Summary
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused Donald Trump of living in a “Russian-made disinformation space” due to his administration’s talks with Kremlin officials.
He urged Trump’s team to be “more truthful” after Trump blamed Kyiv for the war and downplayed U.S. aid contributions.
Zelenskyy’s remarks came as U.S. envoy Keith Kellogg visited Kyiv amid shifting U.S. policy on Russia. Meanwhile, European leaders, feeling sidelined by U.S.-Russia talks, held emergency meetings.
Zelenskyy canceled a Saudi Arabia trip in protest.
It’s the same false reality bubble that got Putin to think he could take Ukraine in 3 days, Same one that made Britain dipshits think Brexit was going to be a golden age and it was the opposite, and now Trump and his republican dumbfucks are under the same illusion that rewinding the clock to the late 1800s and trying to force this country to be a christian kingdom of conformity and idiocy will be a good thing long term and not spell the end of this place allowing China to finalize their technological power takeover and become the new pinnacle of influence on the planet. Wouldn’t be surprised if all of these very priceless high level intel all roots from China.
Why China? Why not the billionaires in each of their own countries? The “Dark Gothic MAGA” doc is not just eye opening to what could be going on in the US, but for other countries under influence by a wealthy elite as well. I think China are able to quash these shadow movements since they maintain a large controller of their industrial sectors while also operating in the shadows. Because they have this control, I can see why we use them as a scapegoat. However, the ones with the most influence, the most accessibility, and the most to gain in the short term are the heads of industry. With the technological advancements of recent decades, those heads of industry can be found to be influencing the very means by which the people and therefore world leaders make decisions
Why is the draft Dodger trying to start a war.
Easy, he won’t have to fight in it, and he figures he could make a shitload of money!
Zelenskyy acting more like the character expected of an American president than the one who got elected to be America’s President.
Lol. no. Trump is living in Trump made disinformation space.
Can we start calling Trump supporters Commies now, I feel that would make them mad.
They will just tell you Russia isn’t Communists.
The only difference is the guy in charge, flag and name. Still the same people and same methodes
Yes, it’s called the bank account of Russia… that’s the disinformation space he’s in. Just swimming in it. Filthy
He urged Trump’s team to be “more truthful”
Trump responded by calling Zelensky a “dictator without elections”, and suggested his ratings were low.
(for those curious: the Ukrainian law
constitutionprohibits electing a president during war, it’s especially hard with 20% of the country under hostile control; and regarding Zelensky’s rating, it’s about 57%70%currently)After that, some Republicans with a spine (Mike Pence, Don Bacon, Thom Tillis, Mike Rounds, John Kennedy, et al) also called out Trump to be more truthful.
If Elon is true to his word, he now has to give 100 M to politicians who oppose those Republicans in primaries. Because he threatened to beat anyone who badmouths his boss with his wallet.
(for those curious: the Ukrainian constitution prohibits electing a president during war, it’s especially hard with 20% of the country under hostile control; and regarding Zelensky’s rating, it’s about 70% currently)
A lot of Ukrainians have also fled the country, it makes no sense to organize this before ending the war. Why do we have to have this discussion? They are at war, marshal law is common during times of war to keep your country unified during these periods. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have vast oceans between them and their adversaries to allow for elections of their highest office to continue uninterrupted.
Because this isn’t about fair elections, it’s about getting a puppet government in charge who will just end the war freely by bending over for Russia. As if Putin and Trump actually care about fair elections… absolute clown show.
Right, and the puppet in charge will be rather obvious. The only other candidate that would win in a fair Ukrainian election is even more aggressive about opposing Russia than Zelenskyy, but since this is going to be rigged neither of those will win.
John Kennedy
i’ll always know him as the “i can’t wait to have your cock in my mouth” guy
Zelenskyy is completely right on here.
He isn’t, he is still polite to give Donnie a benefit of a doubt, like he is speaking like that because he’s got malinformed. No, Trump uses his position to exchange Ukraine and the security of Europe for whatever he was promised or he himself promised beforehand for his success in pres campaign previosly, so he just closes his debts. Zelensky couldn’t say that to Trump all other countries and his own nation are paper tokens he uses to play monopoly with his friends. Ukrainian defence depend too deeply on what Biden’s given them before so as a diplomat he doesn’t want to cross out the US even though he knows that with Trump they’d hardly get anything. And it’s not about the US specifically, it’s a standard that keeps every other donor comfortable to donate arms and money, setting the climate in which no random and immidiate decisions pass, unlike what Trump does.
Yah, Zelensky has blood on his hands. He’s responsible for a large majority of Ukrainian deaths, as Putin is responsible for Russian deaths. It’s Zelensky that has decided it’s ‘fight till death or NATO saves us’ while refusing to find other solutions. I feel nauseous when people call him a hero. He’s a power hungry ‘nice guy’ who is more interested in fame and wealth than saving Ukrainian lives.
One day old account with only negative point comments relating to Trump and Ukraine
With “Ops” in the name, no less.
Right… remind me who started this “3 day special military operation”? It was Zelenskyy right? Oh wait no it wasn’t. They only other solution was let russia take over all of Ukraine. Why are you defending putin? All those dead Ukrainians are his fault.
Pay no mind to the obvious troll/Russian boy/Republican (I mean who can tell the difference these days)
No, he’s not. He’s an actor playing a role so he can continue to grow his net worth by the millions.
your whole account is taking L’s. Go back to reddit!
Is it? I don’t see
I know, that’s the unfortunate part.
I think you are confusing Zelensky with Putin? The later’s enigmatic but substantial personal wealth is well reported.
America is living in a disinformation space. There is a reason Musk bought Twitter, and it’s not because he thought he could make it better for users.
See also: hyperreality
Also the reason why Saudis funded it. They want a piece of the post truth pie. But why did Elon even bother with the Saudi money? Is it as simple as wanting to keep the high score?
He paid $44 billion for twitter (of his and others’ money) but the presidency of the richest country on earth only cost $250 million? It doesn’t add up at all.
He doesn’t have money. He has assets. That means he need’s to take out a loan against his assets. And who would have done such a thing for a money pit that was twitter?
I suspect it was planned out. He “jokingly” says he wanted to buy twitter. Courts say it was a legitimate offer and he has to go through with it. He protested for a moment then says oh well, ya got me. Commence purges that likely had to do with political beliefs, then here we are, buying the president of the USA for 1/176th the price of twitter. I’m just rambling here but where’s the missing piece? Or is it just that cut and dry?
Same thought came to mind two days ago. In retrospect, that Twitter purchase appears so excellent as to make the attempted backtracking look contrived and intentional.
But there are other possible explanations. Maybe he jumped the gun before his planning partners had agreed to.
And I’m reminded there doesn’t need to be any conspiracy here because I can’t think of what would have been different if the purchase were announced as a one intended to influence politics.
Wasn’t he pushing the angle that Twitter falsely stated the user base because of the high numbers of bots and therefore falsely stated the business value? I think he was trying to push the sale value down. I could easily be wrong, I didnt follow it closely.
Removed by mod
The majority of VPN users uses it for Netflix. Having your ip hidden means fuck all if you still consume the same media. Also: as if “only 25%” isn’t still a significant amount of the population
About time someone stood up to the orange bully. Go VZ, go! 🇺🇦
Trump is a russian marionette
Not just Russia’s puppet. He’ll let literally anyone stick their hand up his ass if they pay him.
Very handy that he has his own $Trump coin. Not a word of protest from conservatives.
Conservatives are fundamentally against financial risks, and the crypto industry is financially risky. The crypto industry has been liberal/blue from the start and still is. Conservatives aren’t talking about it because the average crypto holder is not a republican. I can tell you’re the type to say things like ‘it’s the republicans fault’ that Biden approved $400 off armored teslas.
Funny how all the Crypto bros fell in line with Maga when they were so liberal and blue and so many of the Billionaire backers of the repulican party are also into crypto. Also funny how we now have our first Crypto tzar under republican Trump.
Biden asked for companies to make a bid on EV armoured cars, Tesla was the only bidder and it was not concluded when Biden left office.
Idk what you’re smoking to think conservatives are against financial risk, given conservative governments reliably fuck up the economy.
They’re against financial risk - to themselves.
Yah no. You don’t have to be uneducated. Go search the ‘core principles of conservatism.’
Go read the news.
Point #5 right here: https://mikejohnson.house.gov/7-core-principles-of-conservatism/
You could have found this information yourself.
Conservatives don’t follow that one, and repeatedly vote for people who cannot manage an economy at all.
If I tell you one of my core principles is that all life is sacred, and then I go out hunting, start a couple wars and in general kill a ton of people and animals, me telling you about my core principles is just lying.
Conservatives reliably cannot manage an economy, in fact the US has voted someone in who can’t even run a fucking casino. Conservatives are not the side of good economics, no matter how often they lie saying they are.
The Crypto Industry is full of Libertarian idiots who are not Liberal/Blue in any way shape of form. Its just another scam tool for assholes to sucker idiots out of money and it’s never ever going to amount to anything more than that.
that is not true one bit, alot of republicans, conservative buy into crypto alot they take alot more risks. someone youtubers bought into cryptos during the SBF crash that someone peddled to them on the channel, and they all love trump, when it crashed they all lost a ton of money 1million+each, none of them were so-called liberals. they take alot more risks than you think. also studies have shown that conservatives fall for scams much easier than democrats. i think you are just pulling things out of your behind.
So who was buying the trump coin?
Idk you can tell me? Probably young investors who don’t remember a time before crypto. Young ppl have historically been more ‘left liberal.’ Historically, crypto grew in Americas most liberal cities, hence why crypto is historically associated with democrats. Hence why red states like Montana creating crypto friendly legislation seem so ‘progressive.’ No one uses the word progressive to describe republicans.
Okay, so you don’t understand that it was trump’s supporters.
The entirety of your comment history reads like a manifesto written by someone who has taken to many stims.
Most people in crypto are drawn to it the same way people are to gambling apps. Politics means shit and it’s just full of people chasing after get rich quick scheme and fixating the price and trying to convince people to keep buying so they can offload their bag. Who the hell plays up crypto like it’s some liberal stance when it’s been mainstream for years.
Lmao! What goes on in your head?
nothing goes in his head,
Theres even people here on lemmy living in that space
Are the old men stuck in a feedback loop?
Trump and Musk literally got regular phone mentoring on how to do what they’re doing (shape and install an official Oligarchy). You don’t need to create an information space when the participants are willingly taking direct lessons and coaching from Putin.
The republican traitor filth must be held to account.
Grow up. It’s not red vs blue. It’s billionaires vs peasants.
The irony of this comment.
What is the irony?
That you cheerlead worst of the wealthy. And then disingenuously say that like it wipes away everything else you’ve done. People can clearly see you’re disingenuous.
I don’t get it. How will they sell to the people this total capitulation? I’m not American. As far as I’m informed people there don’t like and don’t trust Russia and Putin. Won’t they see this deal and be like wtf?
There are people here who will tell you that they would trust the Russian government more than their neighbor, if their neighbor ever suggested that industry should be regulated.
I stopped being nice to those neighbors. Feed your own cats. No I’m not turning the music down. Get fucked traitors.
That conjured a great mental image for me of old man Putin setting out little bowls for neighborhood cats with the faces of Elon and Trump.
I’ve heard it said that Putin is actually the world’s richest man, worth over $1 trillion. I could believe it.
The most telling statistic about Russia’s trustworthiness is that every single independent country that shares a border with Russia on the West has mandatory military service and those in the same region without a shared border with Russia don’t.
They don’t have their own thoughts anymore; they love trump so much, they’re just going along with whatever he says and he says he likes Russia, so they’ve done a complete about-face on the subject.
It was never really about Russia or Putin, but the ideological divide between capitalism and socialism. And authoritarianism and democracy.
Now, we have an authoritarian president. And apparently a third of the country voted for that so. Yeah that’s where Americans are at sadly.
The word President implies authority. No, Trump is not an authoritarian. Yes, he has displayed authoritarian tendencies. Trump is not Hitler. Take a second to google ‘worlds best leaders’ and you see a lots of people who were never leading entire countries but just led culture, like Ghandi. It’s reasonable to conclude that most humans do not view any political leader as best or the greatest when they hold authority over other people. A leader is only considered good when they don’t have power over the population.
No, Trump is not an authoritarian.
That’s clearly false. He is actively attempting to expand presidential authority at the cost of the Congress, courts and federal agencies. He’s also replacing staff very agressively, installing loyalists whom he expects to do what he says. He has already gradually purged internal opposition within the Republican party, and continues work towards that end.
The essence of authoritarianism is grabbing more power (accompanied by claims of needing it for legitimate purposes) - with dictatorship at the far end.
Just ask ChatGPT, look up the definition of the word, use google AI … put in any effort to verify your assumptions or false information is true. And type behavior like Nixon, yes. He does not fit the definition of an authoritarian.
Here, since you need what the definition is. I’m not sure how you don’t think trump isn’t authoritarian. He’s a fucking wanna be dictator, and he’s consolidating his powers more and more.
Donald Trump is authoritarian. Rather or not the United States can keep him in check is a different question
And since you were so big on being pedantic, scroll back up and see what I said. I said President Trump is an authoritarian.
He wants to be king, he wants to be like Putin, he admires people like Hitler.
I’m talking about his attitudes and intentions. Not rather or not the US qualifies as an authoritarian regime. We will find out the answer to that question very soon.
He’s a toddler who is going to push the boundaries until they break. And if anyone tells him no, he’s going to throw a fit. What happens after that, will answer the question.
But my initial comment, was about Trump’s character. Not if the union currently qualifies. I think how they start responding to mass protests in the spring will let us know for sure.
I fully expect state violence and suppression will be the response. At which point you can eat all of your words.
As far as I’m informed people there don’t like and don’t trust Russia and Putin.
Not anymore. Much of America is stuck in an information space that sees Russia/Putin as oppressed by liberal propaganda, like they supposedly are.
Much of America doesn’t care, or will see warped versions of this news.
Look at poll exit interviews of Americans, or more recent focus groups. We don’t “see” the same realities anymore, and it’s getting worse.
Wherever you are, friend, beg your country to block or regulate Twitter/Facebook/Tiktok and point to us as what happens when you don’t.
Don’t like? Disagree. There are Russian people all over America. Don’t trust? Yes, America doesn’t trust Russia and the average American would be slightly nervous in Russia. The rest of the world needs to learn that since America is the most racially diverse country on earth, America as a whole is unable to hate entire ethnic group.
There are surveys done.
