• onecarmel@lemm.ee
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    14 hours ago

    If only this dude was allowed to be the Democratic front-runner in 2016. Things could be so much better…

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    This isn’t really a big news story, Bernie has been doing this pretty consistently. Yes, he was doing it under Biden too. Yes, this is purely performative, it won’t have enough votes. No, this isn’t antisemitic.

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      12 hours ago

      it’s not just performative. Just because something isn’t gonna work, doesn’t mean you still shouldn’t take a stand. Morality isn’t something you can turn off and on depending on how useful it is.

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      15 hours ago

      It won’t get enough votes, but it will force people to vote and show who they really are.

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      12 hours ago

      He did not criticize Biden during his entire genocide. Bernie supports the actions of Israel

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        He stuck (and is sticking) to the party line way too much for way too long, which is something you can criticize him for, but “Bernie supports the actions of Israel” ain’t it.

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    16 hours ago

    Bernie is literally the only politician I would trust with this country at this point. What a bunch of fuck ups and morons

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    15 hours ago

    Netanyahu’s “defense” is mass civilian slaughter, funded by U.S. taxpayers. Sanders calls it what it is.

    😺😺😺😺😺

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    Now that Trump is in office. Bernie ignored the children being bombed in Gaza for the past 16 months because he is a Democrat shill.

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      Stop spreading false info. Maybe he isn’t doing it to your particular liking but he is fucking doing it and you’re all over this thread saying the opposite.

      2024 Scoop: Sanders seeks to block $20 billion in arms sales to Israel

      2023 Sen. Bernie Sanders says aid to Israel should be conditional, citing the toll on Gaza

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        I did not lie, in those articles he did not criticize the Biden administration, and did not criticize Kamala for her stance on the genocide.

        He has approved many arms sales to Israel, you are a hypocrite

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          I addressed this :

          “Now that Trump is in office. Bernie ignored the children being bombed in Gaza for the past 16 months because he is a Democrat shill. ”

          In what you read in the articles is he ignoring the children being bombed? Both instances dating back two years is addressing bombing that would affect children.

          Stop being obtuse and use some literacy and critical thinking skills.

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      He tried to stop the weapons last year as well. Because Bernie is not a shill, he’s pretty fucking cool.

      Which is why the media often goes out of their way to ignore him.

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      17 hours ago

      Remember, sometimes not speaking is the best thing you can say!

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    I don’t think we should give away weapons to Israel, but why should sales be blocked? Israel has a right to defend itself.

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      man, looking at your history, you seem to go out of your way to have the absolute worst takes in history. I mean, it really takes work to be as hated as you are everywhere you go.

      if israel wants to defend themselves, let them do it. there’s no need for us to be the ones defending them. otherwise, it’s not them defending themselves, is it?

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        Yes, they should defend themselves, but if we sell (not give away) weapons, I don’t see anything wrong with that. I’m not saying we should defend Israel with American troops, but Israel has a right to exist and procure weapons

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            They have a right to defend themselves when they are being attacked. They fucked around and are in the process of finding out. They don’t have any right to defense when attacking first.

            It’s really simple. Russia attacked Ukraine so when Ukraine occupied Kursk, Russia has zero right to complain.

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              If a bully keeps bullying someone, until the victim finally snaps back, is it the bully defending themselves or should they not be held at fault for the bullying in the first place?

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      I think what they’ve done is far more than merely defending themselves.

      Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.

      And let’s not even start on the forced displacement of almost a million (!!!) people.

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        Don’t forget the public admission from Israel that they want to kill everyone in Gaza that doesn’t leave.

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        Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.

        This. It goes far beyond reckless, far beyond callous; it’s literal genocide.

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        My friend the real death toll could be ten times the 40k killed I’m being told by the media. I don’t know, I’ve never been there. Everything is so fucked it’s hard to know who to believe.

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          The UN has published the estimated deaths to be at least 200k+ because of famine and the lack of medical care.

          • Humanitarian aid was blocked
          • Food trucks were stopped
          • Hospitals are bombed

          That’s a Genocide.

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            Oh yeah, I’m using very low numbers (ie. just the bodies who have been identified) so there’s little room for argument. The actual death toll is unknowable because it’s so large.

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            Oh yeah, no doubt about it. I just can’t ever know how many bodies are under the remains of their buildings. I imagine that could even be a conservative number. I doubt they were doing a census.

            It’s making me sick thinking about it every day and I’m so privileged to even have the luxury of giving a shit.

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      It’s actually just a limitation of the weapon system. Unfortunately, they switched to the foreskin guidance systems.

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      To add to what the other guy said: As Hamas is an insurgency working in territory that Israel is illegally occupying, Israel does not in fact have a right to defend itself. It has no right to do anything except get the fuck out of Gaza (including its territorial waters and airspace).

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      The money for these “sales” is aid from the US government.

      Israel is unique in that they are the only country that gets its aid from the US government on January 1st, with interest, in cash. They have to use a part of it on American weapons and the rest they just get in cash.

      I’m sure Sanders also has a bill or intentions to stop that, but that would be a separate bill.