• lemmylommy@lemmy.world
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      Here is Germany it’s a bit more complicated:

      We have a tax id that never changes and is assigned to every person at birth. It’s used for tax purposes. There was some opposition against it due to the centralized and permanent nature, so politicians are careful not to openly use it for other purposes. Behind the scenes it is on the way to become a universal id number for most government databases.

      Then there is the tax number, which contains a number of the tax office in your region, so if you move you get a new one. Businesses also get them. This was the old system, which is still in use today.

      Health insurance and pension have their own number schemes.

      For identification with private parties (like banks) you use your id or passport, which have their own numbers. Owning either an id card or a passport is mandatory.

      • IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world
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        Sounds like our SSN is similar to your tax id. It’s assigned at birth and never changes.

        The real problem is that for decades virtually every company and other entity that needed to uniquely identify a person used your SSN as well, despite the federal government saying it shouldn’t be used that way. For whatever reason they never enforced that, but just said “pretty please”… So now virtually everything from taxes to library books to bank accounts to utility bills are tied to our SSNs.

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        Similar to the Netherlands. We have a Citizen Service Number, which is used for government stuff (taxes, welfare, etc), employment, banking and loans and related things that require you to prove you’re you.

        For most other things, they write the document number of your official ID, which is not personal info, but very easily traced back to you by the police if you, say, don’t pay for your hotel room.

        • Difference is though that random companies aren’t allowed to use your number (unless for employment purposes). It’s also just the identifier to your person, not identification. So providing this number is not enough to prove that you are you, by law at least. Additional identification such as your id are required.

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          Here in Romania we have a CNP (personal numeric code). It’s assigned at birth and is explicitly a unique identifying number for each citizen. We must have a valid ID card with that number on us at all times.

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      German here. We have a social security number which just serves its original purpose of identifying you for social security.
      We have a tax number for taxes.
      And we have a national ID card for most other purposes where you’d need to identify yourself.
      It even comes with a neat feature where you can use it for online identification and it only reveals just as much information as needed (like are you over 18 or not).

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        It even comes with a neat feature where you can use it for online identification and it only reveals just as much information as needed (like are you over 18 or not).

        That is neat, we need that

    • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      If I understand it correctly, a number uniquely identifying a human, then in Slovakia that would be “rodné číslo” - “birth number”.

      E.g.:
      891117/1236
      Which is YYMMDD/(that day’s sequential number of birth)(checksum digit)

      For women the month (MM) has 50 added to it.

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      it was not the initial intent to be a multipurpose national id number, but it turned out to be that way because states rights and stuff