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    Swimming’s really good for losing weight, no sweating and less knee pain involved. Wish I had a private pool too, you can definitely tell the public ones are 30% filled with piss.

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      I find it funny that there is an acceptable level or urea in a pool and it’s like 10% lol

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        This is sort of how everything works, unfortunately! Guaranteeing 0% of something is really hard. Your flour probably has a small percentage of bugs in it, for instance. Urea is a relatively small molecule that I imagine you can find tiny amounts of pretty much anywhere. I would be unsurprised if there was at least one molecule of urea in literally anything you eat!

        That said, dear god I hope I’ve never been in a pool that’s 10% urine :(. Those kiddie pools at the water park are probably like 90% urine, though. Sometimes I wonder if by volume adults pee in the pool more than kids, though. I have a suspicion a good chunk of adults think it’s fine or will do it secretly anyway.

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          It’s not even unfortunate. We’re a lot more robust than we think we are. We have two sets of organs designed to filter shit we consume out of us, and in quantities less than a certain amount, whatever it is isn’t noticeable. Also, chemicals used in public pools are designed to neutralize things like that. If the water isn’t noticeably tinged, you won’t even know the difference.

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            Unfortunate in the sense that it just feels kind of gross is all I mean :). Of course this stuff is unlikely to cause any physical harm to somebody.

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              That’s fair. I wasn’t trying to poke at you, it’s just one of the things that fascinates me. The dose always makes the poison, for everything from arsenic to water itself.

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      I would imagine a private pool would be annoyingly small to exercise in, only ever seen one that seemed big enough and that one was way too expensive for any normal person to ever afford. Every other one has been more like for chilling in.

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        Unless I’m misunderstanding you, or there are only extremely tiny pools in your region, any private pool should be big enough to exercise in. You don’t have to be pulling Phelps-level breaststroke times in an Olympic pool; even just treading water is a great exercise. That’s kind of what it seemed like OOP was doing, anyway. Sure you won’t get ripped, but that’s pretty impossible already unless you’re at competitive levels.

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          Olympic pools are 50x25m, public pools here tend to be 25x12.50 or 16.6 (5 vs. 6-lane). And as I can actually swim, no, having to turn every three strokes is not an option. In a backyard-sized pool you don’t even get to swimming until after you turn: Start jump, dive, bonk your head on the other side before even surfacing.

          Sure you can pace up and down an elevator cabin and call it exercise but don’t be surprised if runners are underwhelmed.

          That said, having a pool with lanes is not at all necessary for exercise. Water park like situations tend to be superior if you’re not trying for lap times, I’d say.

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          Ive not really seen private ones bigger than like 10m , usually closer to 5-7 i would think. Maybe Im spoiled by my 50m community one but I would find it annoying in 10m, I even take the 30 minutes extra trip to go to 50 instead of 25 and I am a beginner swimmer, ill go once or twice a month, do about a 1.5-2k in 60 mins.

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            Yeah you’re actually swimming, going distance. That’d be miserable in a small private pool, for sure. What others are saying is that that isn’t the only type of exercise you can do in water to burn a ton of calories, and those other types can be easily done in a private pool.

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              Fair enough, did not consider that since I only ever go in the pool to swim.

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    Your metabolic rate can be several times higher in a pool or other body of water than it is on land without any exercise at all. Body heat is lost at a much higher rate when you are submerged in water and your body will burn more fuel to maintain core temperature.

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    Swimming is amazing for the elderly as well as the heavily obese. Buoyancy takes all the load off joints/cartilage and significantly reduces wear or arthritic pain while still providing consistent, firm resistance to movement that burns calories.

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      In Iceland all the public pools are full of old people. Due to geothermal energy, all outdoor pools in Iceland are heated, even in winter. I think it’s a really great public health program honestly.

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      Or the wherewithal for and availability of a public one

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        That immediately increases the time investment required for use. The whole point of the post is that it’s easy because it’s in their back yard. Public pools aren’t relevant here.

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          Depends on your situation (the availability). I have one in my neighborhood, so it’s literally 8 minutes from my house to being showered off and in the pool. I’ve been to some people’s houses where it takes almost that long to navigate the backyard.

          I don’t think my situation is just some happenstance, either. I think it’s not a huge investment for an incredible health and social return anywhere (desert climates possibly excepted? I’m not sure what the environmental impact is, especially compared with a potential reduction in personal pools built/maintained). Every neighborhood should have a pool reachable within 15 minutes and residents should petition for it if there isn’t one, imo. Petitioning obviously isn’t easy, but it’s easier than you’d think

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            You might be underestimating the impact of mental illness, or of being incredibly obese, on actually getting anywhere. I agree with you, that pool is really close. But these issues make it feel impossibly far away. It’s stupid, but it is what it is, and that’s why we have therapy. If you can afford it.

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              You’re right, obesity might play a larger role in making that difficult than I was factoring in. I think a significant hurdle is also wearing wet bathing clothes in public/finding public appropriate clothes. I do also think that increasing public pools can do a lot to prevent obesity, but in extant cases, it might not be that helpful.

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        Well first you need to own a house with enough yard space so that immediately excludes a majority of the population

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          The lowest percentage I could find for individuals with access to yards is 60%, which aligns with the the percentage of individuals who live in apartments at 35%. I wouldn’t call 35% a vast majority, and even then some of that portion have community pools in their apartment complex.

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      Ehhh, rich isn’t really applicable. Someone with good income and good debt management skills can have a pool. You don’t have to be “rich”, which is a pretty vague word that’s very subjective.

      I have friends that make very good money, and have the freedom to decide what their debt goes to. Nice house, nice cars, but if their income goes away, they’re fucked because the debt doesn’t magically disappear when the income does. To me, that’s not rich. Rich is when you have enough resources that a change in income doesn’t fuck you over.

      Now, some people would say that the ability to choose what debt goes to is rich. I can see that usage being just as valid. I sure as hell can’t decide what my debt goes to, it has to go only to survival needs. I can’t take on debt for funsies like a pool, at least not in any amount that’s significant (so, nothing big as a pool, but maybe enough for switching out an appliance that isn’t dead, as an example).

      For real, pools can be had with relatively low incomes. They cost about the same as a car for in-ground (a new car, not something lightly used lol). You don’t have to be in six figure income brackets to have one. Do I think it’s dumber than dammit to do so if you don’t? Yes, but it’s still possible as long as you want something basic

      If an above ground is applicable, and it can be for light exercise, you can get by with as little as a grand. Which ain’t cheap, bit it’s a debt most people in the typical “middle class” income range can manage at some point, if it’s a priority.

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          Good luck avoiding it. Need transportation? You’re going to end up in debt. Want to own a home? Debt.

          It sucks, but if you want anything resembling a functional life, it’s damn near impossible to avoid all debt. And, the less income you have, the harder it is. Try getting through life debt free on disability income. You can’t.

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              What? I was responding to what you said. I didn’t move shit, you were talking about it being some kind of weird shit to know that debt is a forgone conclusion. You’re the one that shifted the focus of the discussion

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        They cost about the same as a car for in-ground (a new car, not something lightly used lol). You don’t have to be in six figure income brackets to have one.

        People with less than 6figure income aren’t spending as much as a new car on a backyard in ground pool. Where do you think they have the cash for that? What bank is going to loan them the funds? Hilarious you think it’s possible in this economy.

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          I know people that have done it. It is completely possible. It’s dumber than dammit, as I said, but I know two people that have in ground pools right now that weren’t there this time last year. Neither cost more than 30k finished. One did it via an equity loan (again, dumb), the other via whatever company that did the pool (again, dumb).

          The ones with the equity loan have a household income right at 80k total. The other hovers right around 60k.

          Both have prefect credit though. Both waited and planned.

          Is either pool fancy? No. Pretty damn basic, but that’s not important. What’s important is that it doesn’t require parents paying for it. We’re talking people that are middle aged, and their parents are too old to give a damn about a pool anyway.

          And, if you’re going to be a dick about it, you can suck mine.

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            It used to be completely possible for a median income household to have a pool. I don’t get why this thread is so hostile to your bland take tbh. House = loan, new appliances = loan, remodel = loan. These are things that the middle class has historically been able to afford via credit and it was normal.

            Would I take on a loan for a pool in this economy even with good pay? Absolutely not. 100k is the new 50k and it sucks.

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              I can afford appliances and even a car without a loan, but a pool? Fuck no. That’s rich people shit.

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      Pool = rich, got it. By the way, they start at around 100 $.

      You can also go to public places for swimming. Some of those completely for free.

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        You must be brain dead if you legitimately believe all you need is 100$. What about the place to put it? Most people don’t own their property, and if they do, many don’t have space for one.

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        Webp is just a more data efficient format, lots of sites are switching to it because it can greatly decrease bandwidth and storage costs.

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          The only problem is that basically no software supports it, so if you’re saving pictures for a slideshow or something, webp is impossible to use.

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            Yeah, what is up with that?

            Most photo software supports so many formats, and it is not like webp is a brand new one. It is also widely used on the internet by this point.

            Why does it take so long to get support on any of them without installing a separate plugin?

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              WebP was shoehorned in by Google through Chrome. Other browsers felt pressured to support it as to not be left behind. Other software didn’t feel as pressured and is still resisting adding support to this day. Same thing with WebM.

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        I’m on the upper end of generation Z and I’ve never heard or seen webp at all. .jpg is the one I’ve seen used.

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        I was going to reply with a .jxl meme, but it turns out Lemmy doesn’t support it, which is a genuinely better .jxl joke than anything I would’ve made.

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      That was my first thought, lol. Anon’s folks prepared healthy meals for them.

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    Jokes aside now anon’s gotta make sure to use sunscreen, or he’s only trading in one killer for another.

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        That would be a 7500 calorie deficit every day. Not possible.

        Even if we assume half of that is water weight, still hardly possible

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          Yep. Assuming 180cm that’s at least 60kg too much, assuming 170cm 70kg.

          But that’s all rather iffy health-wise underbelly fat is the worst thing for men and as people have different patterns of fat distributions weight is not a particularly accurate individual proxy for health impact. Rule of thumb is that if your waist circumference is over a meter you should worry. Body fat percentage is even more accurate but who can measure that at home.