Curious if anyone has the original Universal Monk comment handy.
Jeez, Universal Monk is still at it? Christ almighty.
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Holy hell, that’s hilarious coming from that ragebait fascist weirdo!
It’s always either projection or the opposite of what they’re saying.
Monk needs serious help.
He’s a literal fascist. Let Supply Side Jesus sort it out.
Good. Lemmy should not be a safe space for fascists.
There’s already a lemmy instance safe space of fascists, they can go there (the instance is blacklisted by the majority of other instances).
Exploding heads?
I was thinking in another one, so I guess there’s multiple of them to choice.
Yes we should.
I saw, and was suspicious of Donald J. Musk. Umonk again! What a dweeb.
Didn’t notice the username at first.
sEriOus ConSerVative ComMuniTy
Literally an oxymoron and trust me, I know because I have seen more of it than any of you combined.
It’s mostly all based on: we must make leftist cry. Such seriousness, the very core of it is fundamentally a joke.No wonder right leaning instance is just shitposts and memes galore. This is basically what modern conservatism is.
No wonder right leaning instance is just shitposts and memes galore.
A conservative visiting lemmy would say the exact same thing. The difference in my mind is that right-wing memes mostly leave me thinking, “No one says or believes that. Fuck you on about?”
Same thoughts I have talking to conservatives IRL. Having only been presented with the most outlandish fruitcakes, they’ve brainwashed into thinking there are legions of fucking nutcase left-wingers out there.
For left-wingers making fun, yeah, the memes more often reflect what the right actually says and believes.
(Yes, I’m biased, but I try really hard to be objective.)
Everyone is biased, in some way. There is no such thing as being unbiased.
As a budding radical centrist I hate every cuck winger with equal passion. The left however has some merit to protect the minorities and at least in theory aims to reduce inequalities. The far left are bunch of unfunny idiots however
Internet exclusive breed of far left ohhh these are people that should be branded with red hot iron
radical centrist
So… Half-racist? I’m not sure compromising with bigots is something to crow about.
No. It’s more like hating and bashing everyone equally.
It is a radical oppression of radicalism and rejection of demented idealism that I deliver in short precision strikes to the unsuspecting.Is it always this well received?
I don’t know, but it is always very entertaining. It provides sufficient level to stave off boredom in apotheka queues or waiting for mini paint to dry out
Internet is PvP CoD mobile without shitty controls. Centrism is like the most funny cheesy class in this digital sandbox of pointless eternal arguments
As for my real views I guess that would be what makes me the most money and convenience at the moment if I am brutally honest. Some kind of trans matriarchy capital paradise party. Let’s call it technofeminocapitalism? but generally I vote mainstream left out of pragmatic necessity. They don’t care about economic leftism after all so it aligns with my interests and goals considering I am in the upper class after all.
If I were in the lower class I am not sure if I would vote at all. There seems to be no party that cares about the wage workers
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No. It’s more like hating and bashing everyone equally.
I can respect that! You and me are closer in spirit than apart, friend. Lemmy loves to say I’m conservative, but I’m actually a socialist. And I voted socialist in the election. Which is what started all of this and why Lemmy is still mad at me.
Attention Lemmy: Me voting socialist in the election did NOT make Trump win. lol
The sad fact is America needs an actual conservative movement that isn’t just nazis in hiding. Im not sure it can exist anymore as conservatives havent had a “normal” party in 30+ years
Does it though? I mean that would be better than fascism, no doubt, but what are we trying to conserve, really?
Ideally fiscal responsibility and a resistance to government intrusion in the private sphere.
By private sphere do you mean people’s private lives and activities or corporate political organizations? If the former, then I agree, if the latter then those are in dire need of disruption.
The former, the GOP used to be conservative liberals.
Conservatives haven’t had fiscal responsibility in probably near 50 years. People should absolutely stop equating conservatives to fiscal responsibility. It’s a lie conservatives keep telling each other.
The economy has always been better under democrats.
Ideally fiscal responsibility and a resistance to government intrusion in the private sphere.
Which is what libertarians and a LOT of republicans want. But for some reason, Lemmy seems to hate libertarians even more than republicans. lol
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How could one tell when that happens?
Dude is bugged out more than an abandoned gas station bathroom.
Dude is bugged out more than an abandoned gas station bathroom.
I actually like this sentence! Have my upvote!
Did it occur to anyone that “triggering” those who have had or are on the verge of a complete mental break could exacerbate the issues? Like do we really want to be the straw that causes a suicide or mass shooting?
You ain’t wrong but also there is the classic FAFO maxim.
If you monk says stupid shit, we can’t expect people NOT to return the favour.
But yea if you sense somebody is not mentally well, then people best to take the high road.
He’s a spicy one, I’ve been poking him for a week or two. He’s about to snap
That sounds like you’re admitting to trolling. Are you talking about me, or the guy in OP’s post?
I’d seen comments about this account before and noted how the phrasing and comment behavior was a dead ringer for Universal Monk’s usual bullshit. Glad to see others saw the same thing.
Has his Barry Goldwater alt been banned yet?
Donald J Musk stopped posting for the better part of a week and almost all activity stopped on their comms for a while.
Must be fun talking to yourself through different accounts :)
Edit: reread my comment again slowly, you’ll get it :)
So if he stopped, then why did they ban him thinking he was me? And in OP’s post, the example says it’s a word-for-word copy of one of my comments. But I don’t have any comments that say that.
So I’m still not even sure why he was banned. Plus, he’s still posting, so it wasn’t an instance ban.
He’s not me by the way, so make no difference to me. But you all and your witch-hunts are getting crazy. I’m right here. No need to go seeing me in everyone else. :)
Hm, so other bans are going to follow?
For what though? What would you ban him for exactly? Because he was accused of being me?! That’s the road you guys are gonna go down?! lol
serious question, does shitjustworks have a reputation as a conservative community? I guess I do most of my browsing in the all feed so maybe I just haven’t seen it? definitely not the instance I’d like to be on if that’s the case 😅
I think they’re referring to the /c/conservative community ON shitjustworks. I certainly have never experienced the instance in general leaning conservative.
I love how all the conservative comms have no legit posts above 1 upvotes.
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Is there something weird with shitjustworks that I’m not aware of?
Not that I know of, this is just the unhinged rant of a madman.
I think the conservative community was abandoned there, letting it go to seed with people who aren’t in that cult.
It’s too friendly. Something’s not right.
My experience with UM et al is cavity inducing sweetness of tone while spouting racist BS.
Please post proof that I’m racist or that I’ve said anything racist. You can’t. Because I’m not. I’m actually bi-racial and have been on the receiving end of racism.
I think the conservative com there got taken over by mods that aren’t right-wing and now exists to make fun of the right. I don’t particularly care but I can see why rightists might not love this.
lol before the takeover, every post made in there was kicked over and over like a sad puppy.
Yes I actually tried joining a few conservative communities for rational and productive discourse. The “progressive” mods deleted my good faith posts and comments, brigaded and made outright hostile comments. God forbid people seek common ground and building bridges, rather than do the exact things we get upset with “the other side” for doing. They certainly have me not rethinking my values, but certainly rethinking with whom I want to align for the greatest good of our people as a whole, regardless of political leanings.
Unfortunately the only common ground online right now is toxicity, group-think, and mutual hostility. That said, I honestly think outreach to most people on the right is a waste of time, at least online. I’ve tried to educate people for so long but the cult mentality is too strong to overcome. Maybe a more relationship-centered approach could work, I haven’t tried this. But that would take a huge amount of energy and effort.
You’re generally right about group-think and hostility, but the couple of good-faith exchanges I had with right wingers may have gotten a couple of snarky replies (maybe pre-emptive defense from being heavily attacked, prior?) but also half-hearted attempts at engagement and addressing my points until the “progressives” came in and did what they do. It’s sad, I don’t even want to alienate others, preemptively, by calling myself that. Leftist definitely does that. And I’m probably some conglomeration of leftist and libertarian (in the global sense, not the Yankee sense) with a sprinkling of anarchism, somewhere in the mix. I’m not sure yet. I’m not exactly in the process of changing my core values, more somewhat refining them into a more mature form. It’s not quite personal anomie, but I haven’t found my solid footing yet on the shifting ground beneath them.
Anyway, thank you for a bit of understanding. I appreciate it more than you know.
There are plenty of conservative spaces online and it’s exceedingly rare where “good faith” and “rational” conversations are possible.
The fact that this one is a satire of that and folks are upset is hilarious to me
That wasn’t the sh.itjust.works or lemm.ee conservative communities.
Is there something weird with shitjustworks
No. Great instance. Great admins. No one should be bringing in the shitjustworks instance into this drama. The admins there are amazing.
What’s the actual lore here?
Universal Monk was a prolific poster around election time; he had tons of alt accounts that all posted stuff purposely made to divide the left.
After his accounts all got banned for trolling and evasion, he started up the Donald J Musk accounts and repeated the cycle, this time posting far-right fascist content and trolling people with lies, disinfo, and general unpleasantness.
It’s been an open secret for a while that they were the same user based on the MO, but apparently he fucked up and reused a comment.
Their favourite m.o. during election season was sealioning and concern trolling, as well as baiting people into breaking the civility rule and then reporting them. It seemed to me like they were taking pleasure from skirting around the letter of the law while violating the spirit of it.
It was completely incredible at the time that they went on for months without getting banned.
The fact that [email protected] had to be created still baffles me
As a big Umphrees McGee fan, who had previously blocked and forgot about UniversalMonk, seeing a bunch of posts talking smack about UM really threw me for a loop when it got real bad haha.
who had previously blocked and forgot about UniversalMonk
And if more people did that, we wouldn’t have to have entire threads like this. People follow me around rather than block me. It’s weird. lol
Tbh, it appears to me the guy is in serious mental health crisis. Social isolation isn’t great without mh support and tends to exacerbate issues. I’m wondering if it’s simply not affordably accessible to them or if it is and they broke so completely they failed to see the necessity. I remember a post they made about breaking up with their gf and that’s when the alt-right accounts became highly visible to me.
He also posted about being happily married; there’s really no way to know the truth about a serial liar like UM.
Although he has serious “50-something-divorced-guy” energy. If I had to guess, his kids and ex hate him for being a right-wing scumbag and this is how he takes out his anger.
The only thing we need to guess, impo, is he’s in serious mh crisis and pushing him toward suicide or mass shooting isn’t a solution. Ignore or block should leave him the option of seeking professional help or spiralling of his own doing, not ours.
It also leaves open the option to keep being a racist, transphobic, fascist troll though, which will leave the door open to becoming a Nazi bar.
I understand where you’re coming from, but it’s not my responsibility to play nice with the people who are attacking the people I love and those like them.
Trolls should be made to feel unwelcome until they change their behavior.
We disagree. Unless we’re moderators, it’s not our job and focusing on other’s demons too much means we’re ignoring our own. Something about the abyss staring back, but that’s the beauty of the fediverse. Just like you don’t get to tell me what to do, I don’t get to tell you. I would only urge you to do some soul -searching and follow your best impulses, while waiting to serve the worst or questionable. There are other options such as utilizing block/report.
Sure, if that’s what works for you.
But I don’t want to see Lemmy turn into a trash site like Reddit, where the worst and loudest are free to harass, provoke, and lie without consequences.
This user has literally dozens of alts he uses to get around bans, so I don’t see unilateral disarmament as a way to keep this particular fascist in check.
Kind words. But misplaced. I’m not in crisis. Still good words though and people should listen to you. Just not about me.
attacking the people I love and those like them.
I’ve never attacked anyone. Please post any proof that I advocate violence in any form. I’m a socialist.
Social isolation
I’m not socially isolated though. And the gf I broke up with wasn’t an emotional post. I was talking about how she was too clingy and was mad that I dated other girls. There was nothing sad about it at all. Please post the actual comment.
After his accounts all got banned for trolling and evasion
What accounts? I don’t have any other accounts except for Universal Monk. And I haven’t been banned. I’m still here posting. As you can see. My post and comment history is public.
People are mad because I voted for the Socialist Workers Party for the election (my post history on lemmy.world is public, so you can see for yourself). Yes, they are still mad.
I have no idea who the poster they banned is tho, but everyone here is saying it’s me. But that’s not me.
I’m not even a conservative. I’m Socialist.
It sounds like this guy actually believes themselves, dang
So where is this word-for-word duplicate comment? Can anyone link to it?
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And here I thought Lemmy was too small to have prominent trolls. Thanks for the head’s up.
Oh we had (have) loads.
You can always depend on someone having absolutely no life and an agenda to push endlessly.
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