We’re just real men
What the fuck is “low value men”? No one else can decide your value.
It’s the attempt to understand dating through tech bro economics.
The look at supply/demand (swipes), and decide their value based on the demand of the “market” is.
It’s deranged
I’ve learned from my female friends that the bar for men is so fucking low. Basically shower regularly, listen to what other people say, know how to keep your home relatively clean and don’t be a creep and you’re immediately in the top 30%
you forgot the financial part
I don’t think they did. The bar is pretty low and still applies if you’re poor or rich.
No need to bring incell culture here.
i’m bringing incel culture here? did you notice notice this is a post about “incel culture” from and incel?
besides, the notion that a financially unstable man has a hard time dating is not an incel concept… it’s just straight up reality.
i’ve even seen good reasoning regarding a woman’s risk of pregnancy vs a man’s risk….i could go on, but it’s a straight up fact that: no money -> no honey
and i do not blame women, i blame capitalism and patriarchy.
incidentally i actually met their hero, Elliot Rogers… aka, the incel school shooter….
he was very rich, his dad directed Hunger Games… aside from being a psychopathic piece of shit, incel has nothing to do with money, it’s about how they think they can’t get laid with their idolized tall blond woman without being a chad or whatever….tl;dr the bar is low but definitely includes financial stability… not wealth.
6 figures, 6 feet, 6 inches is on a lot of people’s profiles.
If you were rich it would probably more than double the number of people who are interested in you.
Part of why there are so many idiots self assigning as incels is because we refuse to agree with them when it’s fair.
This shit culture perpetuates itself all over the gender spectrum.
I agree, but there’s is also the reallity that if you have no hobbies and no passions other than gooning you’re going to come off as pretty uninteresting and boring to most people. Some would call that being low-value
Nah low value isn’t about hobbies and stuff. That’s teenager stuff.
It’s quite easy… be dependable, be able to communicate, be good looking, charisma, …
Girls don’t give a shit about your hobbies unless they also have those exact same hobbies.
It’s not so much about the hobby itself. It’s the having interests part. Having some things you like to do or are passionate about. Sure, some hobbies will attract more interest from women then others, but plenty of women are into video games, working out, or any other “unattractive” hobbies, you just got to find the right match.
I mean sure buddy, but are you gonna open up the bar with “Let me tell you how dependable and good I am at communicating.” or are you gonna show her that by telling her about your hobbies and how you stick to them despite hardship. If you can’t talk about what you like, how are you gonna talk about the difficult stuff down the line?
I’d say well groomed is more important than “good looking”. If you look clean, your clothes are well fitted, hair and nails well trimmed and show some basic hair and skin care you look good regardless of what your face actually looks like.
Thinking that hobbies have no value, that’s teenager stuff. So is thinking that what applies to one woman applies to all.
Well groomed… really wasn’t necessary. I just wore a t-shirt and whenever I was interested in someone I would take off that t-shirt.
I was age 21-24 though, so teenager stuff might still have applied.
Met my wife when I was 24, now 6 years together.
So yeah, my experience with women basically is from age 17 to 24. As teenager, it was all about hobbies etc.
Now as a married man… my wife doesn’t give a fuck bout my hobbies, she’s pregnant so she wants someone dependable. Long term relationship so we need to be communicative.
Hobbies… we do things together. Outings, watching series. She suffers through my blabbering bout economic stuff that she really doesn’t care about. She watches me workout for the so maniest time.
When you’re looking for a relationship, all you need to do is have fun. Be charming. Your hobby can be whatever. They want you, not your hobby, not your grooming. If you’re fit and you can make her laugh, that’s all you need.
I mean sure, different people have different preferences when it comes to grooming. My point is more along the lines of: It doesn’t matter how funny you are if you stink and your hair is greasy.
Come on bruv, taking a shower takes 10 minutes a day.
I thought you meant like fine shaving your facial hair, making sure your hair length, fade, etc is always on point. Wearing suit or expensive clothing. Wearing perfume.
That’s grooming.
Taking a shower and brushing your teeth is the most basic thing
Now you see how fucking low the standards are for men. And yet there are still plenty of men that can’t seem to get it.
Exactly my dude it’s basic, I find it crazy that it’s not more common.
And yet, take a look in any Games Workshop and you’re quite likely to find people who will happily go weeks without a shower despite sweating like a pig just hauling their immense bulk across the room for another 2 litre bottle of coke or pepsi.
The nearest store to me for example had to put a fucking sign in the window warning that staff will remove any such sources of offensive body odour from the premises and issue bans on repeat offenses.
I mean, what the fuck?!
It’s not the ladies’ fault they find such utter lack of basic hygiene repulsive, despite what the Taint brothers and their ilk say, but it’s the same basic bitch lie every right wing cockbite sells.
“It’s not your fault or mine that your life is a bin fire, it’s insert target group here’s fault. Here, do what I tell you and it’ll get better.”
All downhill from believing that “pretty little lie”. There is currently a rising tide of people caught up in the lie the world over, and they’re unwilling to admit they were had. If history is any teacher, it’s got to get waaaay worse before the wind shifts.
Incels are low value men…but not for the reason they think
No one else can decide your value.
Others can decide over your value inside their own socials context, which lead to the value-judging person and their peers to act accordingly towards you.
If you apply this value to yourself or reject it and if other contexts and groups adopt the value is an other story.A “low value man” is a man that tries to decide another ones value.
Imagine the world is a video game. Higher value characters of the race man would have things like a high earning job (a good class), a decent amount of wealth, high physical stats, high charisma. Low value characters would have a terrible class (smelly gamer), stats they believe are skewed towards intelligence, and no money.
If your world view is like this except you also believe there are hidden stats you can’t ever change(like looks), and you’re in a capitalist nightmarescape where even changing your class and amount of wealth is typically impossible, then you’ve accidently an entire incel.
God this is stupid even for green text
That’s how you now it’s not fake.
It still could be gay
The friend is just jealous the girl is getting more attention from OP and going full yandere
Not gay enough, shits bad
He and his friend could be sleeping together, but otherwise in an open relationship.
I’ve legit had this happen to me in high school. I stopped being friends with guys after it became… “aggressive”.
I had this happen to me in my 30’s. (Sorta.)
Polyamory - a woman who hadn’t been taking on new partners started dating me. My other girlfriend’s husband began awkwardly pursuing her with no grace or finesse. It got awkward. An acquaintance learned that I was dating the second woman (who had also only recently gotten back into the scene), and began pursuing her.
It’s like some guys think that because a woman is available to one (well, two or three), she’s available to all. It felt very much like blood in the water to a shark.
Teenager moment
One of them is lower value than the other, it would seem.
