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Why remake perfection?
I wouldn’t hate the pixel treatment the FF games got. I am playing through FF1 and have the other 5 on tap. I played the intro to FF6 and the changes are a real QOL improvement.
Completely agree with this. I played through all FF Pixel Remasters and it was great. Would love a Chrono Trigger Pixel Remaster so I don’t have to bust out an emulator when I want to play it again.
None of the re releases or remasters can give me the dose of true nostalgia known as vanish-doom. Every game ever should have a definitive version that won’t need emulation though.
There’s already a Chrono trigger remake with the original graphics on steam. It has FMV scenes and the controls are kind of shit so it’s not exactly like the pixel remasters but you don’t need an emulator
It would be super cool if they release an anime series like Ys 1&2 have.
Add that as a DLC and increase resolution of sprites and increase bitrate of music and call it a day. I’d buy that.
Too bad the art direction in Pixel Remasters is so inconsistent and garbage.
I would love to have the same story but more fleshed out appropriate to the character. Add way more exploration of the eras. Maybe a couple more playable characters that are already established in the game like Schala or Azala or one of the gurus in their younger form.
Because a huge group of current gamers weren’t born yet back then.
Release it as is. (DS version)
It’s already on Steam. It’s on PSN. It’s probably on Xbox and switch, too. It works just fine. There is absolutely no reason to remake this.
It plays best on an emulator for anyone asking.
Then just release one of those… again!
Stop! You’re getting Bethesda all sweaty!
I’d buy it!!!
But for fuck sake replace the reptite village they added in the DS version with something enjoyable. One of the most tedious sequences I’ve ever suffered through.
Money.
A different, coherent story, better art (not pixel), more challenging gameplay.
Try to keep some of the same feelings. Keep it menu based. Keep it isometric.
Invest in writers and art. The gameplay doesn’t need to be complicated.
Better Art (Not Pixel)
Better story
Better gameplay
Shots fired. Just admit you’re not a fan of it and move on.
There is a reason it still tops the best JRPG lists of all time, and it ain’t nostalgia.
They did what they could with 90s technology, and it was amazing at the time. If they could have done it in Studio Ghibli style, they would have.
We have more opportunities now with better technology, but we keep aiming at the wrong things. We don’t need a 3d, first person world. We don’t need more arpgs, and we don’t need pixel art.
Show 30 years of improvement in the parts that made it strong originally.
I’m absolutely a fan. I just don’t think it is the pinnacle of what can be done now.
An actual turn-based system for slow idiots like me
That was a setting option if I’m not crazy
What would “chrono” refer to if not the combat system? They’d have to title the remake “Trigger.” Abominable.
The time travel?
A minor plot point. Barely even mentioned.
Can’t tell if you’re trolling but I’m fairly certain it’s the entire plot point of the freaking game
Nah.
As a person who is bad at reading sarcasm on the internet, this is sarcasm. It’s pretty funny too ^^
Well, the main character’s name is Crono, so they could just drop the h.
In that case, people would mistakenly believe the game is about tending fields and rightfully choose Stardew Valley. An insurmountable problem.
Easy solution, add some fields to tend.
You risk denying Robo his shrine.
Let me explore 1999 AD before Lavos attack. I want to see the cities and get to know their culture before the apocalypse.
I’d love to see Magus’s rise to power in the middle ages as well.
Make a different game? Stop remaking shit. Make a new story.
This. There’s already half a dozen Chrono trigger remakes. I want a sequel. And no, Chrono cross isn’t good enough.
I’m not a 2D purist. Quite the opposite actually. But Chrono Trigger really feels perfect for 2D. Kinda like Golden Sun. Like, you could try. But why?
It’s like trying to cook a tender well done steak. Like you can if you want. Some people might say they prefer it that way. But the truth that if you want it tender, you should have just ordered it rare or medium rare.
Well I am surprised no one has mentioned this but:
This is the best possible JRPG to do a retcon/reimagining of as is going on with FF7, but a bit differently.
Time travel!
So, start a new story with new characters, but intermix this with the old cast and story beats resulting in a completely new story that brings back old favorite settings and characters, introduces new ones.
Maybe you change significant plot points of the old story, maybe you don’t, maybe you doom the world to some entirely new kind of catastrophe, maybe you get stuck in what would otherwise be called a soft lock but is actually in this world an intentional plot device that just looks like a soft lock but isnt.
Hell, if you /really/ want to go hog wild with this:
Make the new set of characters generally opposed to the original set of characters, have their own method of time travelling, and make it so much of the game is actually about attempting to out-time-travel-wit the others, basically with certain characters attempting to be time demons ala DB Xenoverse and others trying to stop them… all mixed with the narrative possibilities at many points for many characters to switch allegiances, go rogue, or mostly team up.
even moooore possible endings
No I have no clue how you could actually write something this complicated, but the entirety of Kingdom Hearts exists and people tell me somehow that all makes sense, so I am confident a team of competent writers can pull off an absurdly complex multivariate story line.
Make the new set of characters generally opposed to the original set of characters
Chrono Triggered
Isn’t this what they did in Chrono Cross?
Normally I’m a fan of not messing with perfection, but adding content to integrate Chrono Cross and Radical Dreamers better would be nice.
I do not actually know as this is the first time I am even hearing of Chrono Cross.
Youre telling me theres a sequel?!?!?
I only ever managed to play Chrono Trigger on ZNES something like 20 years ago and remember being blown away by how different and more interesting it was from basically every other JRPG up to that point.
Now I must find this sequel.
Sorry for the late reply (no push notifications yet on Sync for Lemmy).
Chrono Cross came out on the PS1. It delt more with alternate realities but it did connect to the original Chrono Trigger. If you get the Chrono Cross remaster released a few years back, it not only contains Chrono Cross but the Novelization that came between Cross and Trigger known as Radical Dreamers. It helps “stitch” the two games together and helps the plot/ending make more sense.
I don’t want to spoil it, but you will come across a few characters from both games in Cross.
There are even some characters that make an appearance in both games.
You’ve come up with a neat game. I’d enjoy playing it. I think you’ve moved beyond remake and into sequel territory, though. The multiple parties working at odds reminds me of the Golden Sun series.
I realized after writing this all out that it was closer to a sequel than a remake but… oh well, I thought it was a neat idea nonetheless.
And yes now that you mention it this is actually similar to the Golden Sun series irt the dueling groups of protagonists (antagonists?), but I swear I did not realize this and was going more from the DB Xenoverse time demon angle.
For whatever it’s worth, even if elements of the plot have been recognized as Good Story TM already by other games, that doesn’t take away from your idea. Tropes become tropes because people like them. Who knows if you’ll ever get to work on this particular idea you’ve had, but from hearing your idea I feel like you have that sort of knack for good story beats that a writer needs.
It would depend on the skill of the team doing it. A lot of people are praising the FF7 remake even though the gameplay is completely different because of not only how it builds upon and unites all the lore that exists, but how it expands it and subverts expections, and it can only do this when it isn’t just a remake cash grab.
What I want in a Chrono Trigger remake is rather than asking us, asking the original visionaries that created it what they would want to add into it if they created it today, and to put in the effort into making and ensuring that vision works out.
Preferably don’t. But if you had to, perhaps a 3d version using unreal but with the style of the box art.
Same. Chrono Trigger holds surprisingly well. It’s art, music, gameplay, story. Everything. It doesn’t need a remake.
I remember being so hyped for this… And then it got C&D’d
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This is what I came here looking for.
If they make this a full game they can take my money.
I’d like nintendo to not have a single scrap to do with it.
Square made Chrono Trigger. Nintendo didn’t have anything to do with it in the first place.
And the 👑 would like to keep it the way
oh I know. I just don’t want nintendo to get their paws on it again.
chrono trigger was a game developed by a fantastic supergroup of talented individuals. it’s still my favorite rpg all these years later because of that effort and skill.
just… please don’t put it on switch. please.
TBH, I feel that widescreen and all the DS content will be sufficient. If it must be in 3D, maybe a Octopath Traveler like 3D Design.
I remember the PS1 version when it came out with the animated cutscenes and loving it as simple, sparse, and incomplete as they were. The game was no different but there were bonus little scenes. That worked for me.
So I would love to see animated renderings based on the actual playthrough doing the things you did and how you did them in the game.
As these remakes and such come out I have been able to reflect on what more I would have wanted back in 1995. And today all I want would be the memory of what my choices were my first playthrough. Or any one after that really. I’d love just about any data at all on them, to get saved somehow.
Show me what the final timeline looks like with all my gameplay choices. Render important scenes with every combination of party member using things they used in the run.
I’d love the shit out of that.
If they absolutely had to remake it, make it the ultimate love letter to fans. Call up Toriyama-san, get him directing artists to make the updated 3D character models, allow players to switch between old and new OSTs, if they’re not going to do a complete open world 3D overhaul then allow players to toggle between old and new graphics if it’s more of a remaster than a remake, update the motorcycle race so that Johnny doesn’t psychically know where you are at all times to bounce you 1000 times, fix some of the endgame stuff with the Black Omen so that it’s not just a repetitive dungeon you do 4x, but has more impact on the world.
Dunno, couple of ideas off the top of my head. OG Chrono Trigger still plays so well, the sprites are perfect, the OST is s-tier, and if it’s not the best it’s easily in the top 3 best 16-bit RPGs.
Call up Toriyama-san
Hate to break it to you, but he passed away a few days before you made this comment.
Make. Crono. Talk.
But srsly, moar side quests. Connect and collab with fan-made 3D remake people.
