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A short video still featuring a woman with blonde hair and a text overlay that reads “Things I prefer in the US as a German” with American and German flag emojis, and further states “I don’t know why we don’t have bagels in Germany.”

Above this, the social media post caption reads “I can think of a reason!” The post is from “Vikram Bath @vikrambath.bsky.social.”

    • @[email protected]
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      331 month ago

      And a staple of a New York Classic, the Breakfast Sandwich! New Yorkers might pick fights over how other cities do their pizza and hotdogs, but god help you if you try to take their breakfast egg and bagel.

      • @brbpostingOP
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        151 month ago

        When a place just tries to microwave the egg to put on their steamed bagel 😠

      • Neato
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        61 month ago

        It’s too much bread for a breakfast sandwich. Let the bagel stand on its own.

        • @sangriaferret
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          11 month ago

          Correct, the egg sandwich goes on a roll.

          A big pile of pastrami and provolone? You better believe it’s going on a bagel. Preferably pumpernickel.

        • @Socsa
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          11 month ago

          Good breakfast sandwiches scoop the bagel out.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        I honestly prefer a good buttermilk biscuit for breakfast sandwiches. If you have a Tudor’s Biscuit World near you go try them out! They are the only good fast food restaurant to work for, as in you get benefits, stock options, and will retire comfortably if you stay with them for 20 years. They also make some absolutely banging giant biscuit sandwiches.

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        Listen I love bagels. I just want to say that, there’s a reason it’s so popular and done so well by the good people living in NYC.

        It’s probably the same reason that bagels are either rare, or kind of suck by comparison in Germany.

    • PhineaZ
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      161 month ago

      Thank you, that cleared up the confusion.

    • @[email protected]
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      21 month ago

      Bagels come from Poland? They aren’t even a thing here anymore. I never saw one in my life.

  • @[email protected]
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    341 month ago

    I don’t get the joke please explain? Is the joke that bagels are bad? Because I’m German and I love bagels

    • @[email protected]
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      1 month ago

      The joke is that bagel shops are a Jewish food, so most bagel shops are owned and operated by Jews. And Germany did that whole holocaust thing, where they systematically tried to wipe out the Jews.

      It’d be a little bit like if a country tried to wipe out Indian people, then went “Hmm why don’t we have any good Indian restaurants?”

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        Not a great example though, because Britain literally conquered India and we’re full of great Indian restaurants.

        • @[email protected]
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          51 month ago

          Did you systemically persecute Indian business owners in Britain, escalating it to ethnic cleansing?

          The analogy is historically exact.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 month ago

          Britain is a cultural kleptomaniac, not remove everyone who isn’t British from their lands and make everything British.

    • Ech
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      111 month ago

      In the US at least, bagels are stereotypically popular among jewish people.

  • @[email protected]
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    1 month ago

    I honestly don’t get to bagel hype so I would be glad if somebody could explain it to me. Why wouldn’t you just have a sandwich instead?

    Edit: Thank you for your detailed explanations! I don’t live in the US and I have dietary restrictions, so I’m sure that I’ve just never had a good bagel. However you’ve convinced me that they are out there!

    • @[email protected]
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      381 month ago

      It’s all in the texture for me. The denser, somewhat chewy bagel is really nice and holds up to cream cheese a lot better than sandwich bread. They are amazing open face with cream cheese. Some folks like them with butter. It’s fine, but I do love cream cheese far more. I’ve had bagel sandwiches, which can be really good, but I do find them to be really heavy. (Plain or blueberry bagel, with cream cheese and sliced ham is my go-to for a bagel sandwich.)

      You can get all sorts of flavors of bagels, like cinnamon, blueberry, and onion. You can get schmear (cream cheese spread) with many different varieties of mixins too, like herbs, fish, and lemon! I think my favorite combo is an onion bagel with garlic herb schmear.

      That being said, I do love a good sandwich too.

      • @gigachad
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        451 month ago

        I am not entirely sure you really like cream cheese, as you mentioned cream cheese only 5 times in your comment

      • @[email protected]
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        1 month ago

        Kinda the same reason crumpets, rye bread and Naan bread exist - they go better for different things in different ways.

        Im personally a salmom/cream cheese bagel guy

      • @[email protected]
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        71 month ago

        To tie this whole meme convo back into a circle, schmear is a yiddish word that comes from German schmieren which means to spread!

      • @[email protected]
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        61 month ago

        You know what’s a great way to spruce up a bagel and cream cheese and get kind of a sandwich too? Add lettuce, tomato, and onion and eat the bagel like a sandwich.

        I do everything bagel, toasted with either veggie or jalapeño cream cheese with lettuce, tomato, and onion and boy howdy.

        Also great on an egg and cheese as well.

        • Drusas
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          61 month ago

          Even better: cold smoked salmon/lox, capers, and red onions. Mmmmmmm

      • @FellowEnt
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        41 month ago

        I like cream cheese. I usually go with butter and cream cheese, followed by salmon and maybe some lemon or dill/mustard sauce. Have you ever tried making cream cheese pastry? I don’t have the recipe at hand but you can make a dough with like 50% cream cheese. Roll it in a circle, top with smoked salmon (or ham I guess), cut into pizza slices and roll into mini croissants and they come out of the oven so crispy and cheesy and delicious it’s the best way to consume a lot of cream cheese IMHO

    • @[email protected]
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      101 month ago

      Here’s my opinion of how to try a bagel in its most classic format, me being someone from the northeast but not New York. Everything bagel, cut in half (like a sandwich), toasted, smear each open face with plain cream cheese (can substitute for veggie cream cheese), eat each half separately.

      Otherwise it’s just a different shape of bread like ciabatta or baguette. Personally I don’t love bagels for sandwiches because they tend to not hold up structurally, but bagel is my favorite context for cream cheese.

    • @[email protected]
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      91 month ago

      I’ll add to the others that A LOT of places don’t make bagels well. If it feels like you’re just eating bread then it’s not a good bagel. It should be chewy but also somewhat hard on the outside. A good bagel also doesn’t need to be toasted because it’s fresh.

    • 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️
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      The way bread is made can make a huge difference in a sandwich. Bagels are made differently than most sandwich breads and offer a different flavor and texture profile.

      Like, would you rather have some really good French bread or Wonderbread when you make a sandwich?

    • @[email protected]
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      81 month ago

      Good bagels aren’t actually common. You want them from a good place, and you want them fresh. The kind you get that have been baked and sitting out for hours aren’t going to be as good. The kind you buy from grocery stores absolutely don’t cut it.

  • @Lucidlethargy
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    281 month ago

    I just want to put it out there that not all begals are equal…

    In Southern California we have places like “Einstein’s Begals”. These taste like soggy compressed cardboard.

    In New York, however, they have these crispy, amazing circles of heaven. These are life-changing.

    • @[email protected]
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      231 month ago

      you must boil them first, then bake them.

      if you just bake them, all you get is a shitty dinner roll. not a bagel.

    • @[email protected]
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      1 month ago

      Do you realise that you’re spelling it ‘begal’, and everyone else is saying bagel?

        • @Socsa
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          11 month ago

          No, you have to put 17 million dead micro crustaceans. Orthodox Jews, who will leave the oven running all day so they don’t have to push a button on the sabbath, literally made a religious exception to the shellfish rule so they could eat New York bagels.

        • Jelloeater
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          11 month ago

          IDK it’s something about NY water that makes them taste better.

  • @[email protected]
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    1 month ago

    We have bagel here, so.

    I never saw a reason to get a bagel if I could get better tasting alternatives. However since every bakery get stupid expensive I haven’t bought anything but blank buns there anyways. I’m not going to pay 6€ for some bagel and still be hungry afterwards. Keep it

    • @[email protected]
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      81 month ago

      I don’t hate bagels, but in the end it’s just pretty dry funny shaped bread. I assume americans go crazy for bagels because their normal bread is ass. If you have some good alternatives or you can bake yourself, i don’t really see the point.

      • @[email protected]
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        81 month ago

        it’s just pretty dry funny shaped bread.

        Idk what bagels you’ve been eating, but we have clearly had different experiences with bagels.

      • @ElderWendigo
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        71 month ago

        If your bagel is dry and you can’t distinguish it from normal bread, you’ve never actually had a real bagel.

      • @Socsa
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        41 month ago

        Yes, I can see how you would not like bagels if you’ve never had a good bagel.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        do you mean dense? I would say bagels are dense. But when talking about bread I could see how dry and dense could be similar.

      • Match!!
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        31 month ago

        Ah, your bagels are terrible, presumably for the reason the meme implies

    • @peteypete420
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      141 month ago

      I don’t know the person in the OP, but I am assuming she is not talking about a pack of bagels you buy from the grocer. I imagine she is talking about the grocer selling packaged bagels in the aisle and having a baked goods section with bagels from a bakery in the same city. And also have one or two bagel places local. And also cafes or similar establishments that rep their bagel game.

      I do not know Germany 's bagel game. Just saying being able to buy a thing at the grocer does not mean you have access to the jawn the way others do. For example I can buy sushi at the grocery store near my work.

      • @Socsa
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        31 month ago

        I do not know Germany 's bagel game

        This is simple. If you are not in the US Northeast or Mid-Atlantic, there is a high probability that your bagels are trash.

    • @hypeerror
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      51 month ago

      Did your neighborhood have any national policies with respect to bagel bakers and their ethnic roots?

    • @brbpostingOP
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      21 month ago

      Disappointment

      Delectable

  • @[email protected]
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    191 month ago

    das Bockmist.

    Plenty of bagels in Germany…but hey, why not make a meme stirring up a little controversy, right?

  • @[email protected]
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    181 month ago

    Of course we have bagels in Germany. But with a good Baker having one or two dozen variants of rolls anyway, nobody actually needs defect rolls with a hole in the middle.

    • @washbasin
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      181 month ago

      I would never consider a bagel as a roll. I’m not sure what I would call it except excellent. But it isn’t a roll with a hole in the middle. I’m legitimately sorry if that has been your bagel experience.

      • @[email protected]
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        101 month ago

        Rolls are good, don’t get me wrong, but there’s a certain density to bagels that most rolls don’t have any business trying to imitate.

        It’s just a different type of bread product entirely.

        If people prefer rolls, that’s cool. Eat what you like, but nobody should be going around saying that rolls are universally better than bagels. They’re different, sometimes you feel like eating a while loaf of bread in one handheld package and bagels are there for you.

        Don’t judge me.

    • @ElderWendigo
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      Tell me you’ve never had a decent bagel without telling me you’ve never had a decent bagel. A bagel is not a roll.

      I never said either was better, just different.

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        -41 month ago

        Maybe bagels are better than American rolls, but that is not exactly aiming high. Have you ever tried German rolls? Because after that, you won’t touch bagels anymore, unless you go back to the US. And yes, I’ve had them all, and I don’t understand how you can stand those squishy, HFCS-loaded things.

        • @ElderWendigo
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          31 month ago

          You’re either responding to the wrong comment. Can’t read. Or you think straw man arguments are valid.

          I never said either was better, just that’s it’s foolish to confuse or compare the two.

            • @[email protected]
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              330 days ago

              Another European here. Might be because I’m into baking but I don’t think a bagel should be classified as a roll. Bagels are boiled in water prior to baking which gives them a rather unique texture compared to rolls.

              Sadly most commercially available “bagels” are not actually produced in this way.

        • @[email protected]
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          118 days ago

          American living in Germany, working happily at a German bakery. Brötchen can be absolutely spectacular and I love German bread, but I still miss bagels. I’ve never had a good one here, but the ones you find in the grocery store are basically similar to grocery store bagels in the US(though sometimes they’re not boiled here, which explains why they might seem like Brötchen with a hole).

          It’s honestly similar to good Laugengebäck, just without the taste of lye (Lauge), which makes sense. If that’s not appealing to you, sure, but my homemade bagels (which are good but not spectacular, compared to some bagels I’ve had) have always been a hit among the Germans I’ve made them for.

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          -130 days ago

          The order of superiority goes like this:

          American bagels > German rolls > German bagels > American rolls

          • @[email protected]
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            030 days ago

            The America bagel is definitely at the wrong end. It is better than American rolls, but that’s it.

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    For those that haven’t tried them, and don’t fancy going to NYC or Montreal for the “authentic bagel experience”, try making your own and you’ll see the huge difference between what you get in supermarkets (even good ones with good bakeries like Lidl) and a proper bagel. While there’s a few steps, it’s not hard to make.

    But for the yanks, you should absolutely try German bakeries. I can understand why even good bagels aren’t a priority for them…

    • @[email protected]
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      430 days ago

      As an Australian living in Germany for over a decade I’m still not that impressed with German bakeries. The pretzels are awesome and the bread is fine but the sandwiches are lame. They’re like mostly bread and never more than 1 or 2 toppings. A German once told me it’s because the point of the sandwich is the bread and if there are too many toppings you won’t taste the bread 😅

      Germans love their bread so much but I think it’s just because that’s what they grew up with, I don’t think it’s objectively as good as they think it is

    • @[email protected]
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      21 month ago

      I recently, as a lifelong montrealer, spent a few days in Manhattan and tried the bagels. Montreal bagels have this kind of faint aroma you get from the honey in the dough that I just didn’t find in New York bagels, the flavor of the new York bagels was much closer to bread but the texture was great. Also, maybe a New Yorker could answer this, but were they always so big with almost no hole or is that a development from them being used for sandwiches?

      • Flying Squid
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        11 month ago

        I never had a bagel on my trips to Britain but, at least when my dad was growing up in the 30s and 40s (and an adult there in the 50s), he said British bagels tasted somewhat different from American ones and had a very different texture.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        I read they use a malt syrup in NY instead of honey when they boil them, I’ve always wanted to try making them that way.

        • @[email protected]
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          130 days ago

          The recipes I’ve followed ask for some malt extract in the boiling water. There’s a definite difference in taste and texture, and while I recommend it, most places that sell the extract sell huge jars of it, so you’ll want to make a lot of bagels to get it used up…

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          Ah! That goes to show how our local experience shapes our definition of things. Is the malt syrup or honey more traditional (I’m guessing honey but you never know)?

    • @[email protected]
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      130 days ago

      you’ll see the huge difference between what you get in supermarkets (even good ones with good bakeries like Lidl) and a proper bagel.

      I believe in large part this is because traditionally a bagel ought to be boiled in water and then baked in an oven. But to save labor costs, mass-produced bagels are often baked in a steam oven which doesn’t quite give the same chewy texture.

      Another factor is, they will generally partly bake them in the factory, then freeze them and ship them off to your supermarket which finishes them off before putting it on the shelf.

  • @[email protected]
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    131 month ago

    I had a friend from Germany say the same thing, didn’t call them out on it but man I laughed later.

  • @[email protected]
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    131 month ago

    We don’t? I am eating Aldi bagels right now, lol.

    They might not be as widespread, or as good as in New York, especially when it comes to the fast food, but you can absolutely get them in almost every supermarket.