He admitted he didn’t understand the science.
Neither do I. You know what we should do when we don’t understand the science?
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO DO!
The science is actually pretty straightforward, I taught it to my nephew because it’s a great way to understand thermodynamics, conservation of energy and a few other fundamentals.
I’m not talking about crunching numbers to calculate the total CO2 equivalent in the air or to model an ice shelf or to quantify the AMOC or something, but the fundamental issue and why it happens is easy enough to understand for the layman.
There’s a great video of Carl Sagan addressing congress(?) about climate change where he explains it concisely, if you’re interested.
…poetic, isn’t it?
Good. Shame he wasn’t in the house.
Putting the mad in Mad Max!
You don’t even have to investigate the science or anything. Just use your own brain and eyeballs.
I was looking at old family photos of when I was a child, under 10. It was snowing on Christmas Day. On multiple christmases.
I can’t even remember a time in the last 2 to 3 decades it’s snowed correctly in winter let alone December and bang on Christmas. Sometimes it snows in may.
Also when we keep getting record setting heatwaves in summer… hello?
The cult of do your own research managing to not do their own research in the slightest.
Damn straight. In Australia we have massive fires every fucking year. When I was a kid it might have been one or two per decade. I remember large flocks of birds flying overhead in mornings and afternoons - none of that happens now. Insect diversity has fallen. National Parks almost look like graveyards of previously thriving forest, it’s just depressing. In Victoria over half a national park just burnt out because rainfall has been low for 20 years and there just isn’t enough moisture around to stop fires from spreading rapidly. Shit’s fucked, and it’s going to get worse.
Most people (I hope, I don’t tune in too much) deny that the climate is changing. They just deny that human activity is causing it.
So they see all the wildfires and hurricanes and heatwaves and biodiversity collapse and coral bleaching and give a big shrug and “eh, whaddyagunnadoaboutit”
Maybe it’s exaggerated but I remember making a snowball as big as I was when I was a child (I was always taller than anyone else in my class, I am 197cm now).
I don’t remember the last time we had proper snow around christmas
In the early 90s I got stuck at my grandparents’ house for weeks. The snow was so deep that my dad was able to throw us off of a 15ft porch into the snow.
We dug tunnels all around the yard and built igloos.
Every year as a child I made snowmen. Every. Single. Year.
The snowman was standing from December to February.
My wife made a snowman with the kids, it was melted by the next afternoon.
Just use your own brain and eyeballs.
When I was coming up learning about the long slow path of climate change, it was “We have to act now, because by the time you can readily see the effects with your eyes, we’ll be fucked cause it’ll be too late by then.”
Whelp here we are. All we can do now is mitigate the damage however we can.
Such a shame.
Back in the 90s the though of the ozone hole in Australia being fixed seemed an impossibility to me but then it was solved with governments agreeing to ban CFCs etc
I thought perhaps we could fix the change in climate.
But then social media was birthed and destroy the minds of everyone starting the slow decline of society. Those with power able to utilise it for their own bidding. Putin et al.
Now the greedy are in such a position to ruin everything for short term gains.
Just use your own brain and eyeballs.
We’re going to need something a bit more robust than that I’m afraid. People who fall for conspiracy after conspiracy are using their own brain and eyeballs. Even schizophrenics use their own brain and eyeballs.
If someone’s childhood photos show snow-free Christmases, is that enough for them to declare climate change a hoax?
People need to understand the scientific method better. What a hypothesis is, the importance of falsifiability. There is no truth in the universe, you can’t determine what is true and what is false by looking inside yourself, or by trusting your gut. There is no truth. That is the universe we live in.
What I meant was people don’t even have to “believe” that science is a thing and climate change is a possibility or not. It just is.
By remembering back before there was multiple fires and storms per year.
I mean there is no scientific evidence of the existence of any God, it just doesn’t exist, and yet here we are.
I’m not trying to argue seriously here, just pointing out that you sure have a lot of faith in humanity when there is no evidence to show it is a species worth saving
“Even though you don’t understand the science”
I think that says so much more than any of the other garbage that spills out of his mouth
People that say “you don’t understand science” is like saying they don’t understand how science comes to its conclusions. It’s not political. It’s not personal. It’s what is found with an experiment. And then repeated.
The person doing those has motivations and personal stuff. Everyone does. To say someone manipulated the results based on that and everyone else that repeated the same damn method is baffling.
Trump said “I don’t think even Science knows” as if science is some institution or singular entity. They seriously think there some Big Science organization
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The science of how carbon dioxide in the air helps trap heat isn’t hard to understand or show in a small scale experiment.
It’s then not hard to understand how if it’s trapping heat, then things will get warmer overall and overall warmer things lead to things like ice melting.
It gets way more complex trying to model things like ice melt impacting ocean currents, but the basic understanding isn’t hard at all.
I fully agree with all of that but I don’t think that basic understanding is even important.
I go to the doctor when my body needs help. She spent years learning about how my body works and I trust her. Sure I do my own basic investigation first, but she has a holistic view and niche knowledge that I can never hope to compete with.
Climate scientists are saying that we’re destroying the careful balance? Righto. You know better than I do.
Also what’s the worst case scenario if they’re wrong? I get my energy from a source that is solar panels on my roof or some company that isn’t BP doing massive oil spills for pennies on the dollar or whatever and my country is energy secure?
OK then. Sounds good to me. 👍
Also what’s the worst case scenario if they’re wrong?
Long term, what you said sure… but short term, companies will collapse from the transition, jobs will be lost (even if they get replaced with green jobs), people will pay more from carbon taxes or other similar mechanisms, people will be forced to buy EVs that have in many cases become political, and actually are suitable for the vast majority of people today, if not EVs then were taking away cars to build public transportation which is taking ‘freedom’ away.
It’s not a simple thing to do what we need to do to solve the problem, it involves self sacrifice, and that’s something so many people are incapable of. See covid masking.
It’s easier to believe the scientists are lying to us and it’s a big conspiracy.
I’m guessing there is a decent amount of overlap between the demographic that denies climate science and the demographic that denies medical science (antivaxx, the former anti-mask mandate group, etc)
This is thing about these idiot podcasters … they are our modern day snake oil salesmen and religious evangelists on a soap box in the town square. They know how to talk, how to manage a crowd and how to direct, misdirect or massage people’s modes. They have no affiliations other than making money or separating the masses from their money. They’re salesmen that will say anything to keep your attention because it’s your attention that makes them money.
Andrew Huberman is such a snake and people think he’s legit.
Yeah I listened to him for a bit, than I realised that he is attempting to translate studies done on mice to lifestyle advice. Sounds plausible if you don’t know how science works, but it’s real snake oil.
And those supplements and stuff he hawks. I realize podcasts are advertising dependent but sheesh.
Why is he a snake?
Serial cheater, his “lab” is a lie, he said young people don’t need a COVID vaccine, and he shills for a number of really dubious products. He’s basically Dr. Oz.
https://slate.com/technology/2024/03/andrew-huberman-huberman-lab-health-advice-podcast-debunk.html
I read/skimmed the first 2 because they really went on. They seem to be reaching hard. A whole lot of flowery language to evoke an emotional response of unease. If they had anything real they would have gotten to the point. The only thing that was concrete (that I saw) was he said a study was on humans when it was on rats. Testing on rats is common and he could have misremembered.
*I did a ctrl+f on “Sarah” (his partner) and it comes up 56 times. Sure whatever form of cheating is bad, but this is the exact emotional stuff they went for. That’s the kind of article it is. Fifty six times.
Joe was just worried Mel would see him staring and ask what he was looking at, sugartits?
Oh Joe, you claiming anybody doesn’t understand the science is actually the funniest thing you may ever say.
It’s an old meme, but it mostly still works…
Yep he’s only ever funny when he’s not trying to be/doesn’t realize he’s being funny 🤣
You’re clearly doing the wrong research.
Peer-reviewed, schmeer-peepood, meh.
Argument is that if you are not a scientist, you are “stupid/gullible” to believe in science. Greenhouse gases impact on temperature is as certain as gravity, and a spherical earth. Actual greenhouses can be warmed with CO2.
Forest fire management is something that requires more resources whether or not goal is to destroy human sustainability, or just adapt to our current warming. Insurance savings pay for it.
Maybe ivermectin will cure his burned down house.
Well Mel probably thinks it’s a Jewish conspiracy that his house burnt down or something. One too many shrimps on the barbie, eh?
What had happened was, his house got Space lazered.
Don’t try to pin this on us. He wasn’t a crazy racist until he moved to the US of A.
Isn’t his father a way more mask-off racist and antisemite?
He wasn’t a crazy racist until he moved to the US of A.
He likely just wasn’t an out racist. He’s likely been racist the whole time.
Another mystery of Nature vs. Nurture.
This has some serious Mac debunking evolution vibes.
