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    In reality you are just addicted to making money so what you are saying is “I do drugs and so should everyone”

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    Only 13% of adults in India have attainted tertiary education vs 17% in China, and 50% in the U.S. Explains where the bulk of productivity is in those countries, hard and blue collar labor. So this explains this guy’s pov, he basically wants to exploit labor as hard as possible.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/232951/university-degree-attainment-by-country/

    Republicans want to create that kind of system here in the U.S. because they’re convinced that you don’t need an educated population to maintain US GDP supremacy, completely neglecting that the bulk of US services are centered around work that’s not hard labor or blue collar related. Even if the U.S. makes a transition to blue collar or hard labor work in the next decade, it will never attain the same kind of productivity as India and China in this respect because of the different cultural make up of these respective countries…unless, there’s a brain drain and people who want a higher quality of life abandon ship to a non-factory country.

    But importantly, the reason China and India have that kind of GDP output given their respective focus in the first place is precisely because the U.S. focuses its attention on financial and technical innovation. So if everyone shifts to pushing hard labor, then what happens? Someone’s going to have to pick up the slack, and it’s likely going to be the EU unless Russia steam rolls over them.

    The way nations and their leaders decide to do things is interesting, often to the detriment of sane long term investments.

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    if it took him 91 hours a week to do his job, they probably should have let him go.

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      No see you don’t get it. He gets the grind.

      /s

      God I was going to try to give some dumb response… but honestly the best I’ve got is-

      —I work more hours so I can make more money so I can do more cocaine, so I can work more hours……

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    I am even more disappointed by that guy’s choice to work only 6 days a week.

    I do not believe in sleep or rest.

    I firmly believe that CEOs require diapers, not toilet breaks.

    I used to shit myself continuously at the office, the stench was unbearable. And yet I went on, staying at my desk, asking people to come in to berate them.

    I chose to be estranged by my whole family. My kids hate me. My wife despises me. My father won’t talk to me. Even my mother loathes me.

    I managed all that by dedicating every second of my life to my job, so that I can die miserably and get a gravestone saying ‘lmao the shitman’s dead, rest in shit loser’.

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      Amateur! I haven’t stood up in so long my leg muscles have atrophied. Slowly my body has fused with my office chair. I only take 10 min micro naps as my body periodically shuts down, a weakest of my flesh. Never leaving the office, I occupy one entire floor of the building as my productivity lair. This floor has been secretly hidden from everyone else to avoid distractions. I only enter other floors when most employees are gone for the day, usually late at night. I make these excursions to double check my coworkers daily progress or scavenge for food.

      Most of my coworkers seem to fear me, perhaps I’ve become something of myth? They gave me a name, because I heard one scream “the Chairman is real!” as I startled him. He was working late that night as I creeped around his cubicle wall. Since I was famished, I quickly knocked him out with a keyboard and dragged him back to my lair for a quick power lunch.

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    I hated working with a team in India because of their insane work expectations. I’d be online in the morning my time, knowing it’s basically the middle of the night for them. I’d say things weren’t a high priority but they’d still stay online and finish it that day (that sort of stuff). Then they’d basically work first thing when they woke up as well. It was really frustrating in a weird way. I shouldn’t have to resist communicating with a coworker because I suspect they’re going to ruin their work life balance to do something I ask them to (even when I make it clear it’s a low priority). But I can’t just not communicate things that need to be done or ask questions I need answers to. It really sucked.

    Like imagine your friend is asleep and you’re at their house. You want some coffee at some point so you just shoot them a text message asking where it is in the kitchen as you go back to bed to wait for them to wake up. Next thing they dart out of their room, groggy, apologizing for over sleeping, and begin making you a whole ass latte. Then imagine them doing stuff like this so often that you’re nervous to ask them to do things so they don’t drop everything to assist. Now imagine they’re a coworker so you must communicate tasks to them. That’s sort of what it felt like.

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      Don’t know if it would work in your scenario, but I will use Delayed Send on an email when I want to get my thoughts down right now but don’t want to bother the person I’m sending it to until a better time.

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      Lol, I have maybe a co-worker or two I feel that way about. Work in events so work-life balance gets rocked during peak busy times. It’s honestly just really hard to turn it off, cause everything needs to happen either 5 minutes ago or yesterday.

      Like, shindig being planned for 2030 but we need those details yesterday.

      I can emphasize. We work hard, bro, catch this email back on Monday. 😮‍💨😂

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    This isn’t that difficult if your only job is reading emails and giving one word replies like Yes, No, Proceed, or Delay

    Which is all the guys at that level do.

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      At my job we’ve learned that anyone above director level simply will not read beyond the first sentence of a fucking email. So we have to write them these orc-like one liner emails and pray they understand whatever it is the fuck they need to understand. They have zero nuance or patience. They just want to grunt and point.

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        They do notice bolded, red letters usually saying “PRODUCTION HALT”.
        So if the first email didn’t do the trick you double the CC list and sprinkle some color in the text. After that they’re on their own.

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    These people actually think this is impressive. To me, grind culture and anything like this mentality is a failing of human society. Living for no reason at all other than to be a cog in the economic machine. Rarely do they have hobbies or interests beyond “gettin’ that money, son”, and it’s even more rare they provide anything of major value to their community. Just the absolute worst.

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      The baffling thing is why, they have no time to enjoy the money. Money is a means to an end. “I want my kids to have a better life”, “I want to retire early” etc etc may be worth working yourself to the bone for, but in reality these are the same people that never see their kids and plan to work until they die.

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        i’m pretty convinced that there rich fuckheads just have some fundamental psychological unwellness, either inherent or brought upon them by their childhood.

        Take elon musk as the extreme example: clearly just not capable of being truly happy, he’s constantly seeking validation and no amount is ever actually enough to make him feel confident, richest person in the world buys twitter to remove the ability to express dislike towards him.

        And as a counterexample of what a mentally healthy rich person does: there’s a guy from my region who seems to have genuinely made his own wealth and he basically just lives like any other middle aged dude, normal house in a normal town and he goes to the grocery store every now and then, because that’s a pretty fucking sweet life when you don’t have to worry about money. Just sit on the porch eating cinnamon buns for the rest of your life, and spend some of that wealth and use your connections to get a frozen meal company to add pancakes to their product line.

        Now to be clear he’s not some shining beacon of morality, he’s just normal, and it’s wild how much of a contrast that makes to your average billionaire psychopath.

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          I think it’s what the Buddhists call suffering. There’s no end to wanting, especially not if you’re convinced that it can soothe your existential unease. I think that Elon and a bunch of the other billionaires are almost like gamblers or alcoholics, only they’re constantly trying to soothe that unease by chasing just one more zero or a little bit more power or control. Of course, the relief never comes, so they just keep digging, convinced that if they just get enough zeroes or control, they’ll finally feel some relief.

          Imo, this is distinct from the local millionaires. I’ve met some successful mid-size business owners who were pretty chill people. One I’m thinking of in particular mostly uses his money to help fill unmet needs in his community (I.E. local shithead ambulance companies refused to adequately cover the community because there wasn’t (enough) money in it for them, so he started his own, with blackjack and hookers, and everyone’s happy. The company just barely breaks even each year, the crews are well taken care of, and the community is very happy with the service provided). If you ran into the dude on the street, which has happened, you probably wouldn’t guess he was a millionaire. Meanwhile, you’d probably never run into the likes of Elon in the wild, because of his very valid concern of getting reincarnated.

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      Some people have no actual personality and latch on to some despicable one-dimensional trait. Like Trumpies.

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      The thing is, unless they do a completely unskilled job (as in neither mental nor physical actions that can fail when tired are required to do it) this is literally counter-productive to their employer as well.

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    It’s the classic I-suffered-so-everyone-else-should-suffer-to-keep-it-fair mentality.

    Ignoring the fact that we should work to reduce suffering for future generations.

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      And that it’s probably a lie, and even if it isn’t a lie he’s not doing it anymore.

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        He is counting all of his two hour lunches, his golfing/tennis/other sport activities that count as ‘networking’, spending hours harrassing his secretaries, and all of the other non-productive ‘work’ in his entirely fictitious work schedule.

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    Just to add more context, this shithead’s daughter is the wife of the British PM.

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    I used to work with a guy like this, they’d do six hours of work in twelve hours, were constantly having important business calls etc, and simply didn’t have a life outside of work.

    I’d be willing to bet this person was less productive than some executives that worked less than half the time.

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      That sort of thing was common at this shitty bank I used to work for. People would fart around and stretch out tasks just to spend more time in the office pretending to be at “work”.

      Performative nonsense that drove me bonkers. Especially when I wanted to finish up a task so I can go home, and they’re hanging out at my desk bending my ear with small talk.

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      Exactly. I worked with a few people like this. Claimed to work 7-8 basically. I would see them drop for a hour at a time several times a day, be unresponsive for hours, and hardly get anything accomplished, and when it was, it was either broken or poor quality.

      The brag isn’t what they think it is

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      I honestly feel like six hours of work in twelve hours is pretty good. I usually have about two hours of work a day. Rarely it will be a long grind stay on late to get things done day. It’s partially my own fault though since I could spread it out multiple days but it’s nice just logging in and fucking off the whole day since I finished my part the day before. I got a really good job where I’m not punished for getting things done early though. Once every month or two I’ll have a busy day like that and I have no issue joining a teams meeting with my boss the next day on my work computer to run through stuff with him while one of my personal computer monitors I’m playing a game on is plainly in view of the camera (L shaped desk). He knows he can count on me, I bust my ass when I need to, I’m generally available whenever, and if I tell him something is bullshit busy work he listens and runs interference when he can and when he can’t he sighs and says he knows and couldn’t stop it this time. I got pissed after spending 12 years at the same grind and it took me five different employers over the past six years to find a really great place to work. I’d follow my current boss anywhere he went and I’m fairly certain most of my 21 reports would feel the same about me. Their previous boss was apparently up their ass constantly. When I started I told them I don’t care what they do day to day as long as the work gets done and just add themselves to the calendar if they won’t be available at any point that day to reply to email or messages otherwise we’re all adults and I don’t care to babysit anyone just as much as I don’t care to be babysat. I also told them they aren’t required to work anything unless it comes through me. Apparently the teams productivity is through the roof compared to when I started almost two years ago but overall it’s very chill and folks seem happy.