Ok boys let’s:
- rename Ukraine Israel and give this suitless guy money and guns.
- And I guess that means the og israel is renamed Ukraine and has to fight Russians.
- Step three profit?
- World peace?
Thats NCD territory right there
This comment is batshit insane. I’m for it.
Just doing my part.
Hahaha this is gold. Thanks for sharing, made me day.
Where is Saddam Hussein in this map?
Oh shit. I knew I was forgetting something.
This should be more common knowledge. Why am I just learning about this?
All the talk about “Putin fighting Nazis”. It would have been nice to be able to say, “actually bruh” for years now.
Thank you for this post. I am so mad at myself for not knowing this already.
After a brief search, this appears to be true. With the caveat the ultimate source seems to be Zelensky himself. The articles I surveyed all referenced interviews and speeches of Zelensky.
Thank you. Everyone here automatically assuming it’s true, because they want it to be, as usual.
So, may well be fact, take with a grain of salt.
Honestly, the only part I wouldn’t trust is the idea the men willingly joined instead of being drafted. I’m pretty sure most Eastern European men can trace their family back to fighting Nazis, except for the ones who were Nazis.
If you had a pulse time to be in the war effort in some capacity.
Damn, I’m just constantly impressed at how good of a leader and person this dude is.
Liked him ever since I saw him play the piano with his wang on John Oliver.
So that’s why they hate him
That and he refused to be a patsy for trump’s pack-of-Biden-lies for which he was impeached the first time.
.ml tankies: “UkRAInE iS StILl a bUnCh oF NaZIs, rusSSia dID NoThIng WRonG”
Yeah… What they tend to leave out is that anywhere from 100-250k people in Ukraine fought with the Nazi, while anywhere from 6-7 million Ukrainians fought against them, and had some of the hardest fighting on the eastern front.
I mean… a bunch of Israelis lost family in the Holocaust… and yet.
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6 years ago when this article was written, yeah, there was some trepidation because this phrase was being used by the OUN. But they didn’t create it, don’t own it, it’s not theirs. It’s a slogan for broad Ukrainian support.
Hitler drank milk, but calcium is not just for fascists
So? The Nazis didn’t invent the “Heil” salute, or the roman salute either.
Considering that there is substantial concern about fascists in Ukraine, I think it’s better not to reproduce Bandera’s salute.
Bandera’s fascist gang also used a red and black flag very similar to the anarcho-communist one (and which you can see today in western Ukraine quite often) and I kinda think it is still ok for Anarchists to use that flag 😅
Things are often not so black and white 🤷♂️
The anarchist flag is both distinct and came before, though. And as I said in the other comment: the Nazis didn’t invent “Heil!” or the roman salute, either.
It’s easy to mistake and yes indeed it came before like the other examples. I think the difference is that the roman salute is already culturally not-ok to use, so still using it is an intentional sign. The Ukrainian slogan on the other hand is quite commonly used without bad intend (although most Ukrainians also do not know much about the fascist history of Bandera to be honest).
I’m wondering why you’re still replying, considering that giving historical context of the phrase is apparently forbidden because of “no”.
Sorry, I don’t get you. Edit: ah, because the mod removed the original post? I didn’t see that.
I think a tiny bit of nationalism is okay when your country is literally under attack and you have to come together to survive. Nationalism spurred on by imaginary threats is the kind that divides us. I don’t mind saying “go Ukraine go!” at a time like this.
I disagree and it’s hardly a “tiny bit” when you’re literally doing the salute of a literal Nazi Germany collaborator. Also a bit iffy, considering far right nationalists were infiltrating the army, the police and the secret police in Ukraine, torturing communists.
… and even if that all were ok: could we at least not reproduce that stuff when we’re not Ukrainian?
I’ve never been a (Canadian) patriot, but I’m quite happy to see “buy Canadian” these days – am I wrong to? It’s a way of signalling we don’t take $%^& from Trump.
Not what this is about, homie.
I’d call that a tiny bit of nationalism though.
And it’s not what I’m talking about.
If your logic can’t be applied to more than one scenario then your logic is flawed.
I disagree and it’s hardly a “tiny bit”
I don’t mean to drag this out, but when you said you disagree, what was it that I said that you disagreed with?
Oh, go away. The country is in the process of being slowly invaded by a US-Backed Russia, seeking to turn everything Ukraine into burning rubble with a Russian flag on top of it. And yet you want to start nitpicking the rallying cry for a country in crisis? Your article even throws doubt on your claims.
Why do Americans chant “USA! USA!” At sporting events? Seems a little nationalist to me.
