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      I think a lot of us in Washington and Oregon would be all for this. And we can leave the eastern sides out. Northern California is obviously welcome.

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        Northern California is obviously welcome.

        Except for Silicon Valley, right? Or does Canada have better antitrust and worker’s rights regulations and enforcement too?

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          Workers rights are of provincial jurisdiction with some industries being under federal jurisdiction (like banks), so it would mostly be up to the new provinces.

          Healthcare coverage is made mandatory by the federal side but is of provincial jurisdiction (so it’s not handled the same everywhere).

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        Trade NorCal for New England and it’s a deal.

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          Sorry. NorCal is part of our shared cultural region. We could probably accept New England in, though.

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    Minnesota welcomes Canada with the traditional poutine and tatortot hotdish border potluck

    Please don’t leave us behind

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    Vermont… I think we could get this done pretty quick… In fact, I bet the rest of the US wouldn’t even notice… Bonus, we’ll bring Bernie.

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      Vermont is already a honorary Canadian province for producing so much maple syrup.

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        Making maple syrup is my favorite late winter activity! I suck at it and have no real setup so it always has an ash flavor… But sitting around a fire all day watching sap boil is very relaxing… Almost everyone taps a tree or two at least.

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          Upvote for semi-obscure history reference, which unfortunately most products of US education won’t get.

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        Gotta get your politics in line… Ranked choice voting was a good start… Is that still a thing?

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          For federal offices yes, for state offices it would require a constitutional amendment. I think Maine is decently progressive despite the second district.

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    It’s funny how much more favorable the comments are on this compared donnie’s original comments.

    Canadians on joining the US: “oh hell no!”

    Americans on joining Canada: “me too please!”

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    Sooo, as a Canadian, I’m pretty sure I have the authority to speak for all of us, and as much as I’d love to have you all, I’d rather not tempt fate and accidentally start a war.

    Also, Indiana, Idaho, South Dakota and Wyoming, you’re expressly not allowed in.

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      You’re not going to allow states that don’t border you but you’re okay with Montana? And I wouldn’t say North Dakota is a bastion of progressivism either.

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      Also, Indiana, Idaho, South Dakota and Wyoming, you’re expressly not allowed in.

      There’s far too many MAGA hats in Montana and North Dakota for them to be welcomed either.

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      I think Alabama is one where the feeling is mutual.

      I wonder what Hawaii and Alaska would think.

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        As a Canadian, Hawaii really don’t feel Canadian. Would they be better off as their own thing?

        I thought Alaska could join as a territory and not a province but then realized that Alaska has more population than the 3 territories combined and then it’s still over 6 times more.

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      I don think you’d have to become part of Canada to join the Commonwealth so maybe there’s a chance?

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    Yes. One million times yes. Let’s watch the GOP fucking implode when the largest GDP State (CA) leaves their ass. It’s insane they are whining about our fires… Idaho was far more on fire this year than us in California. And that was all forest, not literal neighborhoods that 100% raked their fuckin leaves.

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      I feel like Michigan is a bit too swingy for that, they went red again (by a small margin) last election. I would really like it tho, it would make visiting my in-laws feel a bit less daunting.

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        Governor and State Senate legislature are blue, just not the state house. Overall Michigan is pretty purple with a small majority left which I think blends well with Canada.

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    California should totally join Canada.

    Having similar values, California will finally be able yonreally become what it wants under Canadian law. It being a ginormous economy is nice too for Canada and would just plain bankrupt the US in one go.

    They can have Alberta in return if they want

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      Only if we get autonomy that rivals the Quebecois, after all Canada will benefit far more from California’s economy than California will from Canada. Also we demand all the dot CA domains.

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        On the flip side…

        California subsidizes the shit out of the rest of the USA, and relatively speaking gets less in return. Imagine no longer having to finance just about everything of failed religious states like Kentucky and Mississippi.

        Also you wouldn’t have to deal with racist religious extremists. Like any country, we have our crazies but we’re not even close to the level of the US.

        Financially it would be hugely beneficial to California to be part of Canada.

        Also, get free healthcare, which is fucking awesome

        We can equally share the .ca domains, it’s not like there are that many left anyway

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          California is roughly equal in population to Canada and greater in size economically, this would make any situation where California is under Canada yet another unequal union. I propose that California, Canada, Mexico, and any other liberated states should make the North American Oil and Steel union. Basically get on the path of forming a North American Union.

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            I get what you’re saying, I’m just saying that California under Canada would be off a LOT better than it is currently under the US.

            But sure, go at it alone but make some sort of free trade and travel zone at least, ala Schengen in Europe.

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      The rest of Canada would never have a vote worth anything ever again. California and Canada have about equal populations.

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        Those are just solutions in waiting, I don’t see that as a barrier form California to join

        Also, Canada NEEDS more citizens, getting a huge influx of higher educated people isn’t a bad deal.

        Add the enormous economy and we have a winner

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    Here’s a nice compromise position - Canada becomes a republic; in exchange, the West Coast and the East Coast down to Maryland (or Virginia) join as unincorporated territories or whatever the Canuck equivalent is.

    please save us from Y’All Qaeda

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    As a Washingtonian, I would LOVE for this to happen. It’s a shame she’s joking.

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      I mean, as a Canadian I would say come on and get this going. Hell Alaska can join as well.

      Then tarriff the shit out of Trump for anything being shipped through new Canada from China lol.

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    Speaking at a press conference last week in Ottawa, May called out the president-elect, saying, "Hey, Donald, have we got a deal for you? You think we want to be the 51st state huh? But maybe California would like to be the 11th province. How about it? California? Oregon? Washington?

    I live in California and I’d like this. But then the USA would never have a non-GOP president ever again and that’s against my conscience.

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      The “United States” is done anyway, there’s no way, ironically, to make America great again.

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      Washington would fit right in. Western Washington is already a lot like British Columbia, and Eastern Washington is already a lot like Alberta.

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        Alberta, aka Hellberta, aka the Texas of Canada.

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            No, but the right-wing mindset is.

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              News to me, same crazy people all over. But as Canada’s punching bag, feel free to take it out on Alberta.

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                I lived in Cowtown in 1979-82, before it was this bad. Kind of liked it then … not so much now.

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                  I get the idea, but you have not lived here since 82. I have to travel a bit in the prairies and let me tell you a lot of Canada makes cowtown look like a progressive paradise. Is it worse now, yeah. Is it as bad as say a town in Manitoba or Saskatchewan? Nope, but we Canadians don’t like to think of our countries slide into right wing populism out side of Alberta.

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      At some point it stops being a game of “save everyone”, and starts becoming “save as many as you can”.

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    I think each individual state should be able to choose whether they stay in the US or not. Every ten years, the citizens of the state voted. If you vote to leave, you can’t come back for ten years. It would take place at the same time as the census.