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The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldM to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

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    This is a useful technology…for tyrants.

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      Potential PTSD treatment. I think this is the plot to a movie or book though, where soldiers are taken advantage of.

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        There was definitely a Black Mirror about it.

        Sidenote: It’s weird to me that more people don’t talk about the inevitability of that one with the soldiers with cybernetic HUD implants that, shocking twist later, can make civilians look like monsters to be purged.

        On the other hand, why bother when the Boston Dynamics murderbots are probably cheaper?

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        Universal Soldier?

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        I think I read the book you mention! I thought about it recently but could not remember the name

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      I agree. But I also wouldn’t mind forgetting one or two things. However, I’ve also watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, so I know it ends with me having perpetual dementia-like fever dreams.

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    It reminds me of that old joke of the 2 scientists studying a fly.

    Scientist 1: Fly, fly! Scientist 2: When fly has two wings fly flies 2 feet.

    Scientist 1: pulls off one wing and says Fly, Fly! Scientist 2: When fly has 1 wing, fly flies 1 foot

    Scientist 1: pulls off the other wing and says, Fly, fly!. Nothing happens Scientist 1 Fly, Fly! Nothing happens Scientist 1 showing frustration> FLY! FLY! Scientist 2: When fly has no wings, fly becomes deaf.

    Bad-dum!

    • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOPM
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      I like this. First time hearing it.

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        That’s good, 'cause the fly can’t.

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    Whew, hopefully he’ll forget he’s supposed to track me till the end of time

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      Sorry bucko, it was a decoy snail

    • edgarallenpwn@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Snailman Mode

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        That’s incredible, I was aware of the tileman mode plug in, but this is inspired.

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    Scientists: No guys seriously what have we done I can’t remember

    • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOPM
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      Oh no, they fried the part of their brain that could tell the difference between snails and humans!

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    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Snail

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      But sunshine is bad for snails! Noooooooooo!

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      Finally! A therapy to make me forget that movie!

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    Since the comments all appear to be juvenile Reddit style jokes, here’s TFA (the frickin article: https://futurism.com/scientists-selectively-erased-memories-in-snails-are-we-next#

    Note, I’m not a scientist.

    As I suspected it appears they tortured the snails somehow (my guess is electric shock) to create traumatic memories. This has been done with caterpillars I think to see if they retain memories after turning into butterflies and they do, despite basically turning into primordial goop in the cocoon. They do, and it’s tested by seeing if they retain aversions to certain areas of their cages that are electrified.

    Then something about enzymes created which associate memory with pain and being able to target them.

    Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I’d like erased.

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      Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I’d like erased.

      It’s kinda neat, but I for one do not want to see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind become a documentary. I mean I like the movie and all…but.

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      We can kinda do that. There are therapies that target trauma and recontextualize them. Look up EMDR, it’s really cool stuff.

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        There is debate about how the therapy works and whether it is more effective than other established treatments.[1][5] The eye movements have been criticized as having no scientific basis.[6] The founder promoted the therapy for the treatment of PTSD, and proponents employed untestable hypotheses to explain negative results in controlled studies.[7] EMDR has been characterized as a pseudoscientific purple hat therapy (i.e., only as effective as its underlying therapeutic methods without any contribution from its distinctive add-ons).[8]

        I read about that fifteen years ago and dismissed it as pseudoscience. Wikipedia confirms. Pass (thanks though, don’t mean to be rude)

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      How is torturing an animal cool?

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        Because it can lead to treatment for human suffering. He says it in his post

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          Causing harm to some other group to help your own group has been an excuse used to justify slavery for hundreds of years.

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            Comparing slaves to animals has been used to justify slavery for hundreds of years.

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              Yes, so let’s respect everyone’s autonomy. No species should be abused.

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        🕵️‍♂️🐜

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    Finally I can replay Outer Wilds.

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      Yes. Good god yes. Was disappointed by the dlc though unfortunately. I want to like it but I just don’t.

      But also replay Inscryption

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        It honestly was too scary for me. I don’t do horror games. The angler fish in the main game was almost too much for me

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      I can play Omori without having been spoiled!

    • Delta_44@lemmy.world
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      EXACTLY, I feel the same

    • OtakuAltair@lemm.ee
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      Such a great game. I’d also play through Undertale again with this

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    I think the scientists are more worried about why the snail’s head is the size of a human rather than the memory loss…

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      It’s the long hidden aliens that were driving the latest non-human aircraft

      • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOPM
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        Maybe the snail meme was a CIA guerilla training operation.

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          Wait, the snails are training the gorillas? We’re through the looking glass here, people!

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            I want off this goddamn Jefferson airplane!

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        so aliens are actually just big snails, like the Voth from Star Trek

        Interesting

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      Every time I walk into another room.

    • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOPM
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      Well the scientists must be zapping me a lot in that case.

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        It’s probably at your request, to help you get rid of a horrible / painful memory (comedy skit).

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          Haha, this skit really feels like it’s 14 years old. First time seeing it, thanks!

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      Pfft this guy doesn’t know how to see the invisible whales 🙄

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      Chemtrails are real but the chemicals are usually amnestics

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    Why is the snail so large?!

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      It doesn’t remember, sorry.

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        Exactly the reason they had to fund this project.

        Cheaper than the lawsuit.

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          The scientists first enlarged the snail, but when the snail was too large to make love to his snail wife or hug his snail children without crushing them, he decided to sue. That is until he suddenly got amnesia somehow.

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            But that means he has a giant snail dick too! Shouldn’t his snail wife be happy?

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              It’s too big.

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                It’s not the size of the boat, it’s the motion in the ocean!

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      So they could use a normal sized eraser, duh.

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    decoy snail

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      Oh no the real one escaped

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        Probably a racing snail.

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    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mollusk

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    Small know knew too much.

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    I can give snails brain (ganglia?) damage too, you’re not that special, scientists.

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    My question is, how do they know what a snail is thinking or remembers? Last I knew snails didn’t talk.

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      Probably something like the snail learned to find food in a certain place, then they were able to make it forget such that it would search randomly instead of going to the place it had learned.

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        Lol, I can see it now.

        “Im going to sit here for 8-12 hours and watch where this snail goes today.”

        Sorry couldn’t resist.

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          Sounds like a good job.

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      I read a study once about caterpillars getting shocked in their cages to teach them which areas are electrified. They retained this memory aversion after turning into butterflies. Probably something similar, basic behavioral observations to stimuli.

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