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      It’s important to mention that the vast majority of pizza eaten in Norway is frozen pizza. Grandiosa is the most popular brand and it costs about as much as a restaurant pizza anywhere else

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      What they call pizza here is more like frozen cardboard. No, it’s really “not that good” at all

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    Can attest. Just visited Norway and although I wanted to eat authentic Norwegian cuisine, pizza was everywhere. Easier to find than seafood and I was staying in a port city.

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        I was in Iceland a few weeks ago, and hot dogs and burgers seemed to dominate the national cuisine. I expected more fish, but fish and chips was usually the most expensive item on the menu.

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          No sheep ? I remember mutton being half the dishes, and fish being the rest.

          But then if you go to Iceland for the food, you’re probably coming from a terrible place.

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            Yah, it was lamb and salmon 99% of the time. Don’t knock seafood there though. I went to a nice place In Reykjavik and it was some of the best seafood I’ve had.

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            Tbh, I have been to Iceland twice and I have managed to eat very well! (Italian here)

            There is no much variety, but I have eaten very good lamb (as you are saying), stews (both mean and fish), even baked goods (there was a tiny house with very good cakes in the middle of nowhere in Westfjords).

            My favorite probably was a fusion sushi place (I.e. sushi with local fish) in Seydisfiordur (the town where Ben Stiller arrives to in the Walter Mitty movie BTW). I don’t think the place exists anymore (that was in 2018) but it was very good.

            Sometimes you can find very good food in unexpected places (for example, I have never eaten better Mexican food than in Rovaniemi, in Finnish Lapland!).

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              Yes, very good lamb and seafood. I had a seafood stew that was excellent. I almost made myself sick because I stuffed myself with their herring too. I called it Viking sushi. :D

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              Yeah, the food isn’t bad at all, just not terribly varied. Except for their hot dogs; hot dogs with fried egg, vegan hot dogs with blue cheese, and a few dozen other variations.

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          For real? Last time I was there the fish dishes were the only affordable option. A full fish plate at a restaurant was 20 euros while a simple burger was 35. Fish is the only thing they don’t have to import. In a local supermarket a loaf of bread was 8 euros, a six-pack of cheap beer 20 euros. And a beer at a bar was 17 euros. Like, wtf. I just ate fish the whole trip as it was the only affordable food there. While I’m normally a vegan, but vegan food would completely drain my wallet.

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            From what I remember, burgers were usually about 3500 isk, while fish and chips awas 5000 isk. I think that’s about €25 and €35. I’ve seen several restaurants with prices in that range, but I didn’t remember all the prices.

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            Small countries are very sensitive to price fluctuations on food. In Norway something might cost 40 nok one day and 20 the next (usually the other way round) especially imported things.

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              I live in the Netherlands, we don’t have that. Might it be because so much is imported and needs to be transported far to many rural areas in Norway?

              Also, fish should be steady in Iceland as it has a steady inflow, being a local product.

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                The Netherlands is part of the EU, darling. Norway isn’t. Also the exchange rate isn’t as steady so if fish is local then it’ll keep the same price in Icelandic kroner but the price for a tourist will vary because you convert the price to your own currency in your head when you travel.

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    When it’s cold AF you love turning on the oven. My family eats crazy pizza, but not in the summer. The take out places near me aren’t great. Of course cold places love pizza!

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    Can you call it pizza, though? If it has kebab, and shrimp, and banana, and peanuts, and mayonnaise is it actually a pizza, or is it simply a scattering of food on a plate that happens to be made of bread?

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      I’d argue that as long as the base is a Margherita (dough, pizza sauce and cheese), anything you choose to put on top of it doesn’t take away from the fact that it is a pizza.

      Substitute any of the ingredients of the Margherita though, and we’re in murky waters.

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    Ironically, the most popular frozen pizza in Norway, Grandiosa, is considered something of a national dish. It’s also one of the worst frozen pizzas you’ll ever try, and is mainly popular only because of nostalgia.

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      I don’t know what it says about me and my love for pizza, but your comment makes me want to try it even more.

      I’ve tried many a bad pizza, but I’ve yet to find one inedible, and that makes me curious.

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        Mmmm apparently this is a Grandiosa. I’d eat that.

        Looks like a Celeste frozen pizza. Ate those when we were poor and broke. I buy Screamin’ Silician nowadays, but the Celeste supreme one is still one of my guilty pleasures lol no joke.

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          It has the most important aspect of cheap frozen pizza. Which is the cheese having built up on one side because it was shipped that way in the truck.

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          I was going to say, that’s Celeste pizza if I’ve ever seen it. Which I get the nostalgia for. So bad, but even just seeing that photo is making me want what is essentially a large cracker with cheese on it.

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              Taco Bell is so good, as long as you just don’t consider it “Mexican food.”

              If I’m in the mood for Mexican food, I’ve got a ton of options for authentic Mexican food. But sometimes I’m in the mood for Taco Bell specifically.

              It’s when you conflate the two that you start running into problems.

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          Celeste was right where my mind went as well! The article said nostalgia was supposedly a big part of it, and I will eat a Celeste or even some Elios if I need a real throwback and I feel like I have a strong stomach that day!

          Let’s air mail some Celeste over in exchange for some Grandiosa. 😆

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            Oh I’ve never had Ellio’s before! I’m thinking it’s probably regional and we’re on different coasts xD

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              Oh man, Elios is total trash! 😆

              I think this pic looks better than I remember. It is a true industrial product!

              You take these planks out, and the bottom is perforated to break into three pieces if you want.

              Couldn’t find pic of the big case it used to come in, but me and my brother were just basically alone all summer on school break with a case of this that would just be replaced as necessary. Stuff like this is what got me to learn to cook, so I appreciate it in a roundabout way.

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                  My elementary school had pizza that looked like this. Not sure if it was the same stuff, but it was fairly similar at least.

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        It’s definitely not inedible. It’s just incredibly bland. Like most other Norwegian cuisine, unfortunately.

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          I made some sort of Norwegian dish for my ex (she’s Vietnamese, comes into play later) that she really wanted and missed from when she visited Norway. It was a casserole consisting of potatoes, cream, pickled Herring, and ground black pepper. Like, I’m pretty sure that’s every ingredient that went into this thing. I’m not even sure if there was any cheese or salt.

          I thought I screwed up somewhere because it was not good. She loved it because it was so bland and apparently I made it perfectly. I do not understand how she could go from eating food like bun bo hue to whatever the hell I made and enjoy it.

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            Sometimes it’s more about the texture than the flavour and potatoes with cream sounds delicious in that regard.

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          That’s kind of sad. Is there some Norwegian food that you would recommend? I don’t know if I’ve ever had anything specifically from there.

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            Brunost, brown cheese, which is something of an acquired taste. Cherry cheese. Tubed caviar, which is not the fancy gourmet dish you’d expect from the name. Offhand that’s what comes to mind about uniquely Norwegian stuff.

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              This kind of shit, alone, should be enough of an argument in favor of multicultralism…

              I’m sure they’re fine, but just reading the things you just listed made me lose my appetite lol

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                It’s not a great list, but alot has been left out.

                We also have, sheep and cabbage, lye-fish, whale, and blood pudding boiled in milk.

                You know what, yeah I’ll go get a Döner.

                Luckily we are a pretty multicultural society at least in the cities and everyone has brought their delicious foods over. Shame that were so sensitive to spice that some people think salt is to spicy :D

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                  I saw the sheep and cabbage, and I was expecting more of a stew, but all the pics looks like meat cut a minimum amount to fit in the pot with a quartered cabbage head tossed in. I mean, I’m sure I’d still like it as I like lamb (never found mutton here) and cabbage, but they don’t really seem to have gone for any kind of enticing presentation.

                  The lye part of the lutefisk doesn’t turn me off so much, but the descriptions calling it jelly-like don’t make my mouth water. Especially as it has the bones still in it if I recall correctly.

                  Whale has always intrigued me, but I feel I’ve heard more bad than good about the taste, plus I’d probably feel really bad about trying it.

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                  I hate to say this, but the delicious foods you’re getting in the cities, have mostly been watered down to suit the Norwegian palate 😂

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              I’d give that brunost a go, couldn’t find anything on cherry cheese, and the tubed caviar sounds like something my girlfriend would absolutely keep on hand. I’ll have to keep an eye out for these things.

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                Where do you live? I understand the states have a big Norwegian community.

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                  I’m East Coast between Philadelphia and New York. I think of the center north (Michigan/Minnesota) as where all the Scandinavians are.

                  I saw some things say Ikea stocked the Kelles Kaviar, but now they either don’t have it or they have some inferior house brand.

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      I knew a guy from Norway on a hostel in Argentina, I asked him what was their national dish and he told me that frozen pizza. I didn’t believe him and forced to give me a Real answer and he show me the Wikipedia article of some fish buried on snow for 3 months.

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        Hah! Lutefisk, yet another dish that exists today purely for nostalgia. It would also probably fail every food safety test in existence today if it wasn’t grandfathered in.

        For those not in the know, it’s fish preserved in lye, which is an extremely toxic substance. Preparing the dish involves cooking it for long enough to fully neutralise the lye, and any failure to fully do so results in poisoning, which can range from mild to extremely serious. I also hate to imagine what byproducts might be left behind as a result of the lye.

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        I hear Sweden puts bannana, curry, and ham on pizza. I like some weird foods, but I haven’t tried that yet…

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          Simultaneously?

          Now that I think about it though, pizza with a curry sauce could be really good. No thanks on the banana though.

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            The banana was the main sticking point for me as well, but with all the other stuff, I can’t imagine you’d get much banana flavor coming through, just a sweetness and texture.

            This just made me remember my brother used to do the thing Mr Rogers recommended: putting a slice of American cheese around a banana. There’s gotta be some weird food chemistry at work here if banana + cheese pops up multiple places…

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          You forgott peanuts and french fries, or chips as it’s really are named.

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            Wow, you are sending me down quite the rabbit hole here…

            Fries seems pretty sensible actually. Pizza fries are already a thing. Tossing some straight on top of a pie I think could add a nice crispy element to the topside, and as someone who loves the crust, more crispy starchy stuff is no issue. Saw pics with fries and hot dogs, and that seems like an unusual sausage flavor to add to a pizza, but I wouldn’t turn my nose up to a slice or two. Calling that American style is definitely fair.

            At first, I was less down with peanuts, thinking of that as the sole topping on a pizza. Too different a texture. But then seeing it called African pizza with all the curry, bananna, and ham, now that gives me more of a peanut stew vibe, and other than it basically subbing bananna in place of the carrot, African peanut stew is something I am totally down for. I just may need to make one of these up!

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              The banana pizza is generally considered to have originated from a 70s casserole dish, known as Flying Jacob. How and why people decided to put it on pizza i still wonder, but everyone has their own tastes.

              On the other hand, pizzas with fries are bangin. Theyre usually put on top of a Kebabpizza. Goated hangover food, would recommend trying at least once.

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                Wow, the original casserole makes the pizza version sound better! 😁

                It should make sense that the spread of quick and odd casseroles was a worldwide thing. None of us were spared these strange concoctions.

                The kebab pizza does sound pretty amazing. It’s not that kebabs are hard to find in America, at least in most places I’ve been, but I’m always surprised they aren’t more mainstream. With all the mega chain fast food we have, none of it is as good as your random kebab, it’s not any faster, and I wouldn’t be shocked if the kebab was at least marginally healthier, more filling, and has less weird stuff in it. It’s not like a kebab is much different component-wise than a typical burger, and it’s just as, if not moreso customizable.

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              There are a few places in the US that put spaghetti on pizza… Yeah tried it, yeah it’s nasty.

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              Many countries have an American style pizza, and I’ve never seen one that you’d ever get served in America. But the Hawaiian pizza seems to be the same everywhere. Then of course, if I were asked to make an American style pizza I don’t know where I’d even start.

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      Tuna pizza is the best, and Americans are so missing out on it with their bizarre narrowminded gatekeeping of pizzatoppings. Americans have like 3 things that are allowed as pizza toppings, which is so strange considering pizza should just be a vehicle for whatever goodness you want to put on it. Even the otherwise food conservative Italians have figured this out with their pizza al taglio.

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        Pizza a taglio is actually something almost exclusively found in and around Rome.

        BTW even regular pizzas have various toppings, they just need to make sense (for example tuna and onions is a possibility).

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      My friend, I’ve had an abomination of a cheeseburger pizza (in the US) that used mayo like sauce.

      And fish? You do know anchovies are an amazing (if somewhat niche, but archetypal) topping.

      Heck, did you know pineapple is a common topping? oof. Of all things to put on a pizza!

      Then there are those weirdly delicious mashed potato or Mac n’ cheese pizzas.

      And let’s not forget the blasphemous Alfredo sauce “pizzas.” Get that as a surprise on a slice of what looked like pepperoni at the Pizza Ranch on the buffet and just try not to throw up.

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        I went on a first date with a girl who ordered a slice of “big Mac” cheeseburger pizza with McDonald’s secret sauce and American cheese

        She wanted me to try a bite. I did. It was terrible. She loved it

        No accounting for taste, I guess

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        I don’t really mind a Red Baron or Tony’s. I think frozen pizza fails most dramatically when it forgets what it is. A home oven can manage a cracker-style crust kind of okay, and within the category of frozen pizza it can be better or worse. It’s the rising crust and “gourmet flatbread” and the overly-topped nonsense where frozen pizza just becomes a sad mush of unfulfilled ambition.

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          And I’m sure we don’t want to know what is done to the crust to make it do fancy things.

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      A stupid combination of lazyness, a very successfull ad campaign long ago and nostalgia.

      Same thing why they have taco friday (only due to texmex ads) or why they still stick to the absolutely boring bolle (rasinbreads) as main food for schoolkids.

      Sorry for the rant, i just hate the food “culture” here…

      Edit: ok lazyness is an unbased accusation, scratch that…

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      I don’t think Norwegians are rich; just happy. I think they’re secure - food security, healthcare security, general safety, no lynching of gay people - in ways that other countries (ohai America and Somalia) may think is the kind of security only afforded to the very rich.

      So, in this case, the people of Norway may appear rich to people who don’t have their basic needs covered, and it may be an enviable state to be in, just to be free of the daily worry and grind for the most basic of needs, but I’m sure the average Norwegian doesn’t identify as rich, and is not in a position to understand how well they have it in comparison to other countries.

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        Noone identifies as rich, because as you become richer, your social circle also becomes richer. So you never really feel rich, because there are other people who are, significantly, richer than you.

        If you dont worry about food, shelter and healthcare then you are rich(or at least “middle class”), ie free to do whatever the fuck you want with no risk or fear. You can have very low personal net worth but if your family(and/or society) has your back, no matter what, then you are not poor.

        And since Norway has one of the highest home ownership rates, among non shitty countries, then even from a networth point of view, most norwegians probably have 500k+ € networth. Most countries with high home ownership are poor countries, where houses are cheap and shitty(people are migrating out of the country, so a lot of houses are available). Or countries like China and Singapore, where housing is a major priority for the government.

        And in before “communism”, Singapore is one of the most capitalistic countries on the planet. But providing housing is a big part of their social contract and how the dictatorship has managed to maintain control over the country for over half a century with minimum opposition. And tbh, the chinese government is similar. Authoritarian but provides economic prosperity/housing in order to keep society stable. Also communist mostly in name but actually capitalistic.

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    In Alsace they had their version of a pizza, a tarte flambée or flammekueche. Basically a pizza with onions and cheese.