Brösche, 26, never made it to LA. She’s been in federal immigration custody since Jan. 25 — the day they tried to cross into the United States through the San Ysidro Port of Entry.
Brösche had her German passport, confirmation of her visa waiver to enter the country, along with a copy of her return ticket back to Berlin, Lofving said. A U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agent pulled Brösche aside for a secondary inspection.
She didn’t know it then, but it would be 25 days before Lofving would see her friend again. Brösche would spend that time in federal detention, where she remains, waiting for a deportation flight back to Berlin.
If every year we ripped the richest person on earth into pieces like a piñata and spread their wealth around, do you think they would still pursue enough excess money to break our global economy?
Not one precious white person!!! \s
Things have been like that way before Trump. You only see, sporadically, headlines like that, when Europeans are affected. Oh well
I don’t think this is concerning because an European is affected. It is concerning because is happening to a tourist that clearly was going to return home, that the conditions in these centers are terrible for everyone there, and that at least some of these detention centers are run by for-profit private companies. It is no secret that the immigration system in the US is broken and is pretty much inhumane. It goes beyond who is in the White House, and speaks volumes on how broken the American society is.
Tourism to American is just too risky right now.
I never thought the US could fall this fast, but Trump has them on a speed run, even when he inherited the hottest economy in history.
I’d wager this is all because of some innocent comment she made about her tattoos and the agent jumped on it. Just like a cop, the agent was probably being friendly to get her to talk and got her to admit she did some tattoo work the last time she was there. Remember everyone only answer direct and relevant questions, anything else they ask is just trying to find a reason to screw you over!
Once the German embassy is getting involved though, she should have been released immediately but it’s clear this administration likes the power trip too!
Even the garbage about not letting her go back to Mexico is crazy, I know they do that all the time without proof of residency. This agent definitely had it out for her!
Even a few years ago, maybe 2017, I was at JFK airport and lady somehow was getting off a plane from London and couldn’t find her passport, the agents got worked up but released her after some kind of back and forth where she had to appear with her passport in a couple of days (or something). Somehow the passport was in her luggage that had been checked in, IDK.
I don’t know why people are surprised. US customs has always been rude and shitty like this. I’m Indian by heritage (US citizen), and I still get looks going through customs at LAX and shitty bag checks.
It also certainly doesn’t help that she was going through San Ysidro. Worst port of entry imo. Customs has always been bad and this stupid administration has given them more fuel to be worse.
Tho I’d argue that this is the situation in customs all over the world lmao. I was in a similar situation in France. Not even tourism. Went out to eat as I had a long layover and had issues when I came back.
You’re lucky that they let you back out after you entered france without a Visa, even if it’s just for a snack.
If the germans weren’t pussies they would kick the yank out of rammstein real quick.
But hey, they are quite tempted by the far right themselves.
It’s the airbase where if I remember correctly US pilots train German and Ukrainian pilots. US pilots that unlike any other pilots in the world have actually used planes in combat situations.
Don’t be too hasty to dissolve NATO. There’s a difference between trying to decrease European reliance on the US military and just destroying NATO with no replacement in sight
Yes, we’re tempted by the right, too. But ousting them now would do no good.
But Ramstein (only one m, unlike the band) - keep the USians there for a time, let’s keep it as is for a time until it’s time to make some kind of deal.
They might need it one day, so we keep it as a collateral.
All long term international agreements and security guarantees died on the weekend so we need tangible things to force our former allies - now those we have deals with - to ensure they behave.
The correct thing to do would be our foreign office to issue an official travel warning for the US. (Which would have some impact on tourism to the US)
Let’s keep the big things for later, we WILL need them.
Lofving said the episode is particularly absurd because Brösche’s original return flight to Berlin was on Feb. 15 — nearly two weeks ago.
“Why are American taxpayers spending thousands of dollars detaining tourists who are perfectly willing to leave,” she said.
The average cost of detaining a noncitizen adult is $164 per day, according to an ICE memo. Based on that average, a month of detention costs taxpayers $4,900.
Fucking clownshow of an administration
If they weren’t detained and roaming around through the country instead, they’d even spend money.
Make it make sense.It’s not a clownshow of course, things usually make sense when costing this much money, and of course they don’t stop making sense when costing billions.
Making sense is not the same as helping goodwilling humanity.
The very idea they didn’t just turn her around proves how evil these fucks can be.
Maybe they just forgot
CBP agents at the border accused Brösche of planning to violate the terms of the visa waiver program by intending to work as a tattoo artist during her trip to LA
Oh wow, a visiting artist might come do some art, fucking arrest her!
Jesus fucking christ the sociopathic cowards running these ABC agencies are dumber than shit
Hey, on the bright side she has an opportunity to make a sone money. Either through a potential lawsuit (doubt.) or the smarter option: oil on canvas artwork of her experience in the detention center. Her story is global now and the notoriety may boost the sale price.
Work doesn’t stop being work because it’s artistic.
If you violate your visa you can get deported, that’s pretty normal globally and does involve an arrest. It’s only exceptional because of the inhumane conditions of detention facilities in the US and because she was arrested immediately instead of being denied entry or educated on the restrictions of the visa. If she presumably told CBP she was intending to violate the visa waiver she probably thought it was acceptable for some reason.
“Why yes customs agent, I am intending to perform work in exchange for money while in the US on a tourism entry permit” -Privileged and naive white tourist used to the Schengen area about to dive face first into a poisoned spike pit that was meant to catch brown people
The problem is the spike pit, not really the person diving into it making headlines because they happen to be a white woman.
Yeah, but she didn’t violate it yet. We don’t arrest and detain people for what they might do(excluding threats to national security). Well at least on paper.
I agree that the tattoo work is still work, and I’m not implying you think she was rightfully detained. But if you are, she wasn’t. If you’re not, then this comment is to add context.
We don’t arrest and detain people for what they might do(excluding threats to national security). Well at least on paper.
The “excluding threats to national security” can be very flexible when you purposely do not define national security.
And this is just a story that made the news out of sheer luck. Imagine how many more innocent people are locked up or worse.
And this is just a story that made the news out of sheer
luckwhite privilege.Not sheer luck, but because she’s german. Germans haven’t been mass migrating to America since the 60s at the latest and her detention is a change from the norm of us mostly only doing this to Latin Americans, Caribbean folks, Middle Easterners, and Africans
So Eastern Europe is not in the list? Just askin
Nope, they aren’t brown enough to be on the list.
I have no idea. We don’t get enough of you for it to be a thing we really talk about
It’s certainly notable because of that, but her Germanity isn’t what led people to finally locate her - what the article outlined was a series of fortunate events.
In Norwegian, live in Denmark and work for a Danish company, who also operates in the US. If my manager were to say, it ask, if I can go to the US office for work, I’ll say no unless I get a really fucking good life insurance while I’m there. I don’t want to go to the US for whatever reason.
I was refusing to travel to the US for any reason, even before this latest insanity. Would I trust the average human being with a gun? No.
Then why the fuck would I go to the US, where any person can buy a machinegun from Walmart? Where multiple times every year there are mass murders with guns, even in schools?
Okay, a mass murderer might have to illegally travel through some states with said machinegun (if I went to one of the more reasonable states where they aren’t sold/allowed), but it’s not like there are checkpoints between borders. I doubt a mass murderer would care if their gun was illegal in the state they planned to shoot up. Insanity. I’m not sure why any reasonable person would have travelled to the US before, but now…?!
Nordic countries > EU countries + Switzerland > Oceania > rest. Unfortunately, I have to admit it as a German.
Imagine how many American citizens are sitting in these camps and will be deported to some other country as Trump tries to eliminate due process and rob them of their day in court.
Add tourism to another industry Trump is helping out.
And she remains waiting for a deportation flight back to Berlin, when she already had her own return ticket? Which she would have used already by now and been gone??? God these people are so fucking stupid.
I have to admit: I just crossed the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone Park off my bucket list whilst reading this story.
The police firearm homicides always felt a bit iffy but this clinches it. Definitely not going to try to visit that country. It’s not a risk I’m willing to run.
I just commented this to some other person here. I’ll paste my answer; I hope that’s okay.
China, India, Peru, and Mexico, to name a few, have deeper and larger canyons. A similar one to the Grand Canyon is the Copper Canyon. It is located in Chihuahua, Mexico. It is four times larger and almost twice as deep as the Grand Canyon. It has many tourists’ activities, and you can even add other destinations to your journey if you visit it by train. It is a nice option while we all wait for the end of the almost-fascist/probably-fascist situation in the U.S.
… another industry Trump is helping stamp out.
What a horrible situation for the artists and all those detainees…Seems random people have been detained and held way too long, without legal reasons.
It’s easy to make up a “legal reason”. The actual problem is violently controlling people.
You’d have to be downright r-worded today to want to visit USA. Not this woman, I mean every one who comes after her.
I would go. But i’m not crossing the border legally lmao no fucking way.
Yeah. I have friends who are wanting to come to the US. “It couldn’t happen to me, I’m white” they say. “I’m from Europe, I’ll be safe” they say.
No.
It’ll happen to them, and I’m scared because they refuse to listen.
Send them a link to this story.
I did.
As an American, I would recommend that folk reconsider travel to the US during the current administration. There are no longer checks and balances and it’s a very dangerous place at the moment. They’re removing all accountability for the border patrol and any immigration adjacent services so they can now do whatever they want. You’re at the complete mercy of the immigration service and they have full latitude to do whatever they want (legal or illegal) as the threat of repercussions have been removed. Be safe out there.
While this is true, people travel to Dubai and to Thailand and to Egypt (maybe not much recently) and, well, to Turkey.
Accountability and checks and balances in countries listed are such that the former two are technically absolute monarchies, so in that regard worse in skeleton than England after Magna Carta.
One difference is that Egypt and Turkey have a lot of tourism, so they tend to be quite tolerant towards tourists. You don’t want to scare off potential customers. The US seems to forget that.
And these police that have you at their mercy are pm selected for being dumb, and anyone who wants the job just wants the power to harm people. Also they get like two days of training before being given a badge and a gun. When they abuse their power, even when they murder people, they have next to zero accountability.
Don’t come here. Most of Central America is fantastically beautiful, welcoming, and safe. From what I understand Canada is as well (I’m not allowed in the country) but it’s cold there much of the year.
My university sent out travel warning announcements about the US to all students and staff through email and matrix last week. Basically warning everyone, especially queer people, that you should expect complications or unjust treatment when traveling to the US. Kinda crazy that some german university takes this more serious than the US democrats take the end of their democracy.
Thanks. The US is the last place I wanted to go anyway, I don’t want to support genociders.
She didn’t even do anything. They just took her aside because they thought she might use her time to work in the US. What the fuck is wrong with those people?
Give people power without accountability and this is what happens. Every single time. That’s what the rule of law is about and that’s why fascists hate it so much.
Commenting to emphasize this.
I bet she’s attractive to the people who detained her. Why would they separate her from her friend.
