (at least) and across Europe (at most).

              Your individual tastes are subjective. I was arguing that the quality difference of a mcdonalds burger and a restaurant burger is not as big a chasm as OP made out. I’ve worked in plenty of restaurants, and many buy their burgers from the same suppliers that fast food places buy from. It’s the same meat in a different setting. In fact, I used to order food for a whitbread chain restaurant and a greene king chain restaurant, and a lot of it came from the same manufacturers. But people would swear by the quality of the more upmarket whitbread restaurant over the cheaper greene king one.

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                Your individual tastes are subjective. I was arguing that the quality difference of a mcdonalds burger and a restaurant burger is not as big a chasm as OP made out.

                I agree that they are basically the same meat from the same cows, but in my opinion there is still a big quality difference due mainly to preparation. A McDonald’s beef patty is too thin, too homogeneous, and overcooked. The lack of flavour is the result of optimizing for cooking speed.

                If you are willing to wait 5-15 minutes for your burger to be cooked you can achieve dramatically better results from the same cow.

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                Doesn’t help that the meat is real when the patty is 2mm thick. McD is so shit it’s ridiculous.

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            Where I’m from in NorthEast US

            • Taco Bell is absolute bottom, is not food
            • KFC is mostly chicken skin and fat
            • McDonalds is bottom tier that’s actual food

            I don’t go to any of them willingly.

            Minimum acceptable fast food

            • Chipotle
            • Five Guys
            • Panera

            Then again, on road trips, I generally stick with whatever swill paid to be in rest areas, so I don’t have to get off the highway

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    I won’t go back until hash browns are 2 for $1.

    Fuck outta here with this $2.00 hash brown bullshit.

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      You can get a pack of frozen hash browns for cheaper than that. Saves time, money, and tastier imo.

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            10 min? Vs like 3-5 min in the drive through, but I can do other shit while the air fryer’s going.

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              Oh, I’m not advocating McDonalds breakfast, but I remember them taking like 20 minutes in the oven. I’m not a morning person, so I do not plan my breakfast 20 minutes ahead, lol.

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                Air fryer cuts it in half.

                Can I shit on air fryers for a second though.

                How did everyone just accept this horrible example of marketing and branding nonsense? I literally had relatives explaining it to me like it was a magical new way of cooking just invented.

                Its a fucking tiny convection oven.

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                  Its a fucking tiny convection oven.

                  It’s marketing. They know Americans won’t buy an oven, but we love frying things.

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                  1. Doesn’t have to be tiny - there are go full sized
                  2. More convection than convection. While there’s not a clear definition of either, companies that do both distinguish them by windiness
                  3. Many countertop models don’t need pre-heating!
                  4. More automated, no need to think. Just press a few buttons and wait for the ding, like a microwave.
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                people downvoting the shit out of you for speaking truth to Big Homemade Hasbrown

                shit takes a minute guys, its ok that not every feature of a home made thing is superior to McDonalds

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                  Yeah, I’m not sure why I struck such a nerve, lol. I just got frustrated because I’m not a morning person, and hashbrowns eggs and bacon take forever! And I can’t get the timing lined up, since I’m half awake, so screw it. Bagel and coffee.

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                That’s when you throw it on the oven and then take a shower. Just gotta time it with what you normally do half awake in the morning.

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            Takes about 10 minutes in mine, full power and flip once.

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            Forever? I think an extra 5 minutes is worth the wait for anything better than McDonald’s.

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        Yep fuck that.

        2 for $1.

        And egg McMuffins and sausage muffins should be <$3.00.

        And the sausage burritos should be 2 for $1.

        McDonald’s trying to act like they’re a restaurant and not a fucking logistics company. The market rate of a potato doesn’t affect the price of French fries at McDonald’s when they legitimately own the rights to the only brand of potato that is used to make McDonald’s French fries.

        Any company that is known by all doesn’t do what the average person thinks they do.

        McDonalds? Logistics company

        CocaCola? Logistics company

        Ups? Logistics company

        Starbucks? Logistics company

        Miller/Coors? Logistics company

        Shaw’s? Logistics company

        W.B mason? Logistics company

        Exxon Mobile? Logistics company

        Amazon? Logistics company

        The price of sugar doesn’t affect Coca-Cola. The price of wheat doesn’t affect millercoors. The price of lumber doesn’t affect wb mason. The price of gasoline doesn’t affect ups. The price of coffee doesn’t affect Starbucks. The price of beef, potatoes, and dairy doesn’t affect McDonald’s. The price of oil (barely) doesn’t affect Exxon Mobile.

        These are the fucks that pull the levers. Not the farmers. Not the lumberjacks. Not the oil refiners.

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          The market rate of a potato doesn’t affect the price of French fries at McDonald’s when they legitimately own the rights to the only brand of potato that is used to make McDonald’s French fries.

          McDonald’s certainly has enormous buying power. I do imagine widespread drought or something would impact their bottom line by some pennies if it were severe enough. Anyway, I read:

          The Dakota Russet is one of eight varieties accepted [by McDonald’s] in North America. The most recent additions to the McDonald’s North American varieties were in 2016.

          Don’t see that one online but other varieties appear popular.

          Now, enjoy

          PROCESS FOR PREPARING FROZEN FRENCH FRY POTATO SEGMENTS

          (Other patents: methods of preparing / cooking food; packaging; equipment used in cooking food.)

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        $2.79, before taxes. Don’t forget these are US companies. And any charges outside the US have likely already been taxed locally, before international tax was applied.

        Don’t ever assume the US gov is paying you fairly. Taxes are only an excuse for them to make even more money by manipulating the rules.

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      $2.50 Cones were my breaking point. The tourist trap general store next to me does a decent waffle cone for $4.

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    I miss cheap fast food. Feels like it will never come back anywhere.

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      Hole-in-the-wall ethnic food shops/take out are the way. If you want 'murican fast food, you gotta break the bank… but find a little family owned taqueria that does their shit right and you can stuff your face with the best tacos you’ve ever eaten for like $3. Highly dependent on your local options ofc, so keep an eye out.

      In my experience, the sketchier the restaurant looks, the better the food is.

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        If a restaurant looks shady and stays in business, it’s either a front or the food is delicious.

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          And if it’s a front the food might still be awesome because it’s some rando doing their home cooking to cosplay as a restaurant worker

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            Yeah the fronts specifically want to pay for halfway plausible quality ingredients to mask their income.

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          Does this pretty much imply that if it looks shady and stays in business, but the food is shite, then then business is a front for money laundering or other criminal activities? Because there is this absolutely trash Mexican place near where I live and it’s always dead (no business) and the food is suspiciously bad like “the refried beans are dry and look like they’ve been sitting out for days” kind of bad. And this place has been “in business” for like 15 years.

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            It could also be a hobby business to keep someone’s spouse/family busy and out of the house.

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            There’s a Bosnian place right next to an amazing Mexican place we like to go to. The Bosnian place always has people coming and going, but never staying for more than 5 minutes, and never walking out with food in hand. I’m pretty sure it’s a front.

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            Yes. Otherwise there wouldn’t be any point in keeping it open.

            Restaurants have notoriously thin margins, so to stay in business 15 years, something shady is happening most likely.

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        I was amazed to find out the chicken place I order from looked nice (for a sketchy hole in the wall ethnic food place). $30 CAD for two or three days worth of INCREDIBLY good chicken and fries

        Like seriously, it was dying mall food court sketchy when I expected, “…You killed the health inspector with a pan to the head didn’t you?” sketchy

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        In Louisiana some of the best fried chicken and other Cajun food is in gas stations. Not even joking. It’s usually small towns, but there are some around NOLA and other cities, too.

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          Best fried chiicken i ever had was at a gas station in the middle of nowhere off ther interstate in Mississippi.

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            One of my best fried chicken experiences was a $5 fried chicken buffet somewhere in rural Kentucky near Lincoln’s birth home.

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          Those breaded skewers with chicken/pickle/onion/potato you can get at roadside stations down in the MS delta area are absolutely incredible and I love them. Any time I’m passing through there I have to find some.

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          What is Dick’s charging these days? My local equivalent burger joint has a double with fries for just over $8. Easily the best I can do around here.

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            $8.10. Their advertised base wage ($21/hr) must be lower than their actual base wage. I saw a posted at location janitorial position with a $23/hr start.

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            $5.30 for a deluxe, $2.80 for fries.

            Dick’s and a taco truck in the same area ($2.50/taco) are my go to cheap but delicious lunch options.

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        I wish we had those around here. Even the hole-in-the wall Indian places start their plates at like $12. It’s absurd.

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        You absolutely can get great American food from a hole in the wall. Also, I’m not sure why you had to say ‘murican as if our food has something wrong with it. Just a weird flex. I’m lucky to live in a city with a plethora of food trucks all around and you can get pretty much any kinda cuisine for cheaper than fast food joints.

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      Cheap food is still out there, but it’s not corporate food.

      Corporations put profit above all, which is anathema to how every successful chain became successful. Whatever mechanism they had to stresamline production, negotiate with vendors, push addition products (would you like fries with that?), their primary goal was always consistency and value. You know what to expect, and it’s worth the money.

      You’ll find that now in local diners, in food trucks, in cafes, and in small restaurants where they value good food over profit, but you won’t find it at most chain restaurants.

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        Food trucks are hit or miss. The food can be OK but the ones here tend to be very overpriced for the quality.

        Someone else mentioned ethnic places which have become my go to for good, cheap food. There’s a gyro place near me where you can get a gyro and fries for like $7. It takes 5 minutes and the food is fresh.

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          BBQ trucks tend to be way overpriced in my experience. But that may be biased because I make damn good BBQ. I have friends that ask me to make food for their birthday parties, diaper parties, bachelor parties etc. paying $12-15 for a sloppy mess of a pulled pork sandwich with no taste other than the sauce is absolutely unacceptable. That being said, I’m far enough away from any BBQ “hub” that nobody here knows what good BBQ is.

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      Taco Bell still has $1.25 bean and rice burritos where I live. It’s like 400 calories so it’s a pretty good deal.

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        Not here! The burritos at Taco Bell here are outrageous. A single bean burrito is 4.50CAD. The 7-layer? 8 BUCKS. The Grilled Cheesy? Fuck you, over ten dollars for a single burrito. A burrito that isn’t heated right, has all the ingredients separated into disgusting pockets of single ingredient, and makes you feel terrible after eating them.

        And mind you, these aren’t even combos. This is just one burrito.

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          UK Taco Bell is somehow worse.

          They seem to be trying to trade on the novelty/name, because there is no chance I’m paying £8 for a taco the size of a hamburger.

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          They aren’t even cheap anymore, damn near $2+ basic bitch tacos. I can go elsewhere and get a street taco (with multiple meat options) for a buck that’s actually flavorful and warmer than room-temp, and that’s in fucking Ohio

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      I assume you are North American, look for small ethnic food shops. You will find better food at a cheaper price.

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    Notice they are too embarrassed to post their prices online. To see the price, you have to put the item in the cart then use some bs 3rd party app. WTF McDs?

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      “If you have to ask the price, then you can’t afford it” happening in a McDonald’s, while people are out here financing a pizza from Dominos. It’s like we lost the Cold War.

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        That’s too insanely dystopian for anybody in sci-fi to have predicted it.

        The closest would be Demolition Man having Taco Bell (or Pizza Hut) as fancy dining. But they imagined the chain upping its game when it gained monopoly. How naive.

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      That’s how they charge different prices based on region.

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      Taco Bell does this too, because their prices are so ridiculous now.

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        Warning! This definitely reads like a taco bell add but I just really appreciate taco bell for having food for vegans and not price gouging like the rest did.

        Hard disagree, if you learn what to order and how to customize your food.

        Fat ass burritos for 3.50 are not a bad deal imo, and I regularly make my own burritos at home.

        They have some trap items to avoid for sure, but the staples are still cheap. Hard shell and soft shell, rice and bean burritos, nacho fries are sort of in the middle price wise, etc.

        They are the easiest place for me to make a vegan order from hands down, they actually label shit on their order tablets. They have some freebies that are totally worth it some people never find out about because they order at the speaker exclusively. Fresco replaces cheese and dairy with a pico de gallo, you can toast most regular burritos, and even though its extra you can add nearly anything into anything for super cheap.

        Im actually not sure if I’m scamming them somehow because choosing their cheapest items and modifying is always cheaper than buying the same thing but premade. Not in any rush to ask about it either.

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          No, they absolutely price gouge. A 7-layer burrito here is 8 bucks before tax, just the burrito alone. They don’t have anything that’s actually cheap here in Canada, and I can get much better for the same price. Their “vegan” options here are also basically just their regular burritos with beans, and are just as ridiculously overpriced. It’s bottom-tier garbage food at way-too-high prices for what you get.

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            What is Canada doing to make taco bell so expensive. I’ll have to check next time I go, I know some of their menu items are poorly priced for sure but I just avoid them. 8$ for a burrito I’d be shocked to see at my local one though.

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              I wish I had a better answer than just “pure and unchecked greed”, but that’s what’s most likely. They can’t even be considered the “cheap” option anymore and the quality isn’t any better to make up for the increased prices.

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                Well at least burritos and tacos are stupid easy to make. I make a bean and rice and tomatoes mix in rice cooker all together. But yeah thats a bummer taco bell is awful near you, they’ve been great for me especially with the vegan friendly menu. Is it possible its only cheap if you avoid meat and dairy? Maybe thats the trick.

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                  The vegan friendly stuff is the same price as their beef equivalents here. Taco Bell in Canada is obnoxious.

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    Honestly, I’m amazed people still go there to eat. The food was never really good, but at least it used to be fast and cheap. But these days, it’s neither anymore. McDonald’s is now more expensive than the gourmet burger places in my city; that feels insane.

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      It always takes a year or two for the business to really feel it. First, it takes consumers awhile to visit and realize the prices are so high. Most people aren’t going to McDonald’s every week. And sometimes it takes a few visits before they really notice the sting.

      Eventually, the place just gets a reputation for being pricey, and people slowly stop going. But it’s a frog in a boiling pot thing, and of course the executives search for any other reason besides their own pricing decisions from 18 months ago.

      Have you ever noticed in those surveys they always ask “what can we do better?” And the answers usually don’t include “be cheaper”.

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          Another reason it “can’t be pricing”. Look, these locations are doing fine. What’s wrong with yours? Clearly the problem lies with local management and, clearly, vitally, not with executive decisions.

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    I’m so glad that I live in a big city, where there are hundreds of awesome small burger joints that sell better quality burgers at a much lower price.

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        Yeah where I live there’s a burger urge. Sells shitty burgers for like 30 dollars AUD

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        My nearest burger joint is locally owned and charges $11.75 for a single burger and $12.75 for a double. The fries are $3.50.

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      I’d argue people don’t buy at McDonalds because their burgers are awesome. Their burgers are average at best. You can definitely get a much better meal with the price of a McD meal.

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    McDonald’s whole niche is “cheap but edible”, the second you remove cheap from that equation the value proposition is gone.

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    Oh wow… Increased prices resulted in people going else where… Who would have seen that coming 🤔

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      I mean, you’re half right. Yeah, it’s gotten expensive, but it’s now expensive for McDonald’s-quality food. It’s not the worst of the worst, but you can easily find better quality food cheaper.

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    When fast food is as much or more than grocery store sushi, fuck it, I’ll park the car and go grab some fish.

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    Scrolled through for a while and didn’t see anyone complaining about ditching coupons for their app bullshit. I’m not using an app for fast food

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      But how else are they going to complete their digital transformation and leverage their industry-leading customer volume to deliver high-quality consumer data and drive growth for shareholders? Why don’t you care about the shareholders?!

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      Eh, I’m okay with an app as long as it’s good.

      The McDonald’s app is not good. At all. In the slightest. It won’t even let me login 99% of the time.

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        I think they did something to throttle user access. I was using it once 3-4 times a week. Either just the Friday fries or a drink for $1. Now I can’t log in anymore. Seems to me like they wanted to stop people from using it.

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        If the same experience can be made using a website, then an app is not needed.

        They only push the app because they “need” to be able to send you notification and sell the data they gather about you.

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          For that to happen, the app needs to actually work. Otherwise, it’s not staying on my phone.

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        it’s literally one of the worst experiences of any app. it’s SLOW as fuck, barely responds when you touch stuff, took weeks to get logged back in like you said you had issues with. some of the deals are ok, you can get chicken sandwich combo sometimes for like $6, but that’s about it. their chicken sands aren’t bad.

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        Here’s the problem. How to get the average person to think far enough into the future to understand why the data collection is almost always a bad thing for them.

        In most cases it will save you in the long run to avoid the app discounts than to use them.

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      I’m currently waffling on whether or not to use my bank account info with the app for a small gas station chain. It would get me a $0.10 discount per gallon, but I’d have to use the app at the pump. I get that they’d save fees with credit card processors so that’s why they’re offering it, but using a credit card is so much less effort and doesn’t require me to keep yet another app on my phone.

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        I find with a lot of apps like that they’re glorified web browsers, which means that most of the time you can just use their mobile site. One less app collecting data, draining battery etc

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          I still get cheap coffee there. The other day, the drive through person asked if I have installed the app yet. I awkwardly replied “no”. It was a hard push.

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        Get a Costco membership then get gas at Costco with the Costco Visa. Sure, they know everything about you, but at least it’s a single company and you’re not giving them direct access to your actual bank account.

        I drove all the way from Chicagoland to around Pensacola and back, only got gas at Costcos along the way. Saved probably $20 just in price difference between Costco and other nearby stations, while also earning 4% back on the Visa.

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            there’s like 10 around me (washington DC) within 20 miles, but the amount of shoppers, it’s insane and more headache sometimes. bj’s is a good alternative if they’re around you.

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          Costco only has their gas stations open during the day, and I rarely have the time to waste a half hour getting a tank.

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    Last month, the head of its US operations formally responded to the complaints with an open letter to customers, saying social media was painting an inaccurate picture. He said the average price of a Big Mac in the US, which is now $5.29 (£4.11), was up 21% since 2019 - roughly in line with the pace of inflation - and many items had risen by less.

    Sure, place the blame on anyone but themselves.

    $5.29 is ridiculous for a Big Mac, which is super tiny.

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      Especially because that’s just the sandwich, not a side and a drink. A combo meal is like 10.15$

      I’m sorry but the quality of the food does not justify 10 dollars.

      For comparison, I remember in Berlin not even 5 years ago I got a currywurst with fries and a drink for 3.60 € (about 3.90$), and in London I got an absolute mound of fish and chips with peas for like 6.50 £ (about 8$). Both of these I got as much or way more food than a Big Mac combo and they were much better quality.

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        I won’t defend McDonald’s, but you’ll struggle to get fish for under £7-8 now, and the chips are £2-3.

        In the south, at least.

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      roughly in line with the pace of inflation

      Roughly in line with the terrible inflation of the past 5 years which has been primarily driven by corporate price gouging.

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      I think you hit the nail on the head there. Even if they were to lower the prices, they’ll just make the fucking burgers even smaller.

      Does anyone remember how much bigger the Big Mac was in the 90’s? Shrinkflation is everywhere.

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    I think we have two classes of “fast food” now. The higher class places like Five Guys, Poke Bros, Panera are going to cost you more, and you’re not going to go there every day (or even every week), but they’re pretty damned good.

    The OG fast food places - McDonald’s, Burger King, Wendy’s, Hardee’s/Carl’s Jr., Arby’s, Taco Bell - they’re just not good enough to command the higher prices that the new class of fast food can. Not to mention that the quality of all of those chains has declined dramatically in the last decade. Obvious drop in quality plus increase in price, people notice that.

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      … They have always been. There is fast food and fast casual.

      Fast food would love to be fast casual, they sell the idea to seem like fancy fast food. Like McDonald’s having table service through the kiosk, etc.

      But this isnt new. It’s literally the business plan of the places you mentioned to not be fast food.

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      Except you can get a Duo meal for $7 at Panera that’s soup sandwhich and chips and that’s 3$ cheaper than McDonald’s

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        I’ve never met an Panera that has everything in stock, so you’re going to be making a second or third line choice. One of your items is guaranteed to be out. Regular sandwiches, god knows why, are $14.

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          I used to love Panera back in high school, which was early 2000’s. As someone who hung out with friends at a movie theater on weekends it was the best place to eat at in the same strip mall. I still remember getting sandwiches for $4 or $5 at the time. If I was in high school today there is no way I could eat there, and if I could I also couldn’t justify spending that much. I feel like they are scrambling as well, changing a lot, making products worse, adding items nobody wants, just trying to hit big with one of them. My wife really wanted to try the new caprese sandwich they have, we were dying when she got it and all you saw was bread… when she opened it up there was like 1 slice of tomato and 1 slice of mozzarella and it was the saddest sandwich I’ve ever seen. I thought it was hilarious until I realized we paid over $10 for that joke…

          Sharing the pic so everyone else can join in on the laugh. Bad sandwich

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            My biggest gripe with them is they always add one hipster element that totally ruins the sandwich. Oh you want a high end grilled cheese? How about we put a blackberry reduction in that bitch? Grilled chicken sandwich? Why not try one with our new habanero peach marmalade?

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        Lol no you can’t. I didn’t believe you, so I checked. $11.79, and that’s for mostly cheaper options of the pick 2 (broccoli cheddar + frontega chicken). And I live in Missouri, where shit’s cheap.

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          Sorry, they are called Duets, not duos. They still come with apple/bread/chips. You cant sub anything out, but it’s still a good portion for healthier fast food option.

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            Whoopsie doodle. Well $8 ain’t $7 either.

            But yea I’m shocked there’s anything reasonably priced @ Panera.

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              They must have gone up in the past few months. It was 6.99 last I got them I thought. Oh well! Still cheaper than a big mac or whopper

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                Last time I tried to get fast food was like 2 or 3 months ago. I went to Taco Bell, saw that the beefy 5 layer burrito was like $4.50, and just left the drive through. Fuck all that

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                  Taco Bell is my go to - I am vegetarian so my opinions are slim. But for $7 I can’t get a crunch wrap with black beans, a cheesey bean and rice burrito, and a fiesta potato and a drink with thier app combo. Then after every other meal (like every to weeks) I get a bonus something. So. Yeah, I only mess with the build your own cravings box… 9 dollars for 3 tacos and a drink is ridiculous.

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          And I live in Missouri, where shit’s cheap.

          Also “The show me State” and you got shownnnn awwwwwwshit boyeee

          ;D

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      Sadly the Panera here has become garbage. The staff were seemingly wholly replaced, they look unhappy all the time, the food and ingredients have shrunk, and now you have to hope you hear them call your name so you can go pick up your food from a completely different counter (they used to bring it to your table which was a nice perk of going there), or stand around like an idiot for 10 minutes while your kid or significant other holds a table for you. And to top it off, the cinnamon roll changed again.

      I don’t mind not having the food brought to me, but they could at least give us the hockey pucks again to alert us when the food is ready. Perhaps that’s just this specific store.

      I used to love Panera. Maybe somewhere it’s still good.

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    Definitely don’t work to make the “food” better, yeah, just price gouge like every other company now.

    No loss for me since I don’t go there anyway. But my childhood weeps a little for the good ole days.

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      McDonald’s may be shit but at least they’re generally consistent. I know what I’m getting when I go there. And (for me at least) it’s a quick fix if I end up coming home late and don’t feel like cooking. The issue is cheap shit is supposed to be cheap. 5 years ago I could get a burger and fries and water for 4-5 bucks. Now it’s almost 9.

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        Aren’t they coming out with that $5 meal deal?

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          I got the $5 meal deal the other night. Dr Pepper for my drink was an upcharge. I’m not sure what drink is supposed to come with it then.

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              Water is a chemical. It is composed DihydrogenOxyde, which is a very polar molecule, allowing it to dissolve a huge number of other chemicals. Anyway, I’m sure it’s dangerous and they can only add soda flavoring to it in order to reduce its effects on thirst.

              It is well documented that every person alive today will die just hours from drinking this chemical. And as you know, everyone who has ever lived died hours or days after the consumption of water. There are only few chemicals more potent that can claim such numbers. One of them is Argon.

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                Studies show that 100% of serial killers have Dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO) in their bodies while committing murder!

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                  Don’t you find it weird looking at all the moms at the park, with their kids, all of them consuming DHMO? Yeah. In plain light of day. And the police don’t care, they drink it too!

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        Their consistency is sadly what made me buy McD at every country I was in Europe last year. At some point I got tired of.the food I could find there, and just gave up and bought a Big Mac meal at least once per country.

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            I was backpacking, so my budget was right. McD was a way to treat myself without regretting spending too much money on something disappointing, and I did find disappointing food in Europe. Mainly in Germany, and the UK.

            Convenience store food was great in Switzerland, though.

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          Maybe I should congratulate you on being there long enough for that to happen.

          A few years back I had a work trip to Singapore. It was a great experience and memorable in many ways. However the worst part is the client decided to “treat” me to familiar food and bought Pizza Hut. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I didn’t go halfway around the world to visit a different culture to experience my own country’s fast food

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            I’m from Mexico. The difference with the US is that in Mexico we actually season our food ( :P ).

            But yes, I believe the difference was that I was actually expecting something more than just “edible” in Europe. I bought a beelinese in fucking Berlin, for God sake, and it was the most boring piece of bread I’ve tasted, and I got it in Berlin! Where the bread is from! And it taste like cardboard. I found a nice beelinese in Switzerland, though, and the best part is that I bought it at a convenience store lol.

            I tried Currywurst as well, and it was just a sausage with ketchup and curry powder?!? WTF it reminded me to the cheap food I had to eat while being a broke college student. How in the hell is Currywurst something people want to eat?!? There was a queue and the place was a well-known venue… For a freaking sausage with ketchup!

            I also had the worst pasta I’ve ever had in Europe. I can’t believe that being so close to Italy their pasta is so bland. I tried a local Italian “restaurant” to treat my and my SO, and lol the food was bad. It was ok for us, though. It was a hot meal for once, and the portions were great, but by no means I could call it “Italian food”.

            At some point we got tired of wasting our money on “eating local” and opted for what we knew for a fast meal…

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          McDonald’s is not consistent though. A hamburger can often be flimsy thin. I don’t get why you’d go there. There are enough fast food options with lower prices. McDonald’s is often really terrible.

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            I always had a close restaurant nearby. I did try KFC in London, and boy was that a terrible experience! Food was too salty and the place I bought it from was so freaking dirty. It was close to Waterloo station.

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          It’s fucking ridiculous that you’re downvoted for this. Consistency is why so many of these businesses succeed!

          You can go to McDonald’s practically anywhere in the world and not be surprised by what you get. That’s a really fucking hard problem to solve, especially when suppliers aren’t obviously the same worldwide.

          It’s why people go to Starbucks. You can go anywhere and get a coffee that isn’t the best, but is consistent and somewhat enjoyable, over trying the local barista that might use some fancy coffee you might not like, or charge a ton for a thimble of coffee that barely wakes you up/is like liquid crack.

          There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting something that is familiar.

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            I can understand if other people had different experiences with McD: in the same trip I tried to buy KFC: in London to be precise, and it was the worst experience ever. The food was salty, and the place was so freaking dirty, loud and unpleasant. Still I find McD the most consistent fast food choice. That, and maybe Burger King.

            I’ll be visiting Japan next year. My opinion may change after that.

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    I feel like lately fast food has lost its appeal.

    It isn’t that fast any more, the service has gone done hill (habbitually checking orders now, because they’re often wrong) and the prices are a joke.