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    4 months ago

    On brand.

    It’s oddly appropriate that those who are most focused on the supposed inherent moral imperative to have children are so often such awful parents.

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      He hasn’t got the time to parent his children, he’s got a full time job going on podcasts to berate the rest of us for not having children.

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    ”And he is really into Pokemon cards right now, he’s going through a Pokemon phase… I mean he’s really into it, so he is trying to talk to me about Pikachu and I am on the phone with Donald Trump, I’m like ‘son, shut the hell up for 30 seconds about Pikachu,’” Vance told the podcast.

    Wow. Maybe Vance should have gotten some stability in his career before he had kids. Maybe figured himself out a little better and grown as a person until he was ready.

    Children are a life-altering obligation, after all. Maybe Vance would have been happier if he focused on his career first. Of course, that’s a deeply personal matter, and I would never assume that I know better than someone else what is best for their life.

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      Wow! I didn’t know this existed. So it just turns JavaScript off to kill ads? I thought we could do that in our browsers ourselves.

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          Sadly the firewall bypass doesn’t work as good as it did in the beginning :( A lot of websites changed how they implement a paywall and I read some rumours a while back, that some news sites closed a deal with the developer/hoster of 12ft. Allegedly, 12ft would be paid to exclude certain news sites from the bypass - I don’t know whether those rumours have been confirmed or not

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    What a weird thing to say to your kid. That’s not normal. What happen to protect the kids? “Shut the hell up so I can talk to the rapist, convicted felon and credibly accused pedophile!”

    Are these the family values?

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    Might be an unpopular opinion While JD has said plenty of horrible things, this reads more like someone relating how they felt in the moment than reciting what was actually said. I’m sure most parents have felt this way at some point. We don’t need to make this mole hill into a mountain. There’s already a whole mountain range of his shit that’s actually egregious.

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      I’m conflicted.

      I feel that the assessment you made is accurate.

      But, Context matters. and in this case he made this comment that shows him being annoyed as a dad after going on the record about how useless people without kids are and calling childless women crazy cat ladies.

      It just reeks to me of him being jealous of people who don’t have kids and/or him regretting being a parent?

      Idk. I’m not sold on my take. I guess good for him for being in the kids life in a significant way, but again I don’t like the framing of his anti family stances with complaining about being a parent. Pick a side lol

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        It just reeks to me of him being jealous of people who don’t have kids and/or him regretting being a parent?

        Perhaps. I don’t think there’s much here to substantiate that reading though, even with the context. I’d want a bit more evidence if I were to incorporate that into my appraisal of him.

        You can judge someone to be morally repugnant without interpreting everything they say/do as an extension of the things that make them repugnant. It doesn’t lessen the repugnance.

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          This is all true. Like I said, I wasn’t sold on the take I gave (which was a gut take) from the logical side. I think your point about wanting more evidence is the best takeaway. Shady vance is the guy you can just give rope to and he’ll hang himself.

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      I agree. I don’t understand how this is important enough for someone to report on.

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      Sure, but let’s not give him the benefit of the doubt. He wouldn’t.

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        Or you could, maybe, care about whats true instead of what’s convenient the same way the right does.

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      Agreed, this is the dumbest thing ever. I get that they’re trying to make them look bad, but I’m sure over half the people with kids have told their young child to shut the hell up when they’re on the phone with someone “important”.

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        This was me every other day during lockdown. My kids would walk into my ad hoc office and start complaining about some random shit or come in there to continue their little squabble.

        I heard a guy tell his teenage kids to “shut the fuck up!” multiple times.

        This really isn’t worth a story. Conservatives are awful in so many other ways. This is more of a human moment.

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          Yeah, back in 2022 I was doing teletherapy and the therapist worked from home and had a baby and one a few years old. Half the time I could hear them screaming in the background (granted you can’t really tell a baby to be quiet, but you can a little kid) and it was annoying as hell to listen to.

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        Counterpoint - hit him early and often. Don’t relent.

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          Nah, that just fucks your kid up when you do it too often. Sometimes little kids need a good smack because they absolutely refuse to listen to anything you say, but I’m largely against hitting kids. My dad spanked me once as a kid and it worked.

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      Yes, let’s not be too hard on good old JD, who called Democrat politicians a bunch of childless cat ladies with miserable lives".

      “The entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children,” he said at the time. “How does it make any sense we’ve turned our country over to people who don’t really have a direct stake in it?”

      The Senator from Ohio said the country was being run “by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too”.

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        This has nothing to do with going easy on JD. It has to do with the things we chose to criticize on principle. It’s about who we choose to be. You gave two great examples of things we should judge him for. I’m happy to focus on those and the next oppressive thing he says. If you want to be someone who criticizes parents for getting exasperated by their kids, that’s your perogative, but that’s not me and I don’t think people should.

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          You can definitely get exasperated by kids without acting like this. I’m honestly a bit shocked how many people seem to think this is ok behavior.

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            Again, if we read it as he literally said that, then sure I’d agree the behaviour is not okay. Given the context of the quote, I’d want more evidence to take that quote literally.

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    Seeing that picture reminded me his kids are biracial. So to add to this fatherhood moment: he also supports a man who doesn’t respect someone of mixed heritage, the very thing his own kids are.

    It’s not cognitive dissonance, it’s wilful suspension of the truth and the reason politics are driving wedges into our families and friends.

    Lastly, I’m not a conspiracy theorist but if another country wanted to destroy us from within this seems like a good way to do it.

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      I’m not a conspiracy theorist, either, but my preferred suspicion is that it’s aliens. They’ve tried a number of techniques, from implanting mind-control devices (Mitch McConnell and the way his face carries a look of horrified disgust at the things they make him do) to direct infiltration by putting one of their agents in an ill-fitting human suit (Ted Cruz). Ultimately, they seem to have given up the finesse approach, and settled on lobotomizing humans with existing personality disorders to create a RAID (redundant array of inexpensive dipshits) to simply overwhelm our system of government.

      It’s the only explanation that really makes sense to me.

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      Could happen that way, but I keep going back to the future timeline where fascists take over the US, fuck everything, decide war is the solution, then China puts them back in their place and reign as the world’s super power for the next 200 years.

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    This is a bs story. This was just a recounting of him getting the call for VP. It’s not a direct quote. Just how he felt, and if you’ve had kids, there are plenty of times you want to tell them to shut the hell up like that but don’t say it that way. There are reasons to not like this guy but we can be better than this rage bait bs.

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      For real, friends in discord were aghast at this, and I’m thinking “bro I’ve heard you tell your kids to shut the fuck up.”

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        Not that you should telling your kids to stfu, but yelling that from the other room when they’re screaming is a bit different than saying it to their face while they’re trying to share something with you.

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      I don’t know anything about the full send podcast, if it’s meant to be a serious interview, I think that’s kind of a bad look on him that he’d choose to recount it with a mild profanity like hell. I curse like a sailor on my own time, but in any situation where I’m acting as a representative of my job or acting in any sort of official capacity for any organization I’m a part of, or just trying to make a good, professional impression, my speech is squeaky clean and fit to be aired on PBS kids.

      Even if it’s meant to be a more light-hearted and humorous podcast, there’s a fine line to walk for people in the public eye and they need to be mindful of what sort of soundbites they’re making that could be taken out of context. That kind of shows a little lack of forethought about what he’s going to say and how it might be received by his audience, which isn’t exactly a desirable quality in a politician.

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      Yeah… relatable internal thoughts aren’t the way to take down this idiot who is taking himself down.

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    Can someone explain what a Pokémon “phase” is?

    Is he implying that you become less interested in Pokémon at some point?

    🤔

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      My 14-year-old who had an Evee plushie and used to call our dog Charlie “Charmander” rolls her eyes when she sees Pokemon stuff now that she’s a “I’m too cool for this kids stuff” teenager.

      Then she asks if I can get her some Hello Kitty stickers for her to put on her phone case.

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    Dude, you threw your wife and your kids in front of the bus because of Trump? You’re never gonna recover from this, ever.

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    I dislike this guy as much as everyone else, but isn’t the fact that his son wants to tell him about Pokémon all the time an indication that he is not a terrible father?

    I mean, I can only speak from personal experience, but the kids I’ve seen who are treated badly do not want to talk to their parents about their interests.

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      Somehow I have gone through over 14 years of parenthood without ever telling my child to “shut the hell up.”

      You say, “please be quiet for a minute, ok? We’re talking about something important.” Something like that seemed to work just fine when she was of the age where she constantly babbled about video games.

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      Or his son wants attention you can be treated poorly without being treated poorly physically.

      Manny wats to interpret a situation and of a kid wants to tell him someone one time how do we know he is constantly wanting to talk about it.

      Regardless, your comment does one thing it tries to side step the real glooming issue. You shouldn’t be an ass to your kids by shutting them down the way he did. There are way better ways to handle this. I cuss like a sailor but I would never tell a kid to shut the hell up.

      Nah, this is guys a fuckwad.

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        I agree with you in principle, but after having a kid who, without wanting to go into too much detail, requires my constant attention, I can understand parents losing their cool. Thankfully, I have never done it myself, but I have definitely been close to my breaking point a few times already.

        Look, all I’m saying is that I have stopped judging parents as easily as I did when I didn’t have any kids. The guy might be an ass to them. Or he might not be. I just dislike people jumping to conclusions as fast as they are.

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      I wanted to tell my dad about Pokemon, but my parents were religious fanatics. They sent me to an all boys extreme religious group home for being autistic where kids were raped and beat. My parents wouldn’t listen as I begged them to take me out and that we were being abused. They still defend the place 20 years later after it was sued into the ground. When I came out to them this year as transfem they told me not to contact them again and I haven’t heard a word since.

      It’s not a very reliable indication that a kid wants to share their interests with their mom and dad. They’re your parents. Kids crave bonding over their interests.

      I still wish things were better and dad would play video games with me, even though I know he’s a piece of shit sent from the lowest level of humanity attainable.

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      I mean my kid will tell everyone who will listen about Pokemon cards, even complete strangers, so I dunno if it has anything to do with parenting.

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    Can I adopt JD Vance’s kid? Not because I particularly want to raise a child, but because that early enthusiasm shouldn’t be snuffed out by Vance, especially not when he’s talking to someone about whom he says:

    • “I’m a Never Trump guy.”
    • “My god, what an idiot.”
    • “America’s Hitler”
    • “Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”
    • “I can’t stomach Trump.”

    I agree with J. D. Vance’s factual quotes, but not his political ambition, which apparently caused him to reverse-course on all that and bend the knee. My personal conspiracy theory is Trump chose him as VP Nominee because that enables Trump to humiliate Vance with his past comments and current subservience. He’s just that petty. I hope he loses the election because of it…

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/15/jd-vance-donald-trump-comments-00168450