Honestly, I’m not mad, its just funny how state/corporate sponsored violence is all okay but a pleb making a joke (its not even a real threat c’mon) is not okay.

🤭

Delay, Deny, Depose. Remember, Remember the 4th of December.

  • Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    944·
    6 days ago

    Wasn’t the entire point of moving to the Fediverse that we can easily switch instances if one goes bad?

    Why are people still on .world lmao

    • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 days ago

      Because it’s no big loss if we end up getting banned, so as another commenter said. Laziness

      And unless mods are being massive weirdos by checking how we’re behaving in the comment sections of other instance’s communities, then it’s even less likely we’ll be banned anyway.

      So for now, I do nothing.

      And express my total non-sadness at this CEO’s, and probably many other CEO’s deaths.

      I’m not for the death penalty, but they sure as hell deserve it.

    • TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
      2·
      3 days ago

      The problem is communities congregate where they are the largest. You can move yourself off of lemmy.world, but you can’t move your community off of lemmy.world. You could make communities less dependent on the host they are on or any given moderator group, but Lemmy’s design is not that. So you can sever yourself off of it, and now you are left the option of joining far smaller and less active alternative communities.

      I don’t believe it would be that hard to make a lemmy style federation where if your host or their moderator groups ban you, other hosts could still see you. That used to be the case with kbin, people could comment in communities based on instances that had banned them, even if those comments would only be seen in kbin. It was easily exploitable, because it bypassed moderation controls for the home instance and would really have required moderation group for that instance, but it could be done.

      Imagine having links to communities like, https://lemm.ee/c/[email protected] ,but being capable of specifying a different moderator group / messaging handler dispatcher (or whatever the component in charge within an instance of determining which comments to inform users of is called) from another instance like, https://lemm.ee/c/[email protected]:lemm.ee , that would just default to the official if there wasn’t any instance local group in charge. But that would cause so much drama because these positions attract control freaks.

    • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      5 days ago

      Why are people still on .world lmao

      Few reasons:

      1. I joined when it was one of the smaller instances

      2. Laziness

      3. Currently looking to move

    • Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world
      10·
      5 days ago

      The fediverse will be at its greatest when communities can seamlessly switch instances. As seen from the minimal Reddit user migration, users won’t switch as much as necessary to affect real change.

    • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      2·
      4 days ago

      It’s a dumb argument because unless you’re willing to lie to moderators with different usernames to trick them into not knowing who you are (ban evasion) being banned on one shitty instance locks you out of it and any communities it has. Lemmy.world has many of the bigger ones, lemmy.ml too.
      Moving on isn’t as easy as people make it seem. This is one of those Fediverse lies that people regurgitate ad-nauseam.

      The truth is that bigger instances, or instances holding bigger communities hold a larger slice of the pie, and unless you forcefully remove people from the instances, or remove the instances from the people, they cannot be replaced. You can’t start your own instance and communities to replace the big ones at the top. Your new one will occupy less of the pie.

      Looking at the communities tab can give you an idea of which ones they are

      Community Tab screenshot

      ​

      The instances which hold these positions hold control, and they can’t be as easily replaced or bypassed. So “Just move to another server” doesn’t work unless you’re encouraging ban evasion, which most people are not. They can make a real impact on your experience in the Fediverse, and trying to deny that fact is disingenuous and misinformation, because they absolutely do hold control here. They are the ones who’s actions make a difference, especially because they cannot be replaced easily.

    • Optional@lemmy.world
      102·
      6 days ago

      The large user base, and a couple of communities who don’t care about current events. But it’s not an admin thing anyway so - ? Does it really matter what instance it’s on?

      I dont’ know what community that was in, but if it was one of the usual suspects, I’d say move to a different community. Not sure what .world has to do with it since it wasn’t an admin thing, just some mod being mod. !Politics, I assume?

      • granolabar@kbin.melroy.org
        102·
        5 days ago

        mods on politcs and news are neo lib acolytes, they mode for the ruling class while pretending to be one of us lol

  • inlandempire@jlai.lu
    706·
    6 days ago

    If one protects CEOs aren’t they the one advocating violence against the common people?

  • Maalus@lemmy.world
    295·
    5 days ago

    You literally did what you were banned for and then pulled a “in Minecraft” with this post.

  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
    403·
    6 days ago

    I think World just need to accept that they’re pissing into the wind at this point, I’ve never seen a platform so united on something.

  • BigDiction@lemmy.world
    219·
    5 days ago

    People who complain about moderation on this platform tend to be really obnoxious.

    Case in point OP screenshotting a Royal ‘we’ advocating murdering people in a job description with no other criteria and a couple generic emojis to boot.

    Relative to the volume of content and platform tools available please just communicate responsibly. There is an objective standard for advocating for future violence and OPs comment clearly meets that.

  • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    1420·
    5 days ago

    I got banned from world for similar. Also got banned for stating a fact: democrat joe Lieberman single-handedly killed the single payer option during the passage of obamacare/aca.

    The libs can’t cope.

    Edit for the libs:

    A senator from Connecticut, the insurance capital of the world, became the industry’s go-to guy. Insurers had spent years investing in Sen. Joe Lieberman, a former Democrat-turned-Independent. During the reform debate, the watchdog group Public Campaign Action Fund, (now called EveryVoice), called Lieberman an “insurance puppet,”noting that insurers had contributed nearly half a million dollars to his campaigns over the years.

    The Democrats needed Lieberman’s vote to get reform passed, and insurers knew it. Shortly before the Senate was set to vote on the bill, Lieberman said he would vote for the bill only if the public option was stripped out.

    Cope and seethe libs. Your electoralism and ability to be easily fooled by the DNC’s lies but but republicans! have led us to this mess. And yes, it goes without saying the republicans are no better. But who needs enemies when one has backstabbing democrats for friends? But if we vote harder we’ll have the votes! no, you fucking won’t. Another fucking patsy will make sure to torpedo any kind of progressive legislation, anything to the left of neoliberalism. See Manchin, Sinema, and the fucking senate parliamentarian for examples.

    • granolabar@kbin.melroy.org
      104·
      5 days ago

      democrat joe Lieberman single-handedly killed the single payer option during the passage of obamacare/aca.

      Neo lib acolytes hate this fact lol

      ACA is how we ended up here… private health insurance it not the solution. Full stop.

      I see the right is trying to blame doctors and left wants to water down call for single payer/medicare for all.

      Socials are starting to get suppressed too. Go to press on.

      .world news modding is fucking pathetic… imagine fucking the working class this hard. disgusting.

      • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        63·
        5 days ago

        They really do. Dude was senator of CT and bought and paid for by the insurance companies, many of whom have headquarters there (at least at the time).

        Lemmy.world mods are a bunch of fucking libs. Say anything truly leftist and you’ll get a ban.

    • starman2112
      55·
      5 days ago

      Yeah, it would have been a lot better if leftists people simply hadn’t voted in the first place. Having a Republican in his seat instead would surely have improved things

        • starman2112
          5·
          5 days ago

          Genuinely curious what you think they should have done differently. You said that voting got us into this mess, but also that it wouldn’t have changed anything. What should they do?

          I mean, violent revolution is the answer, but that isn’t mutually exclusive to voting

          • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            31·
            5 days ago

            I’m saying electoralism does not work. And Americans won’t unify their labor power. Stochastic terrorism it is.

  • lurch (he/him)
    822·
    6 days ago

    neglected assistance is slightly different from violence though.

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      20·
      6 days ago

      But insurance is supposed to payout when an insured person needs it. The only claims they should deny are fraudulent claims. There is an agreement, so neglecting the agreement is still liability.

      Like a home care worker being employed and assigned to an elderly person, then decide to go on an hour phone call and not making sure the elderly person doesn’t like fall down or anything, then they finish their hour-long phone call and find that the person they were supposed to be taking care of have fallen down the stairs. Like the home care worker didn’t cause them to die, but its practically the same. There’s probably lawsuits and probably also criminal charges.

      But in the CEO situation, the ananlogy would be more like the elderly person ask you to help them walk, and you just refuse to do your job, then they fall down the stairs and you don’t even call an ambulance while watching them die. That’s essentially what the healthcare executives are doing. They are neglecing to provide the service they agreed to while taking premiums. That should be criminal.

      • lurch (he/him)
        320·
        6 days ago

        yeah, i’m not saying it’s not criminal and bad behavior, but it’s not violence. (it was called violence in the OP)

        • inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          222·
          6 days ago

          Denying healthcare is violence. Just because there’s layers of paper pushers in between the patient and the corporation denying care doesn’t change things.

          Engels said it best:

          When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains.

        • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          8·
          6 days ago

          Perspective can definitely change when one experiences needless suffering or death, or watches a loved one go through that

        • Optional@lemmy.world
          6·
          6 days ago

          “violence” comes from “violation” which we can agree is the case when unethical insurance providers deny doctor-recommended treatment.