I would think “if you have a Y chromosome, you’re male” would be a better definition to fit what they’re trying to do
Embryos can’t produce gametes. Everyone is agender now.
wouldnt it be intersex since it’s talking about sex and not gender?
Maybe I’m blazed off my rocker, but isn’t that an approximate definition you’d get from a biology prof. if they’re in a hurry? I swear I heard something like that in one genetics class many moons ago. (I know the actual quote is probably wrong, but the rest is meh ok yeah sure.)
The problem with this definition is that sex differentiation is determined by many genes, and the genetic makeup at conception is not always indicative of what primary and secondary sexual characteristics will develop. This is purely with regards to biological sex, and we’re not even talking about a person’s gender here.
YOU KNOW WHO I WORRY ABOUT COMING INTO WOMEN’S BATHROOMS, CONSERVATIVES?
CIS MEN.
I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER HAD A TRANS WOMAN MAKE ME FEEL UNSAFE IN THERE. BUT I HAVE HAD CIS MEN FOLLOW ME IN AND ATTEMPT ASSAULT.
MEN DON’T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE CONVOLUTED STEPS OF TRANSITIONING TO GAIN ACCESS TO WOMEN’S BATHROOMS, YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
MAYBE ADDRESS THAT FIRST? NO???
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
They believe that anyone can claim they’re a woman now and that’s it. And once it’s done they can just walk into women’s bathrooms. They’re just telling on themselves, projecting on trans people. They’re just sex obsessed freaks, all of them.
I know. I was raised in a fundie church. I did not escape unscathed. They’re fucked up perverts.
I’ve said that if I was wealthy, I would force legislation that was trans friendly by (as a cis woman) going into women’s bathrooms in Congress, standing on toilets, and staring at women.
Women’s bathrooms don’t have urinals! There’s no reason for anyone to be afraid of anyone seeing anything in there, unless they stand on toilets, and Im fully of the opinion that the gender of the person doing that has nothing to do with how creepy it is!!
Maybe if you’re actually worried, all bathrooms should be, I dunno, gender neutral with full doors that close all the way? For maximum safety?
And I believe nothing can get that point across quite like demonstrating that I, as an almost middle aged, fat woman who looks like I could safely run for a Rwpublican seat, standing on toilets and staring at people.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Maybe if you’re actually worried, all bathrooms should be, I dunno, gender neutral with full doors that close all the way? For maximum safety?
They made a bathroom at my university that’s gender neutral with stalls that are fully ceiling to floor with no gaps in the door.
And this is how it should be everywhere!
wait … so if I just walk through the door I’m suddenly in the women’s bathroom? no force field?
Since there is insufficient cell differentiation at conception to produce any reproductive cells, does that mean that according to the white house, all people are legally non-binary now?
Female gametes are expressed first, so we’ve all been forced to be women
Are they expressed AT CONCEPTION?
Who would have thought that Trump would be the first female president of the United States
Actually, he’s the first agender president. Embryos don’t produce any gametes at conception. The idea that embryos are all female is a myth spread by people who don’t believe in nonbinary sex.
They would be the better pronoun in this instance then.
Poggers
“You know what we mean!”
So we’re back to gender being a social construct then.
I recommend everyone visit the DMV as soon as possible to change their license. It’s an order from the commander in chief.
Now that I think of it: every DMV should be only be able to issue licenses with a female designation. Facts and law suites don’t care about your feelings, snow flakes.
So we’re all female. Neat!
Alright, I’ll keep my promise. All the homies can hit it.
No, embryos don’t produce eggs.
I’ve always wondered what it’s like.
Turns out, (according to the US government) I was experiencing it all along.
I wish at least I was female
when the fascists accidentally forcefem all of america:
*neuter
Embryos don’t produce gametes of any type.
Let me have this damn
Shush I want my forcefem
Alright then, take your pills, Alice.
I’m no biologist, but I’m pretty sure nobody produces gametes at conception. If you want to be pedantic, oocytes form before birth, but actual sperm and eggs don’t show up till puberty (feel free to correct me).
Now, I would LOVE if we don’t assign gender till puberty, but I still don’t like the method.
i’ve always thought the egg cells were produced before birth and at puberty they just start being released
and i agree about not assigning gender until puberty. kids before puberty barely even show any sexual dimorphism anyway. though i have to say there would need to be A LOT of educating people about sex and gender before we get there
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Republicans showing once again their cognitive prowess.
It’s the gamete crowd, but adapted for the crowd that can’t spell “gamete”.
What about people who produce neither?
They usually handwave and claim “they don’t count” because they can’t reproduce, assuming that somehow means they can be ignored.
i don’t think embryos produce any reproductive cells right away so that handwave would have to cover… everyone
Is… is that the actual wording?
Holy shit. Surely those who drafted this realize the importance of wording in legal documents. What an egregious error.
Why would you think that? These lines were written by fascists to appeal to morons. Proper wording only matters for those of us that live in reality.
Fuck you I’m a woman owned business now and also my DMV can’t issue liscences designated male without proof of… exogenesis? Parthogenisis? Some kind of nobel winning genesis?
Um. I am a trans woman and this deeply affects me as well. I believe you misread my intention here. What I said was far from a compliment.
ah shit. Bad wording. I’m sorry I didn’t mean for it to come off that way, just upset and didn’t mean to minimize. I can’t do much, but I can be a pain in the ass at the DMV tomorrow and force a case. Not much blowback on someone like me.
Ah, it’s all good :) I understand your meaning now.
thanks. sorry. I am upset an amount beyond the right I have, but also have the responsibility, to be.
Good news for you: embros don’t produce gametes at all. Everyone is now legally agender. You can refuse to issue female licences too.
I don’t get to refuse anything. I’m just complying with an order, or my state is saying, on record, they refuse to comply. All I can do is say the facts. Facts don’t care about your feelings.
You’re giving them more credit than they’ve shown.
Maybe I’m a late bloomer but I started producing reproduce cells long after conception
Maybe you didn’t have a gender until you started producing them? Which bathroom did you use?
and were they in the women’s or men’s section of the olympics?
