As a Canadian, I’m incredibly disappointed in my government for supporting this genocide and settling of stolen land. We’re on the wrong side of history with this.
this genocide and settling of stolen land.
Guess they’re concerned they’d have to look inward a little?
Thing is, Canada has been looking inward. That’s what makes it worse.
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It’s so absolutely insane how Canada is happy to tout reconciliation with First Nations people and simultaneously support the genocide of an indigenous people.
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First Nations
I think they’re third-nations with all the discoveries of civilisations long buried.
Generally speaking if Germany votes in favour of this kind of resolution and you against, you done fucked up.
Yeah, why the fuck are we red?!?
Because Canada itself is an apartheid regime, and doesn’t want to set a “wrong” precedent.
Disappointed, sure, but I don’t think you should be surprised.
Canada was founded as a country specifically for the purpose of genocide. Virtually the entire country is on settled and stolen land. It would be hypocritical to be against someone else doing the same.
You could say the same about Australia and various Latin America countries, yet they still condemn Israel action.
You’re right, but there’s a reason why Canadians don’t talk about their “founding fathers” the way Americans do.
I don’t know how many other countries are the same way.
The first PM was explicitly racist against indigenous people, and IIRC, the country was explicitly founded on the basis of white supremacy over indigenous peoples.
That’s true for a lot of places, it’s just that Canadians recognize that.
Canada was founded more than 150 years ago. I’m surprised that in that intervening period, nothing has changed.
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What’s our problem, Canada?
Don’t want to piss off the downstairs neighbours.
The yapping dog of American Empire.
Even more than it used to be. Canadian foreign policy regarding Iraq, Vietnam, and Cuba took a very different position to the US and was on the whole quite good (for a western country). But that was all decades ago. Practically speaking, Canada no longer has its own independent foreign policy.
I mean, we’re still friends with Cuba, and never did get involved in Iraq which wasn’t so long ago.
Even Europe and Oceania is onboard with this one, though. Don’t they usually abstain at least?
Conservatives push up more to the US than UK
It’s why we can’t get support behind CANZUK
We’re just America’s hat, what do you expect
wow it’s actually not the exact same map
this seems like a modicum of progress
The crimes of the empire are so blatant now that even the vassals aren’t comfortable supporting them.
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I do think there is a growing realization in Europe that US has thrown them under the bus.
You are making the US seem cool calling it The Empire
if you think that empires are cool then don’t know what to say there
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Can’t be first time for you. Surely you’ve met people who are enthuastic about Roman Empire for example?
these people invariably fall on the fascist end of the political spectrum
Have you actually met these people in real life?
lots
The idea of a consolidated imperial core is in itself flawed and the idea itself is not applicable to all situations. Though definitely a useful point of view sometimes, using it unconditionally will only deny nuance and differences between core countries, which is not always helpful.
EDIT: Guessing this will probably get downvoted and/or ignored, but if anyone is actually willing to provide or cite some justification/explanation of the map in question, that would be great. Linking the Wikipedia article, whose map differs and has the reasoning of core countries as
They are usually recognized as wealthy states with a wide variety of resources and are in a favorable location compared to other states.
containing several points, which in total are inconsistent by leading to a false dichotomy, is not what I ask and not what I think a map of imperial core states should use for classification.
My reasoning for calling a consolidated core flawed is among other things because it is not taking into consideration the historic development and relationships between core states. Some classify, for example, Scotland as a semi-core due to these reasons.
https://lemmygrad.ml/c/alwaysthesamemap
lots of examples of what this map emoji means here
I particularly like this one of the countries that recognize Palestine, which is the inverse of the ‘same map’.
https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/f8d50ef2-6638-43e2-86e6-d1ece0d35add.png
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Good bot. This is important enough to be built into lemmy imo
No, this is not an explanation. For something as important as the imperial core, which you claim the map portrays, there needs to be an actual proper definition and reasoning behind it. Having a bunch of loosely corrolated maps is not it. The list of countries that recognize Palestine is also not a proper inverse.
I am just tired of seeing this map spammed. Once some even ridiculed others for not acknowledgeding it as the de facto definition of imperial core. I think this is especially bad due to having yet to see anyone actually putting any effort into analysis of why it looks like it does. Spewing unsubstantiated ideas is for the incoherent bourgeoisie and fascists.
It’s a meme (Moreover, the emote is named “international community” not “imperial core”).
Hexbear emotes are not rigorous theoretical statements. E.g.:
Hexbear emotes are not rigorous theoretical statements.
speak for yourself
No each map is explained on that comm. You assigning it ‘imperial core’ and asking for an explanation is some JAQing off sealioning imo. Theses maps correlate how interests of countries align around various issues, and the ‘same map’ comes up a lot because of how these same countries often agree on things in contrast to the the rest of the world. It’s not some socio-political theory, it’s just the reality of how these countries align into blocs that correlate with maintaining the current US hegemonic status quo.
The two maps that really ‘explained’ this concept for me were the map of countries that ‘condemn China’s treatment of Uyghur Muslims’ contrasted with the map of ‘countries that recognize Palestine’. It shows how this bloc of countries want to demonize China while supporting the ongoing genocide of Palestine’s indigenous peoples. The principles they espouse are unmasked in the light of the truth of this comparison.
Saying I am sealioning is an accusation and not an opinion besides also being wrong. Here is one in return: Acting like the map is not usually considered to portray the imperial core is intellectual dishonesty on your part.
Whotf talks like this anyway?
is an accusation and not an opinion besides also being wrong.
First you accuse me of sealioning and then you hide behind an “imo” like that is just your opinion. There is no such relativistic position on an objective matter. You are wrong to claim so and cowardly for disguising it as an opinion. With this in mind it does not surprise me that you stoop even lower with trying to berate me for my style of writing. Who tf acts like that?
debate pervert
Guessing this will probably get downvoted
We don’t have downvotes
You dont. We do.
Alright, enjoy!
Hexbear is also not the only leftist community on Reddit. None of you have still made an attempt to explain the image though, hence why I said and/or ignored.
Hexbear is also not the only leftist community on Reddit
yeah, there’s lemmygrad too
Yes, and as far as I know they still have down votes.
Hexbear is also not the only leftist community on Reddit.
What does that have to do with my reply to you?
Slapp helt av, vi er (heldigvis) ikke på reddit.
When I said ignored and/or downvoted I did not necessarily mean by Hexbear users, cue my comment following yours about you not having downvotes. Even so, what I originally meant with that is that much of my experience in trying to engage on this issue have been marked with, what I deem, unnecessary hostility.
Had this been on Reddit I would not be engaging in conversation at all above using memes as language.
Okay.
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Wrong site ya doof
Oh no, I made a mistake. Who cares?
What is Hungary doing, compensating for its stance on Ukraine ?
Being the thorn in everyone’s eye so everyone keeps paying us
Owning the EU libs, as Hungary do.
Viktor gets the slush funds from Russia and the spyware from Israel it makes sense for him
The settlements have always been recognized as illegal, but I guess its good to reaffirm it.
Its a war crime to move a civilian population into a military occupied region. This crime has been ongoing for decades.
Jesus fucking Christ even a majority of the anglosphere is opposing Isntrael
Times are a’changing
Fuck, Canada you keep embarrassing me recently.
We have some populists roping in the hillbillies right now. It’s amazing how well they’re weaponizing stupid and pushing our PM around.
Dude fr idk what our government’s foreign policy goals even are.
You know it’s bad when even Germany is getting wise to the game
Yet Canada isn’t
To be fair, they had a Nazi in their parliament much more recently than the Germans had
lmao even slava ukrani voted for it.
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Woohoo … Yeah … Canada vo … ???.. What the hell!
Apartheid regimes stick together. Canada did to First Nations what Israel aims to do to Palestinians.
Surprising Australia voted in favour this time
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The U.S spends more on military than the next 7 countries combined. It’d put up a good fight. Probably conquer Canada/Mexico in hours (I’d assume they would just concede the same way Paris/France conceded to the Nazis in WW2), and then we’d also have the advantage in Eurasia. We could nuke most of western Europe, and the only country that could really stop us is Russia because they also have a comparable number of nukes. If we successfully disarm them and are the sole nuclear super power in the world, I could see the U.S winning ww3 and becoming a global government.
We
USians stop identifying with those who rule over you Challenge Rating: um ackshully
If we successfully disarm them and are the sole nuclear super power in the world,
Sounds super easy
We need a
but with like a helmet on for people like thisI don’t support the U.S, and yeah I’ve been actively trying to move away from identifying as part of the U.S. Notice the first time I referred to it in my comment I called it “it”. Just a habit, sorry if I offended you though, that wasn’t my intention.
The main issue is if I say “they” instead of “we”, the vast majority of the internet assumes you’re from Europe. I want to convey I live in the United States without identifying as part of it.
The pentagon pays $5000 on a simple trash can. Paying more money is not a good thing. A f35 costs like $75 million dollars to build and they spend almost half their existence unable to fly.
USA’s military budget is 90% graft.
Lol
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The next seven countries combined (the next eleven, in fact) are all in green in the above map. #12 is Canada, and every other country is either supporting this resolution or abstaining. The US could well win a third world war but it wouldn’t happen the way you say. Nukes won’t be used in conflicts by nation-states, only (and hopefully not) by rogue groups that get their hands on one. Nukes are a deterrent nowadays rather than a weapon.
Canada is also still under the monarchy so it’s not like we could side with America against the world
I don’t trust that the U.S will always do the right thing with nukes. Maybe you have unwavering faith in the good heart of the imperialist core to never use nukes in conflicts, I’m not as trusting.
Wait the UK voted in favour? Literally just yesterday they were whining about Pro Palestinian marches in London. Then a bunch of right wing fuck nuggets turned up to fight to the pro Palestinian marches, except they turned up in the wrong place and ended up fighting the police instead.
I guess they realise their position is untenable on that point. The general public hate them and they know it.
They are not condemning Israel for the current assault on Gaza. They are condemning Israel for the settlements (which is a blatant war crime that has long been criticized by every country except Israel and the US iirc.
They are condemning Israel for the settlements
The illegal settlements that are one of the contributing factors that led to Hamas growing in support.
It’s becoming impossible to spin this as anything other than a genocide that the west is facilitating at this point.
I’m not sure this has any practical application. 6 years ago it passed 155-7.
Citing it helps people understand the historical context when learning about what’s actually going on there
I guess so, and provides truth in contrast to exclusively hearing a narrative.
Okay, now what are they going to do about it?
