Summary
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez announced she will not attend Donald Trump’s inauguration, stating, “I don’t celebrate rapists,” referencing Trump’s history of sexual assault allegations.
While Trump has never been convicted of rape, a jury found him civilly liable for sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll.
Ocasio-Cortez also criticized TikTok for crediting Trump with restoring service in the U.S., calling it a propaganda move.
She warned of social media platforms being weaponized by right-wing interests, claiming they are contributing to the rise of “21st-century fascism” under the incoming administration.
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Keep it up, AOC.
This is how you take the moral high ground, not by ceding ground to the far-right.
Good move from AOC.
Per usual, she’s probably our best hope of a high profile progressive in office (and a potential do-over of 2016 when we didn’t get Bernie if Dems get some sense).
Right on the money too about social media. I think I’m more concerned about that than I am about Trump himself. I really don’t want Zoomers to end up the next conservative generation; like the Boomers and Gen Xers who suck Reagan dick after the 80s because their misunderstanding of what actually happened during his presidency. Confirmation bias is strong and that’ll fuck the US long after Trump dies.
They need to protect her at all costs, because they will kill her.
This isn’t like a threat or a joke or something.
Look at Fred Hampton.
Look at MLK. Look at Malcolm…
Look at RFK. The original. The dad. No brain worm (that we know about). Side note, there’s an HBO documentary series about RFK that’s fantastic. He was one of the good ones. Things might have turned out very different if not for Sirhan^2. Fucking tragedy.
I truly fear for AOC.
Please don’t mention Bernie anymore. They postponed him and now he’s just too old, we need to stop with the old people. AOC is a great choice, and there needs to be full backing on that because the old corporate guard has some loser in mind, I assume.
Probably Kamala again.
Probably Kamala again.
NOW is the time to change this. Do not waste it.
I think I am done voting for liberals. They come up with endless excuses why they cannot help the working class and when finally do anything it is to fund Israel’s genocide or to give massive wins to Republicans by banning Tiktok the day before Trump was sworn in just so he could unban it.
Gen X’er here… When '88 rolled around and Poppy Bush was running was my first election.
Kept asking the “greatest” and boomers: “So, wait, either he’s lying about his involvement in Iran/Contra, is dirty as fuck and shouldn’t be elected, or he legit had no clue, wasn’t involved, and is incompetent for a former CIA director and shouldn’t be elected. Which is it?”
Hold onto her, after Trump has pardoned the Jan 6 people as well as the proud boy leader he’s proven that it isn’t a crime if you do it in Trumps name
Dems would rather sell us to fascism than put a progressive in office.
This assumes a progressive candidate would win, though. Given this last election, I don’t think that’s a particularly safe bet to make. Honestly, I don’t think that anyone on the left could have won, following Biden. People were so disgusted with his performance they elected trump again, for fucks sake.
Even though he made it so medicare can negotiate drug prices?
Oh I’m very much aware of the good he did - part of my job was managing the data for his family reunification efforts, to correct the damage trump did last time. He’s fucking wrong about Palestine and that’s horrifying, and he also did a whole fuckload of positive things for the US. But, critically, nobody actually cares. Nothing he did was glamorous enough to outshine that one debate performance where he had a cold, and the republicans have been so effective in poisoning fucking everything they touch that even the people who know about the positive things he did don’t care enough to turn up and vote.
It’s depressing as fuck, really. If you’re a good, but not flashy, president, it doesn’t matter. You have to be a fucking showman, otherwise you’re a milquetoast failure in the eyes of the nation.
Gen Xers who suck Reagan dick after the 80s because their misunderstanding of what actually happened during his presidency.
So, like, one guy.
Yeah dude, I’m fairly confident most of us dislike Reagan a fucking lot.
At least, most people in my generation that I hang out with, so it could be self selecting.
You’d be surprised how many people still seem to believe in Reaganomics, and far too many either forgot about Iran-Contra or still believe he was the deal maker that saved the day.
But yes, probably more boomers than Gen X. X is in a weird spot, cause the people I’m thinking of are borderline Boomers and mostly just aren’t well informed.
You’re probably right. I’ll admit it’s a self selection bias because I’m old enough to have made up my mind not to associate with people that have fundamentally different beliefs than I do.
So there are likely a lot of them, but none of them are MY friends, so it’s easy enough to believe in my little sphere.
If it makes you feel any better, I’m not exactly proud of my millennial cohort as a whole. I think on average they’re ok (Obama was a good vote and a real primary in '08) but it’s not like they don’t have their own brain rot. It’s good to have your own cool bubble to be with, though.
The male zoomers are hardcore Trumpers. Uninformed from shitty social media takes and no understanding of civics. The damage is already done.
Glad there is at least one politician that can speak frankly about the felon in chief.
That’s why I think not allowing her to be on the Oversight committee was shortsighted, she makes great opposition against MAGA and I want to see more of her speaking the voice of reason
That’s why I think not allowing her to be on the Oversight committee was shortsighted
It’s not shortsighted, it’s intentional. The Democratic Party leadership is Blue MAGA because they don’t want to ruffle the feathers of their corporate donors. Like with many politicians of either side of the aisle, Nancy Pelosi made money buying stocks of companies who are just granted government contracts. Why would she and the DNC want to curtail the power of oligarchs who pays their salaries by appointing progressives instead?
America is heading into an oligarchy, if not corporate fascism. But it’s not too late yet. As an outsider looking at American politics, it’s easier to organise on local level and then influence the federal level. I believe progressives should start mobilising on grassroots campaigning at the local level. That way, they could spread their influence up to the federal level. The way I see it, the MAGA is obviously influenced by the Tea Party movement. Progressives should do something similar.
Yeah, and having Red MAGA around let’s then try and attract votes with “look how horrible they are, vote for us so you don’t get them”.
Dems would rather Trump get away with everything than anyone ever call them out on anything
Commander in thief
It seems people have forgotten about several other rape cases including one for a teen in 1996. This case disappeared all of a sudden. Either a payoff or a threat quashed the case. There is a docket number and it really exists.
What about Brock Allen Turner? We all remember the scumbag rapist Brock Allen Turner from Stanford, right?
Not to sound like one of those “All Lives Matter” assholes, but I think we can agree that all rapists should be named, shamed, and sent to an island with only cacti and porcupines.
But an important difference between DJT and BAT is that one of them is now the fucking president. Again.
The other one could be later. Wealthy brat who can get away with anything.
Oh yeah, I remember the rapist Brock Allen Turner, who is a rapist
Didn’t he try to change his name?
Yes, he now goes by the name “the rapist Allen Turner”, which is to deceive others from his past as “Brock Allen Turner”, who is a rapist.
I’m sad that I thought of SNL Celebrity Jeopardy after reading your comment.
“Adjudicated Rapist”.
https://newrepublic.com/post/174448/judge-e-jean-carroll-case-yes-donald-trump-rapist
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that [rape, as ‘commonly’ understood].”
I refuse to qualify the term rape. Trump raped Carroll - there are no conditions or clarifications needed.
Adjudicated rapist is not the same as convicted rapist. That’s the real issue. Trump was never charged with rape.
I don’t disagree and I’d concede the point if I was talking to a lawyer or other legal expert that was having a discussion with me in good faith.
These fucks exploit the shit out of good faith and technicalities so fuck it.
You’re[1] wrong, it was rape.
- Pst, I’m not specifically speaking to you Jordan but in a generalized sense. We need to call rape rape.
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I think that being transparent in my reasoning is acting in good faith to this community. But, I’ve worked in professional environments for like twenty years now… I know that being fully honest isn’t always a good policy. Communication between humans is complex and I’m morally comfortable with my decisions of when I chose to use linguistic tricks to reinforce or erode an argument.
You’re perfectly fair to judge me for not being full transparent all the time (though I do think that’s quite naïve) and you’re also fair to judge me about when I chose to use these tricks to push a viewpoint. That’s well within your rights.
Also as federal law defines rape.
Be very careful. Remember, ABC and George Stephonopalous (or however you spell his name) just had to cough up $15 million and apologize to Trump for repeating this.
I wish I was joking.
They didn’t have to. They chose to roll over like fucking cowards.
Nah. Donald Trump is a rapist who raped E. Jean Carroll, among others.
They settled a case that wasn’t by any means open and shut. And in the context of that case Stephenpolous was talking about the legal case Trump was involved in, which specifically was not rape according to the jury but sexual assault.
In this case, aoc isn’t referring to a case but in general that Trump is a rapist so she is standing on much firmer ground since she isn’t talking about specific facts, Trump is a public figure, and I doubt anyone could say that aoc is lying with malice.
She didn’t say ‘convicted’ which makes her case way easier, just point to the judge and shrug
I heard just being a whiny little bitch works really great as a defense. All you have to do is somehow quadruple your hearings and whine, and they let you go, in fact, you may even be president one day if you whine enough.
I feel that was more of an offering.
Serial rapist.
That’s awesome! I’m happy she is staying her actual reason for not attending. Sadly, millions of Americans do celebrate rapists. Athelets, musicians, actors. Then you have priests, doctors, cops that get a free pass, and prison rape is outright celebrated.
She’s right about the tiltok bullshit and social media being weaponized. Look how fucking well with worked with network television and newspapers. Most people I know, even intelligent ones, trust some form of major media like the NYT’s or CNN. Facism was already here and now we’ve let it off it’s leash to run free.
NYT’s
Parse error.
For me what is most destructive is the sanewashing a lot of the MAGAs are getting on a lot of these once reputable sources in traditional media. I hope the obituary we read in the near future isn’t USA’s.
Or fascists.
I would say “and fascists.”
Its like every politician with morals gets fucked. I’d love to see the “young” 74 year old with throat cancer bat against convictions like this.
Oh wow she found her moral standards again. Luckily you can pick those up after dropping them.
What are you on?
Her statement is so damn tone def when you know what the democrats have been supporting since pre 80’s. Republicans too mind you, but she’s Democrat, and someone I think has a conscience, and more than half a brain. I’ll respect her when she turns on every last traitor to the republic and stands damn near alone while Bernie’s chanting “told you so”
You can’t get anywhere in politics if you don’t sign up for being a Republican or a Democrat. Your ignorance is showing.
I don’t have opinion on this because I’m from Europe and I stopped understanding American politics but just wanted to point out that 80s were 40 fucking years ago. 40.
I likely agree with you about the democrats, but I am not sure I understand what you mean about how she is following them here.
Only if they’re a Dem
I’ve never heard her celebrate Bill Clinton or any other Dem rapist, have you?
Biden had rape accusations against him as well from his younger years. Those never received much media attention.
To be fair, not many forms of media were invented in Biden’s younger years. I think he graduated high school just as radio was becoming a thing.
Yes
I’m gonna have to insist that you provide sources for your claim that she’s ever supported Bill Clinton or any other Dem rapist.
You first
… you made the claim. It’s your prerogative to argue for it.
