• SabMayaHai@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Other than just trying to get everything to fit, is there a reason why the x-axis labels are split between top and bottom?

    • realitista@lemm.eeOP
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      You think that you are going to change the behavior of tens of thousands of voters by bitching about it? If you want to change how they vote, do something about it.

      If someone’s still protest voting in this situation, it indicates issues with the candidates rather than the voters.

      Kamala’s refusal to address the Israeli Genocide and the fact that she was the second candidate forced on the people by the party in an undemocratic way were the main reasons IMO. She was not a popular candidate in 2020, it was surprising she did as well as she did TBH.

      They both may be political necessities for some reason but I believe that’s why the dems lost. Also sadly, I don’t think a black woman had any hope of siphoning off any potential Trump voters.

      None of this would have happened if the DNC had allowed Sanders to win in 2016 instead of stealing the primaries with superdelegates. Nobody ever polled better against Trump than Sanders. In 2020 or 2016. But instead of letting him mop the floor with Trump. they fought him tooth and nail and even rigged the primaries against him.

      You reap what you sow.

      As someone who’s protest voted in a strongly blue state for years and who voted Biden only as a vote against Trump, I can’t say I support protest voting when democracy itself is on the line, but I can understand the motivation behind it.

      • timbuck2themoon
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        Jfc not this again. The field was open in 2020 and Bernie lost. 2016 you had a point but he LOST in 2020 to Biden. It’s no one’s responsibility to “let him win.” It’s voters’ responsibility to vote him as the candidate. They didn’t.

        Signed, a Bernie voter who got off their ass in 2020 to vote for him.

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          Sorry, I meant more in 2016 where the DNC stole the primary with superdelegates (edited my original post to reflect rhis), though in 2020 they also systematically stole delegates from him.

          The reason they lost twice to Trump all come down to these choices. If they had let Bernie win, Trump would be dead and buried. They dug their own grave.

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      4 days ago

      That’s the margin the Dems have in big cities. But unlike all the states where you have cities, their suburbs, and the rural space between, DC is nothing but urban center.

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      1. DC is small. Not quite Vatican small, but DC is essentially entirely urban. Urban areas are democratic.

      2. DC is not a state. They don’t get any representation in Congress because of this. Democrats are the politicians promising to try and get DC a seat in Congress so that they may be represented. They passed a strange bill that allowed DC to have Shadow Congresspeople who vote in Congress, but their votes don’t get counted for anything. Republicans do not want DC to have any representation.

      3. This may be anecdotal from being a local and speaking with people from DC, but there’s a general idea that DC and the surrounding NoVa and MD areas are taken care of very well by the federal government. No president or congressman wants to work and live in an area surrounded by crime, homelessness, and crumbling infrastructure, or else they might feel bad. Democratic leaders tend to push for legislature and infrastructure that supports the local community, while Republican leaders have historically shown a mindset of “Fuck everybody else here” and not supported the local community. Reagan flooded DC streets with Contra crack to get rid of “degenerate blacks” in the community. On the flip side, Clinton and Obama fought for DC to get state rights to be represented in the government.

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    Keep crying lemmy. Trump won the popular vote. In any reasonable democracy he should become the president.

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        … and Gore in 2000.

        In the incredibly unlikely event that a GOP nominee won the popular but lost the electoral college, Republicans would HOWL

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      People are upset because you are or are coming across as a Trump supporter but what you’re saying is exactly right and is one of the problems with democracy.

      Democracy sucks when it’s the dictatorship of the majority and it’s even worse when it’s the dictatorship of the minority (i.e. due to non-voters) and that’s what democracy has become.

      It’d be grand if elected officials were representative of everyone, not just their voters (really: their funders), or if we didn’t need elected representatives at all.

      American democracy is a few steps removed from the ideal democracy and that itself is removed from ideal governance. To get ahead of questions: yes I’m advocating for self governance, consensus building, free association, and other aspects of left-anarchism

    • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
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      eyup. would have been a heck of a lot better if folks took this more seriously when deciding to vote and for who. Still. Rank choice voting would have fixed this pretty good.