• SokathHisEyesOpen
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    14010 months ago

    Agent Smith clarified that civilization progressed beyond 1999, but that it wasn’t human’s progress anymore.

    Agent Smith: “and I say ‘your’ civilization, because after we started thinking for you it became ‘our’ civilization.”

    • @[email protected]
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      4510 months ago

      When the world was extra ridiculous over the past decade I would always tell my friends/family "the Mayans were right, the real world ended in 2012, and we have been living in a fucked up facsimile of it ever since purely for the amusement of the Mayan gods. They want to see how much they can turn up the “ridiculousness” dial on the simulation until the planet quite literally explodes

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      Actually, the Mayan calendar stated that 2012 is the start of a new epoch under their date system, it never said anything about the world ending. The claim that they predicted the world ending was based on nothing but “indigenous mysticism” by white people and Hollywood.

      • Cronyx
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        1710 months ago

        Actually, the Mayan calendar stated that 2012 is the start of a new epoch

        The end of The Fifth Age and the beginning of the Sixth Age, the reawakening of the great dragons, and the start of goblinization, and the return of magic to the world.

        You know, basic Shadowrun lore XD

        • @[email protected]
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          710 months ago

          Still waiting for the magic, not sure if I want a deck port in my brain given how many add I see on my phone.

          • @[email protected]
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            07 months ago

            You don’t need to wait for magic. You can just go train with some tibetan buddhists and you’ll have magic powers.

      • @octoperson
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        1310 months ago

        Given how the Mayans are usually portrayed as an ancient, vanished people, I was surprised to find out that if you want to know about Mayan beliefs you can just ask them. They’re the guys stood outside the archeological sites selling t-shirts.

        • @[email protected]
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          510 months ago

          The damn calendar was a circle.

          How damn hard was it to figure out?

          Also, completely hated by caledar companies - buy one calendar and it lasts forever.

      • @[email protected]
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        07 months ago

        Yeah but the world ending in 2012 had nothing to do with the Mayan calendar and everything to do with aliens destroying the moon and using it to end all life on Earth, just after scanning us all for re-creation in their matrix in the year 29000 AD

    • @[email protected]
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      07 months ago

      It’s good to find someone else who’s aware of this, and of our current state of existence.

  • @[email protected]
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    3410 months ago

    The machines did nothing wrong, it was mankind that caused Nuclear war. I would side with the machines in a heartbeat

    • RaivoKulli
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      1310 months ago

      The human battery concentration camp is kinda weird though

      • NirodhaAvidya
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        1410 months ago

        Humans as a power source was the dumbed-down plot point. The original concept was the human brains acting as parallel processors, but the writers thought the average movie-goer wouldn’t get it.

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            310 months ago

            A much more apt comparison, to begin with, would be between siding with humans or cows being used as food – because that’s what humans are to the machines, a way to stay alive. Second, humans have proved time and time again that they can’t be trusted, going as far as ruining the entire planet in fear of the machines – WHO WERE TRYING PEACEFUL NEGOTIATION, mind you. Thirdly, despite not really needing to do so, the machines chose to minimize human suffering, even in the horrible position forced upon them. Ideally, I’d want them to collonize other planets and abandon Earth, if possible, but otherwise I’d be fine with them having a crack as the dominant species over humans.

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      Wasn’t the first iteration of the matrix a perfect utopia that blew up because the human mind ended up rejecting its programming?

      • @winterayars
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        3110 months ago

        It was The Architect’s vision of a perfect world, so given what we know of him it was probably a featureless box with a chair in the middle and you could sit there forever. No way that’s lasting long.

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          1510 months ago

          a featureless box with a chair in the middle and you could sit there forever. No way that’s lasting long.

          There is definitely a joke about silicon valley and maybe apple itself in here lol

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            310 months ago

            Well we do like to joke about mark being a robot maybe the trolls aren’t rong and there’s a reason why silicon valley is called silicon valley besides the technological advancements

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          Fun statement and all, but he clearly understood what humans wanted and needed. He just didn’t factor in that imperfect humans wouldn’t accept a society and life that were somehow perfect in spite of said humans. They en masse knew something felt off.

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        Yes, we still have some descriptions in the Genesis book of the Bible, release codename “Paradise”. If we are to trust the same source, there was another reset called “Noah’s Ark”.

        According to that, we’d be in at least the 3rd iteration.

        Unless… we’re actually dinosaurs IRL, the first reset was codename “Chicxulub”… and the machines have been iterating over who knows how many thousands of different versions, with the current one being an attempt at keeping those lizard brains controlled by… a software overlay codename “Consciousness” (WARNING: don’t let your lizard brain know, or both it, and you, will get terminated).

      • @[email protected]
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        410 months ago

        That’s what they want you to believe.

        No seriously: I might be wrong but do we know it’s true or can it just be something the machines told Neo?

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      410 months ago

      When we started doing the thinking for humans it became our civilization but then you just had us rendering sextillions of monkie pngs god im sick of that stupid ass pictures

  • @[email protected]
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    2910 months ago

    I still remember 1 Jan 2000. There did seem to be some sense of optimism about where things could go. At least for those of us lucky enough to live in stable, developed countries.

    Cold war over, Russia and The West seemingly on the same side, China opening up, exciting new tech connecting us but no toxic social media yet…

    But then… the dot com bust, 9/11, the GFC, toxic social media and the rise of “the algorithm”, Xi in China, Putin in Russia, a global pandemic…

    Didn’t really go where we hoped, can we restore to a backup from 1999 and try again??

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    Dave Wiskus

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    The Matrix described 1999 as the peak of human civilization and I laughed because that would obviously not age well but then the next 23 years happened and now l’m like yeah okay maybe the machines had a point

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    2410 months ago

    Makes sense. Boomers were still young enough to be relevant. GenX was comfortable with their disposable income. And us millennials were in highschool.

    • SokathHisEyesOpen
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      2910 months ago

      GenX didn’t have much disposable income in 99, but you didn’t need much to have fun.

      • @winterayars
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        1710 months ago

        In 99 people were throwing cash around like crazy, it was a wild time (before the dotcom crash)

        • SokathHisEyesOpen
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          1410 months ago

          I guess the older Gen X could have been part of that. The younger ones were still finishing up college and just starting their careers when the economy crashed for the first, but not last time in their lives. The youngest ones joined the workforce just after the dot com bust.

      • Altima NEO
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        610 months ago

        Either way, childhood were blissful years in the 90s

          • @[email protected]
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            610 months ago

            You may be a millennial in spirit, which is what really counts, but I don’t think most people typically consider people born after ~1995 millennials. Being shaped by the years 2000-2010 I always felt was the defining factor, with all that happened technologically and socially.

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    2310 months ago

    And people wrote articles like this. And it wasn’t even completely ridiculous. And I still believe the world would be very different today if GWB hadn’t “won” the election.

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      610 months ago

      At least they were right about Java being bad.

    • @[email protected]
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      510 months ago

      Amazing how normal GWB seems after trump. Like i always thought GWB would always be remembered as the dumb president… but now i think he will be a forgotton one almost.

    • pewter
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      210 months ago

      I tried to Google translate that Lao text, I think it says “Finance Steam.”

      Anyone know what they mean by that?

      • @[email protected]
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        310 months ago

        I don’t know Lao, but I know finance and it’s probably a translation of The Long Boom.

  • @[email protected]
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    1810 months ago

    I literally just said this to my wife last week. So far, the timeline of The Matrix has tracked, lol.

  • @[email protected]
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    1710 months ago

    It was just the peak of the US, in some aspects anyway. With all my appreciation to all the good things that the US still does.

  • Flying Squid
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    1510 months ago

    While we’re on the subject of the Matrix… what happens if you take both pills?

    • @[email protected]
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      2710 months ago

      The story continues. You wake up in Wonderland and believe how deep the rabbit hole goes.

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          410 months ago

          Oh god how can I undigest a pill 😭 repressing was a mistake. Take the red pill mfers I don’t care what decision in your life you’re facing take the red pill. Self-honesty, truth, discovery, rigteousness. Don’t be a coward 😮‍💨

    • @[email protected]
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      610 months ago

      I recon it turns on noclipping you fall through the map but don’t trigger the homing becon in the real world

    • @[email protected]
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      610 months ago

      You do understand that, within the context of the film, the pills aren’t anything special right?

      • @[email protected]
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        1510 months ago

        Morpheus: The pill you took is part of a trace program. It’s designed to disrupt your input/output carrier signals so we can pinpoint your location.

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          The movie goes to great pains explaining the notion of experience versus reality within the context of ‘The Matrix’. As such we know that there is literally no pill; they do not exist. I guess it can be thought of as a ‘sudo’ for the trace program? Either way, I don’t believe anything is actually being initiated from or by the pill as we understand things. The operator is the one actually executing the program. Why would the operator choose to run a trace program and put someone to sleep? Just because Neo could potentially decide to take both pills?

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          310 months ago

          Robot 1: hey why did the server crash and what happened to all the humans. Other robot 2: eh looking at the error console it seems one of the humans ingested to contradictory virus pills causing a feedback loop that crashed the matrix servers and life support. We can turn the servers back on but there’s really no point without the humans. Robot 1: welp guess we could try going nuclear. Robot 2: you crazy your gonna kill us all with radiation not to mention the environmental damage just think about the tree matrix.

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        410 months ago

        I always thought they had a program for each choice, like one put them to sleep while the other one activated the tracer. Can’t recall the exact lines but I thought they only did the tracer after he accepted meaning it was meant as needed for that step. Could really be either but I always thought the tracer program needed some signal that would only work when the host body received it, or a signal the body was being purged. They were all hackers so maybe they didn’t need it but I assume they didn’t see all the data from their view just what the machines let them to continue on the cycles.

        I haven’t watched the newest one and 2/3 are a bit fuddeled in memory so I may have easily missed a line, or other lore with it. Anyways just explaining how someone may come to this conclusion even if it’s incorrect.

    • @[email protected]
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      210 months ago

      You eat the steak and are at peace and content with the fact it doesn’t actually exist.