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I’ll be looking for work in about 3 months and my hard line is wfh.
I will never work in an office with people again.
I totally get it. Good luck though, make sure you find a landing space first. WFH jobs are decreasing and are getting much more competitive. They’re also, unfortunately, prone to be suddenly or slowly shifted to in-office positions. Trying to work a mandatory period of WFH into your contract might be useful, but that’ll be pretty difficult.
As long as you are very employable and in the right field you should be fine. Using “transitional WFH” as a way to entice workers is becoming more commonplace and employers are often not transparent about it.
A friend works in HR at a place that hires as “WFH” and doesn’t mention at any point that there is already a timeline in place for two days in office after six weeks and then full time in office after three months. It’s not stipulated anywhere, it’s a “new policy” that comes down… on the same timeline… for every new employee. Lol
thanks for the heads up and I’ll definitely will keep that in mind when I’m looking.
If I can’t find wfh work, I’ll focus my efforts on building/supporting software developer unions while working construction. rather be outside and be miserable than inside and miserable.
Preach!
How about crustaceans?
only Mr Krabs, and as long as that damned sponge isn’t around.
well I’m unemployed and fucked
Time to fire half the workforce.
Before you do that… I have a better idea
This is how they cull us now. Make us quit.
The most important lesson I have learned throughout my career is that large corporations are not worth working for. Too much “HR” interference.
The best work environments I have ever been a part of is when I worked for smaller businesses that were still made up of actual people and not nameless/faceless/soulless “corporate HR departments”, who’s sole purpose is to “make corpo more money no matter the means”.
I’d say it depends on what you want from a job. I’ve mostly been able to do nothing 90% of the time and still make good money. That 10% earns my share because it’s often brutally stressful. But I can hide amongst the bureaucracy.
lmaoooo Murica is just 10 companies in a trenchcoat pretending to be a country
More like “sales teams are the reason middle managers think ALL employees slack off when not watched.”
I get that sales is a SUPER depressing culture, a ridiculously antiquated work environment, and full of some utterly soul-sucking mandates from above, but I have never seen, in any workplace, a team that needs someone constantly riding herd on them like the sales team.
Every place I’ve worked, every place that a place I’ve worked has had as a client, and every business I’ve ever visited had the same problem – sales people are largely unmotivated because their job has a much higher chance to SUCK OUT LOUD than most of the other jobs at a given company.
When five figure quarterly bonuses, daily friendly team competitions for gift cards, more paid-for-by-the-company outings than the c suites get and pickle ball on company time twice a week aren’t enough to hype people up to do their actual job, something is really fucking wrong with the job expectations.
I’m beginning to think companies are doing this to get people to leave by themselves
Damn, you know it’s bad when Dell is laying off a ton of people through policy.
Funny how all of these companies have the same policy regarding returning to work, despite the fact that a dozen or so studies exist that prove empirically that employee productivity increased during the WFH era.
Real estate investments and oil production are the only American dream. Productivity doesn’t mean shit if oil stops flowing or real estate values evaporate. The ruling class doesn’t care if you finished your excel spreadsheet by 4pm.
I question those studies. It’s way easier to get someone’s attention in office than emailing them 3-4x. Additionally teamwork definitely increases when you work face to face at least sometimes.
Don’t email 3-4x. Just write a chat message and send ab VC invite. Works immediately in 90% of all cases and allows direct communication without disturbing all the coworkers around you in an office.
I agree to an extent, but while I’m not going to speak for everyone as my situation is unique, my role is as an individual contributor, and my role requires absolutely 0 teamwork. I have a set of tasks that need to be done by EOD, and so does the rest of my team. We don’t collaborate at all. When we were in office, the only benefit was we all sat together, so you could ask a team member for assistance if you got stuck on a unique issue.
During Covid, they redid our office. There are no assigned seats anymore. So when they do ask us to come in, I work at a random desk by myself. It’s absolutely stupid. I’m wasting gas and time driving to the office just to make an appearance to stroke management’s ego so they can physically see me in person.
I agree but only if your team is in the same office. Nowadays people are working with teams based around the world and if your entire team is working remotely then there’s not much point to being in the office.
There has been enough study on the subject that for jobs that lend themselves to the work from home model, it absolutely does increase productivity.
I do think there should be an option to work in office for those who can’t work from home for personal reasons.
While that’s currently true, I’m extremely curious to see the trends after 10-20 years. Does it stay productive or do problems start cropping up. My current job is strongly requested to be in-person once per week, but otherwise WFH. The occasional in-office definitely helps new hires and such, and I would not be surprised if jobs start moving towards a “wfh except once per week (or two weeks)” ordeal.
WFH was a £6.6k tax free bonus a year for me.
I hope it never ends
Sales Team tells Dell to return to Linkedin?
Is there a way to rank tech companies on how shitty they are? I’d love some kind of directory of companies and all the cunty things they have done in the last few years - like uncov but for established companies.
Unironically how I live my life
Because making calls and using a computer requires a specific lacale…
Quite right too. The most important factor for me when buying a computer is that the sales droid is in an office. All those CPU, RAM and disk numbers are secondary to that.
I just buy whichever one is called “gamer computer” and has the prettiest LED lights on the case. Thats how you know it’s the good shit!
You want xenon lights, thats the heavy duty standard.
Pretty LEDs make it go faster. Everyone knows that.
I know this was a facetious comment but it reminds me of the time Kingston stuck 75 leds in an SSD and it got so hot the computer wouldn’t even boot. There is a video.
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On a serious note, why?
They would ask you to return to the ashes if the office burnt down.
I used to work for a major business outsourcer. One of their contingency plans in case an office burned down or had to be evacuated was literally to make everybody work in another office 50 miles away.
It was so bad that they weren’t even willing to reimburse travel costs. It was either get there or be fired.
And in an unlikely turn of fate, the backup office burned down too.
It just might
