Way to go, Florida man

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    Racists are never the sharpest tools in the shed. Most racist man I ever knew was never wronged by anyone except people of his own race, go figure.

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    Like all for all other Nazi-style movements, Zionists are going into the next stage of ethno-Fascism: the part were the Zionists start killing other members of the ethnicity they claim to represent for “not being White enough”.

    (Just go check how they treat Ethiopian Jews is Israel if you have any doubt that they’re a white supremacist movement)

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      Those evil white supremacists Jews got out of their way to save Ethiopian Jews with covert airlifts. There were continuous efforts to bring Ethiopia Jews to Israel, lead by Natanyahu among others.

      Sure there’s prejudice around skin color and discrimination, but isn’t this the case all around the world? Ethiopian Israelis have their struggles, but overall their community is doing very well. Bibi Netanyahu has many times publicly denounced racism against Ethiopian Jews and met with victims of violence. Here Bibi celebrates an Ethiopian IDF officer publicly as a hero to standing ovations. There are special scholarships for Ethiopian Jews to higher education and integrate them better into society. The IDF makes an effort in this field as well.

      Let’s listen to what Ethiopian Jews have to say about this,

      https://youtu.be/uBFN91t2z28?si=_udk-Q_6VVkwqNKH&t=236

      Why do black Palestinians in Gaza mostly live in a quarter named Al Abeed meaning literally slave?

      Nazi-style movements, Zionists

      Oh it’s blatant antisemitism time again.

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        It’s not antisemitism, it’s anti-Zionism. And accusations of Zionism being fascist aren’t new. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

        An extract: ‘Albert Einstein, in a letter to The New York Times in 1948, compared Irgun and its successor Herut party to “Nazi and Fascist parties” and described it as a “terrorist, right wing, chauvinist organization”.’

        But what would a genius German Jew who escaped the Holocaust know about fascism, right?

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          The Irgun were legit far right terrorists and committed atrocities.

          Here’s what Einstein actually said about Zionism.

          Long before the emergence of Hitler I made the cause of Zionism mine because through it I saw a means of correcting a flagrant wrong…The Jewish people alone has for centuries been in the anomalous position of being victimized and hounded as a people, though bereft of all the rights and protections which even the smallest people normally has…Zionism offered the means of ending this discrimination. Through the return to the land to which they were bound by close historic ties…Jews sought to abolish their pariah status among peoples… The advent of Hitler underscored with a savage logic all the disastrous implications contained in the abnormal situation in which Jews found themselves. Millions of Jews perished… because there was no spot on the globe where they could find sanctuary…The Jewish survivors demand the right to dwell amid brothers, on the ancient soil of their fathers.

          If we wait until the Great Powers and the United Nations fulfill their commitments to us then our Palestinian brothers [i.e. the Jews in Palestine] will be under the ground before this is accomplished" and "On the destiny of our Palestinians [i.e. the Jews in Palestine] will depend, in the long run, the destiny of the remaining Jews in the world. For no one respects or bothers about those who do not fight for their rights

          Albert Einstein was a socialist labor Zionist, which was the mainstream of Zionism back then.

          Einstein left Germany in 1932 before the Nazis took power. His nationality was Swiss, not German.

          To you Einstein is just a token Jew to use for your campaign of hate. You don’t give an actual shit about him or the Holocaust. They’re only tools to fight against Israel‘s existence. It’s the vile face of contemporary antisemitism.

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            Uhhhhhh no it’s not. There is nothing about believing that Israel is committing a genocide against the Palestinian people (they are) that prevents someone from simultaneously believing that the holocaust happened and was just as bad as is commonly understood (it did and it was).

            It’s like saying that accusing me of being a thief is denying that time I was robbed.

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              Nice Holocaust denial you got there. What’s happening in Gaza is terrible but not like Holocaust.

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                You can’t just call everything you disagree with holocaust denial. Doing so is holocaust denial.

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    Because if they really were Palestinians, obviously that would’ve been perfectly A-OK?

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        Aren’t both Israelis and Palestinians part of the group known as Semitic people?

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          Not really used as a term anymore outside of anti-semite meaning anti-jew

          But yes, they are both in the Middle East

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          Technically yes, although the term “anti-Semitic” (as the German word Antisemitismus) originally became established through specifically anti-Jewish conspiracy writings in the late 1800s. So the term “anti-semitic” generally means anti-Jewish, rather than literally being against Semitic peoples.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Origin_and_usage

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      It’ll be renamed to the “Holy Land of America” on Google maps any day now, so I guess they’ll all get called “Ameristinians” as a catch-all term.

      OBVIOUSLY /s

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        They’ll probably call themselves Patresortians to reflect how great patriots they are to be proud of making such a terrible place so beatiful (in their minds).

        Same way American emmigrants like to call expats instead of emmigrants

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      Israeli prime minister Golda Meir said she’s a Palestinian.

      The use of the word Palestinian changed over time. Before the establishment of Israel Palestinian was often used specifically to refer to Jews living in the holy land. Lots of Jewish founded institutions like airlines, newspapers, sports teams, orchestras were named Palestinian. They changed their names after Israel was founded.

      The Arabs used Palestinian as their national identity only after Israel was established. The Palestinian identity as we know it today coalesced in the 1960s.

      Before the British Mandate for Palestine, the Arabs in the region tended to identify as Syrian.

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      Somehow the takes responding to this post (tho satirical) just kept getting hotter

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      During the British mandate they called themselves Palestinians. Because of their independence they’re no anymore

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    at the core of every genocide is some sickeningly arbitrary difference that not even the people enacting the genocide can fully discern. Palestinians are indigenous to the Levant, just like Jews were. they just survived the ethnic cleansing enacted by the romans differently. similarly by both russia, and many Ukrainians telling of the origins of the rus, they originated from Kyiv. back in the 1930s and 40s, the Germans had to invent more and more arbitrary ways to identify Jews because since resettlement in Galitsye (today divided between Germany, Chzechia, Poland, russia, and Ukraine) Jews integrated themselves into the indigenous population (in large part thanks to unprecedented religious tolerance on behalf of the people of Galitsye and later Poland) meaning telling who was and wasn’t Jewish was hard to impossible for the German officers responsible for deciding who to kill.

    my point is this: arbitrarily killing Palestinians is antisemitic. it runs even a little deeper than simply “Palestinians are semitic, just like me” given that their cultural traditions are shared. it gets into violence against my sister is violence against me. harm against Palestinians is harm against Jews. once there are no more identifiably Palestinian people left to kill, next will come the Jews who aren’t identifiably non-Palestinian enough. and who decides who that is? where does the killing stop?

    the best way to avoid being killed in a genocide is to prevent genocide from happening. the second best way is to bring ongoing genocides to an end. unfortunately, it is falling to us, the populace, to defend ourselves from the military apparatus of the imperial powers of the globe. a great battle is about to unfold between the forces of good, evil, and indifference, just as it has approximately every 80 years throughout history. part of our aim in thi; battle is to preserve our message that we were here. that there was good in the world even at its worst.

    i hope you’ve read a diary of a young girl by anne frank, and understand its gravity. it breaks my heart that a 13 year old saw all of what i’m seeing and chose to make her death meaningful as a story that passes this tale of resistance and kindness in the face of atrocity to me, but the point is that her voice made it through. so please, don’t put her pain to waste. start taking actions you think 80 years from now someone who learns what you did during this time will be proud of, and find inspiring. even if it’s something as simple as documenting the things you see, or growing food to share with your neighbors.

    do what our ancestors did when faced with these times, plant trees the shade of which your physical body will never rest under

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      Careful. Zionists get very sad if you mention that Arabs are Semites.

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      Palestinians is antisemitic. it runs even a little deeper than simply “Palestinians are semitic

      Antisemitism only means hatred of Jews and nothing else. Trying to water the term down like you’re doing is extremely bad faith and usually done to give cover to antisemites.

      That said, yes, many Palestinians have Jewish ancestors.

      once there are no more identifiably Palestinian people left to kill, next will come the Jews

      That’s some shizo level rambling.

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        Don’t tell me how to interface with hatred against my Jewish identity that I have to face every day. Don’t tell me to look at the hate perpetrated in my name against my sisters and not to speak against it, especially when the hatred is deranged and twisted and harms me as well. You’re welcome to disagree with me that our two people’s are intrinsically linked to each other by history and culture, which apparently you do, but this is not a bad faith argument. This is something I believe with my entire heart. Jews and Palestinians are one people. Zionism is an act of hate against both.

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          You’re welcome to disagree with me that our two people’s are intrinsically linked to each other by history and culture

          I agree with that part.

          Your abuse of the word antisemitism is what I take issue with.

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        You gonna tell us you can’t be a Nazi unless you’re in 1940’s Germany sieg heiling to Hitler next? lol

        Fucking dumb fuck pedants.

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          Isn’t it funny what end of this quote Israel is on these days

          Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

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      Palestinians is antisemitic. it runs even a little deeper than simply “Palestinians are semitic

      Antisemitism only means hatred of Jews and nothing else. Trying to water the term down like you’re doing is extremely bad faith and usually done to give cover to antisemites.

      That said, yes, many Palestinians have Jewish ancestors.

      once there are no more identifiably Palestinian people left to kill, next will come the Jews

      That’s some shizo level rambling.

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    I assume if he had shot Palestinians like he thought he did, DeSantis would have given him some sort of award.

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    Its Don’t mess with the Zohan all over again lmao

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    it will be the year 9999 and we will still be reading about the “Man in Florida”

    BTW Free Palestine

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    Anyone left at the justice department for those hate crime charges? Seems like an open and shut case