The claim that there’s so much hate and vitriol on the left and not among MAGA people is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard. That’s not even remotely close to my experience on platforms like Twitter and reddit.
Oh there’s plenty of hate on both sides, but in my experience, the hate I get from the Left is much more personal. The right just thinks everyone is an idiot. The left gets up and personal when they insult tho. Not cool.
I’ve had people on Lemmy who’ve followed me to other instances and other conversations just to downvote me, all because I didn’t vote for Harris. The Right doesn’t seem to put in that much effort it. lol
Just my personal experience, and of the guy in this news article, so YMMV.
Hopefully, now that the election is over, the venom and rhetoric can quiet down a little and people can start working together and not be so judgemental.
Both sides need to work on that, in my opinion.
You seem to be having difficulty determining who has self identified as an enemy to your rights.
I agree; your mileage will absolutely vary, and unfortunately, likely be truncated by the very people you’re apparently acting as an apologist for.
I’m not acting as an apologist for anyone. Just because I disagree with you or have a different point of view does not mean I am being an apologist for people.
No the left has people who will verbally insult you better because you’re threatening their right.
That’s not hate. There is very little hate on the left, most of it is anger from having to survive.
No the left has people who will verbally insult you better because you’re threatening their right.
But I’m not threatening their rights, that’s my point.
Lol voting for Trump you are
But I didn’t vote for Trump. What gave you that impression? I’ve never voted for Trump and I never would.
The insults I get from right wingers tend to be things like “fuck you libtard pussy” while the worst from leftists is something like “I guess you love genocide”.
And maybe this is where we disagree, but I think the “fuck you libtard pussy” insult is way less severe than the “I guess you love genocide.”
The fuck you comment is just dismissive and they move on.
But the genocide mark is implying that you love something you don’t, and they are trying to trap you, guilt you, mock you, and make you feel like shit about your life and your choices.
Right insulters just want to ignore you and want you to go away.
Left insulters definitely don’t like to move on. They want you to fucking hate yourself. That’s the difference I see.
For the record, tho, I didn’t bow down to either side’s insults. I was proud to vote Socialist party before election day (early mail-in!), and still proud after the election. :)
And I STILL get DM’s that say I am working for Russia and getting paid in rubles and that I want to destroy America. Even tho the election is over. Just because I voted third party. (Hi, poopernickel, I’m still not in russia, still not gonna vote for your party, and I’m still around!)
Still whining about the accurate DM I sent a week ago I see.
I’m not whining. I’m actually glad that people know that you think I’m getting paid by the russians to post. It wasn’t just in DM’s, you said it all over c/poltics in .world. Which got removed for breaking community rules.
And I’m glad that people know that you wrote a program to track me on Lemmy and then offered it to others.
All because I voted for a Socialist third-party in the election. Which I still stand by.
The election is over, friend. You can stop thinking that every poster you don’t like is being paid by the russians, and then then track them with your little program. It’s wierd.
Conservatives have also in my experience been way more likely to say mildly veiled death threats, if that means anything to you.
At least the “guess you love genocide” is an attempt to persuade you about a political topic. It has absolutely nothing to do with “want you to hate yourself”. The “libtard” shit is precisely the topic here - just plain hate.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on that.
I don’t have to agree to anything, but okay. You could come up with some reasons why you feel that death threats, slurs and insults are less hateful.
It’s also notable that the “fuck you libtard” type of response is far more common than the “you love genocide”. A small handful of leftists act like that. Much more common is moderate left/US liberal people who politely engage in conversation. You can see that all over Lemmy and Reddit. Meanwhile, try going to Reddit’s /r conservative and criticize Trump, or even just repeat things he’s said that make him look bad. You’ll get insulted and banned quickly.
US liberals look down on certain groups for features they could change - being sexist, ignorant, violent, you know, typical hardcore Trump supporters. Hardcore Trump supporters look down on people for things they can’t change - being non-white, poor, or a woman.
I mean, just read the posts on /r/conservative or /r/conspiracy. Check out the racism and hatred of women, the poor and immigrants among those communities. Saying US liberals are hateful compared to MAGA people is perhaps one of the most absurd things anyone has ever told me.
You’ll get insulted and banned quickly.
Which was happening on Lemmy pre-election. A lot.
But you’re right, you don’t have to agree with me on anything. And I don’t have to agree with you on anything. I have received more hate from liberals on Lemmy than I have from conservatives. And they were more hateful.
My personal experience. And that doesn’t match your personal experience.
Fuck you and your spam
It’s not spam. It’s one article I’ve posted here on this instance today and it got copied over to one other instance. Not everyone has access to every instance. So that doesn’t really count as spam.
Also, the article matches the title, even tho you may have tried to report it for spam by mentioning that the video had nothing to do with the article.
But it’s not a video article, it’s an article for reading. I don’t play the videos.
Block them, the MAGAs can yell into the void.
Tho I do agree with your idea of blocking, I just want to make it clear that I’m not MAGA. I’m not sure you meant that you thought I’m MAGA, but I wanted to just make that clear to any others who may be confused. I never have been MAGA, never would be.
I voted Socialist.
But yes, if more people just blocked posters they don’t want to hear from, rather than insulting and going back-and-forth, I think it would be good for everyone long-term.
It certainly would be good for your campaigns wouldn’t it? No more pesky bannings for trolling and sealioning
Except I don’t troll or sealion. I just post things you don’t like. In which case, the blocking feature would work really well. In fact, you told you me were gonna block me.
I know you worked really hard to get me banned across all instances, but not all admins/mods have the same definitions as you do.
The admins on my other instances are well aware of my record on .world. And I have never hidden my name nor my history when I applied to new instances.
For the record, I was right over in .world. The news articles I posted of polls were showing that Trump was gaining in the polls. And they correctly predicted that Trump would win.
And me saying I was voting third party (I voted Socialist, and always said I would) didn’t affect the outcome at all. That’s how big of a margin Trump won. So I stand by everything I did and said over there.
And you were one of the people who accused me of being paid by the russians. And that I would disappear after the election. And remember how you said I’m being paid in rubles and that my “usefulness” would end? And remember when you thought I was part of some trolling conspiracy and was in cahoots with linkerbaan?
Also, just so everyone in this thread knows, you also wrote a program to track me on Lemmy and then proudly publically offered it to other people so they could track me so everyone could post my stats after every comment or post I would make.
Which is fine, that information is public, but to create a program or bot specifically to track me is weird. Since I did nothing to interfere or affect the election in any way, shape, or form.
So rather than tracking me, you probably should just block me, because I’m not going anywhere.
Thanks!
So why spread this obvious propaganda from one of the worst news sources in the world?
It’s not propaganda. I thought it was interesting. And I like the Daily Mail.
And I’m not “spreading” it anywhere. The Daily Mail as a much much larger audience that Lemmy. Lemmy is way too small to be accused of spreading anything.
I wouldn’t have ever seen this article if you didn’t post it here. And yes, it’s propaganda. Republican media outlets and politicians have been trying to push this concept prior to and following the election. When they come up with some idea like this, “I was a Democrat who switched to maga because maga is so great and democrats are MEAN to me”, and organize to push it in traditional and social media to manipulate people, that’s what propaganda is.
And yes, it’s propaganda.
So is anything that pro-republican going to be seen as “propaganda” by you? Are all the pro-Harris articles and pro democrat articles, “propaganda” as well?
I didn’t write the article. It was about a gay guy who decided to vote Republican, after being a Democrat for a while.
Lemmy is a community where people post things that they find interesting. I thought the article was interesting. So I posted it. That’s all there is to it. It’s not some grand scheme on my part.
I totally respect your right not to like it or this community.
Lol @ OP
I’m not sure what that means. Care to elaborate?
I feel the same way he does when it comes to insults I have received for not voting for Harris. The grief and hate I got was way worse from Dems than Republicans (I didn’t vote Trump either), especially here on Lemmy.
From the article:
But his initial revelation did receive some backlash.
‘You are a dumba**,’ one X user wrote.
Conservatives, he said, were more tolerant.
Bach wrote: 'I’ve never experienced such overwhelming kindness, understanding, and encouragement as I have from supporters of President Trump in the past 24 hours.
‘And I’ve never faced such vicious personal attacks, name-calling, and insults—intended to wound, shame, and silence—as I have from Leftists in the same time frame.’
So you don’t like insults but voted for the guy that called Mexicans rapists and claimed immigrants eat cats and dogs? No wonder people are insulting you.
Do you mean me personally? Or the guy in the article?
Because to clarify if you meant me personally: I didn’t vote for Trump. Never have. Never would.
People were insulting me because I voted Socialist. So third party. So Dems hated me AND MAGA repubs hated me. Both sides were pissed off at me because I wasn’t voting for their person. lol
Which as we now know after the election results, didn’t affect the outcome at all. Because even if every single person who voted third party, would have voted for Harris instead, she still would have lost. That’s how big the margin of loss was.
If Bernie would have ran, I would have voted for him tho.
