Not the same thing. An essential worker was somebody doing a job needed for society to continue. That includes both skilled (years of training) jobs and unskilled (a week or two at most before you can do it) jobs.
No that money needs to go to coke addled morons with degrees in cognitive dissonance who spend their days fucking children and gambling in ways that can crash the global economy. Also ceo’s that make the worst possible decisions.
People who feed you are doing grunt work? People who take your garbage away too? You gave just dismissed two groups of people whose jobs are vital to your wellbeing.
The problem with your thinking is it’s actually not thinking at all.
Yes. People who do jobs that take minimal training and who could be replaced in a week are doing grunt work. That’s the difference between skilled and unskilled. Do you need to go through years of training to do your job? Congratulations, you’re not as replaceable as the guy who was trained in 2 days by a high school dropout.
Cool. So if everyone Learns To Code because that’s the only way to deserve an actual living, who does the essential but unskilled jobs then? Oh I get it, you’re advocating for labour immigration. Cool.
So you want labour shortages (and/or strikes because that’s the other way to effect a supply shortage) for a while to hurt the economy before The Market finds a way to pay the people it wants to consume their way to infinite growth
Although, what does a corporate lawyer, wall street gambler, CEO, or congressman really contribute to society? Except stimulating the therapy industry with all the kids they fuck?
They are negative contributors because they hoard money. Other people actually contribute to the economy by spending money.
Oh, yeah, and every 10 years the markets crash because they’ve managed to repeal banking regulations or have accumulated too much risk to survive a significant downturn. Then the federal government bails them out?
I’m against genocide, and believe it should be stopped by any means possible as fast as possible, and the lives of those committing it should not be considered. They don’t necessarily all need to die, but enough of them need to die to stop it, and their lives are beneath consideration. I think ‘hamas’ are dicks who mostly don’t matter. They killed a handful of genocidal monsters, but they treat queer people like shit, so it’s about break-even morally. Doubt we’d get along.
Why are you bringing shit from other threads in here?
Uh, there was a whole family by that name on my street growing up. The dad was I think a finance guy. The mom was some ghoulish silicon valley law botherer.
Was McDonald’s and Starbucks really necessary for society to continue? And if it is: They should definitely be paid a lot more just for that, let alone the minimum necessary to survive (which they don’t get).
Maybe if, in the days of being able to look up almost literally any recipe on planet earth, as well as endless catalogues of cooking tutorials, a person cannot manage to mangle together enough food to not starve to death without McDonald’s sustaining them, then this person is simply taking their Darwin award?
Not the same thing. An essential worker was somebody doing a job needed for society to continue. That includes both skilled (years of training) jobs and unskilled (a week or two at most before you can do it) jobs.
If their job is essential for the continuation of society, maybe we should pay them more?
No that money needs to go to coke addled morons with degrees in cognitive dissonance who spend their days fucking children and gambling in ways that can crash the global economy. Also ceo’s that make the worst possible decisions.
The problem is that ANYBODY can do it. Why pay a premium for grunt work?
People who feed you are doing grunt work? People who take your garbage away too? You gave just dismissed two groups of people whose jobs are vital to your wellbeing.
The problem with your thinking is it’s actually not thinking at all.
to be fair it is grunt work compared to your average office job.
doesnt make them any less deserving at all of a fair living though.
Office jobs are the easiest jobs I’ve ever had. The more I make, the less work I actually have to do.
Weird how the heirarchy works.
i resent this a lot, some of my superiors earned way way more but knew less of how things worked and did a lot less work, so infuriating.
Yes. People who do jobs that take minimal training and who could be replaced in a week are doing grunt work. That’s the difference between skilled and unskilled. Do you need to go through years of training to do your job? Congratulations, you’re not as replaceable as the guy who was trained in 2 days by a high school dropout.
Cool. So if everyone Learns To Code because that’s the only way to deserve an actual living, who does the essential but unskilled jobs then? Oh I get it, you’re advocating for labour immigration. Cool.
Supply and demand. The supply reduced so wages went up but only as much as demand required. If you want more money be more valuable.
So you want labour shortages (and/or strikes because that’s the other way to effect a supply shortage) for a while to hurt the economy before The Market finds a way to pay the people it wants to consume their way to infinite growth
What a weirdly planned economy
Well, we could skip the labor shortage until wages increase by increasing wages right away.
We simply don’t have a perfect market, which would be required for supply and demand to regulate without hiccups.
Except “nobody wants to work anymore” i.e. you can’t actually replace them that easily.
It’s shrodingers labor! All arguments exist until you need one and then the argument becomes what you need most in that moment!
So it literally is the same thing then.
You are the joke in the post.
because necessary work deserves the person doing it to survive.
rice is essential. should it be more expensive than caviar?
edit: I misread more as in more than the non-essential.
We’re comparing people’s ability to survive with the price of mass produced food?
That isn’t the argument. The argument is that they should be paid a living wage, not that they should be paid more than anybody else.
Although, what does a corporate lawyer, wall street gambler, CEO, or congressman really contribute to society? Except stimulating the therapy industry with all the kids they fuck?
They are negative contributors because they hoard money. Other people actually contribute to the economy by spending money.
Oh, yeah, and every 10 years the markets crash because they’ve managed to repeal banking regulations or have accumulated too much risk to survive a significant downturn. Then the federal government bails them out?
ah I see. I miss read “more.”
I may have had a strong buzz at the time.
Ah, so you liken people you deem less than you to inanimate objects, cool
Not what the classist asshole who probably deserves the wall did here, and you know it.
That’s literally what he did, yes. You support Hamas so your opinions are invalid anyways.
I’m against genocide, and believe it should be stopped by any means possible as fast as possible, and the lives of those committing it should not be considered. They don’t necessarily all need to die, but enough of them need to die to stop it, and their lives are beneath consideration. I think ‘hamas’ are dicks who mostly don’t matter. They killed a handful of genocidal monsters, but they treat queer people like shit, so it’s about break-even morally. Doubt we’d get along.
Why are you bringing shit from other threads in here?
Because it invalidates your opinion on everything, imo. Shows a lack of critical thinking and shows you think you know more than you actually do.
Fuck off you genocidal asshole.
Rice is not a person.
Uh, there was a whole family by that name on my street growing up. The dad was I think a finance guy. The mom was some ghoulish silicon valley law botherer.
I dont know. Does it have to pay rent?
Was McDonald’s and Starbucks really necessary for society to continue? And if it is: They should definitely be paid a lot more just for that, let alone the minimum necessary to survive (which they don’t get).
Probably not, but there’s a lot of people who don’t know how to make any food at all. Close the fast food restaurants and they starve.
Maybe if, in the days of being able to look up almost literally any recipe on planet earth, as well as endless catalogues of cooking tutorials, a person cannot manage to mangle together enough food to not starve to death without McDonald’s sustaining them, then this person is simply taking their Darwin award?
You don’t even need a recipe. You can walk into any supermarket or deli and buy a meal in a can or a box.
What if they can’t figure out how to open the can or box?