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Haters are gonna hate hate hate hate hate.
Guess I’l just shake it off…
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Smart cookie undersells it dramatically. Taylor Swift is a marketing and possibly a financial genius who has locked herself into the collective consciousness of the country. I used to try to not listen to her music at all, but my daughter and wife absolutely love her, so it’s all I get to listen to around them. She’s had virtually 0 truly bad press surrounding her. You don’t have to like her music, but you have to respect her ability to sell her image and music.
If nothing else, she is an incredible business woman.
She is also an extremely talented musician and entertainer. I am not even a fan, just acknowledging that she has put out solidly constructed music and tours for well over a decade and is clearly far more than just a fad.
She’s incredibly shrewd with business. Her father was in finance and it shows. She knows her shit.
You don’t have to like her music, but you have to respect her ability to sell her image and music.
Actually this is a point of conflict for some of her fans. Some of my friends are swifties and they hate consumerism and high concert prices and collectibles and marketing that incentivize FOMO to spend more money. They jokingly call her their capitalist queen.
At least they’re self-aware about it.
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Are you in my friend circle, because same with my swiftie friends
I completely agree except for one small thing:
She’s had virtually 0 truly bad press surrounding her.
I’d say her dating a scumbag (the singer from The 1975) generated a fair bit of bad press. But it was usually fans yelling “DUMP THAT SHITHEAD”
Also a bit of bad press surrounding her egregious usage of her private jets
And the ticket prices.
I side eyed her because of that Matty guy.
She probably got that from her parents. They made the smart move to buy a farm and legitimize her country status. And I bet it was the parents idea to do country first and than transition to pop. The country genre was an easier market to break into at the time since country fans, back when she was an unknown, were still buying CDs at Walmart and such. So these store would put a larger selection of country music on the shelves than any other genre. Meaning a smaller country artist would get shelve space.
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The biggest lie you’ve been told in music is that American folk/country music is a southern thing. It’s not and never has been. Just another thing the narcissistic South stole from the rest of the country.
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You mean pop country.
She’s had virtually 0 truly bad press surrounding her
Eh, she literally had an album titled reputation because hers was not so great at the time. This was when people were calling her a snake with the whole Kanye thing.
So, virtually 0 bad press that actually matters, yeah. Good point.
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They are aware that the more people that vote the less likely they are to get elected.
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It’s known that more people voting generally leans left.
By all means GOP, please pick a fight with Taylor Swift. 🍿🍿
As someone else has said before, Taylor Swift could tweet “Bring me the head of Ron Desantis” and he would be dead in a week.
“won’t someone rid me of this meddlesome cunt?”
Sounds like the beginning of the purge
(its a reference to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest )
‘turbulent cunt’ would bring it up a notch
To be fair, he really does seem like the meddlesome type.
“Charlie who?”
Never fuck with female singer songwriters.
He fumed in another all-caps post that “THE CHILDLESS, UNMARRIED ABORTION ARMY MOBILIZED BY BARBIE, TAYLOR SWIFT, AND TIKTOK” was “CRUSHING REPUBLICANS AT THE BALLOT BOX.”
You are goddamn right it is.
I am inevitable.
What I’m getting out of that is that he hates women.
Prerequisite for being GOP.
I want to believe…so for now, I will.
Keep kicking ass Margot!
It’s either a very dedicated imposter or the real deal which would mean Margot Robbie is a giant nerd. I choose the latter option but would not be surprised by the former.
Margot Robbie is one of the smartest and savviest women in Hollywood, and is definitely one of the most likely celebrities to be using Lemmy and the Federated internet. She’s also clever enough to hide in plain sight, by using her own name, knowing that others will just assume she’s not the real Margot.
That’s what’s so sneaky about it. It’s genius, honestly
Next thing you are going to tell me is that I’m actually intentionally leaving contradictory “hints” in my comments to protect my privacy online, or something like that.
I’d expect nothing less, honestly
It’s not her, I’ve seen them say as much in previous threads. It’s just some sad dude playing pretend.
Unfortunately, it has seemed to work. It appears as though we’re not much different than reddit after all.
Yay
you keep doing you, we love you
Fascists create enemies out of everyone who isn’t a fascist, then complain how they’re surrounded by enemies.
Thank you for your service!
Clearly a balanced reasonable stance.
You know that it’s like super creepy to impersonate a celebrity like that. Get a hobby.
Edit: And here I thought Lemmy was different. But nope, thoughtless novelty accounts already being deified. This shit isn’t even clever, it’s just a “hot celebrity’s” name. Wow.
Lazy, uninspired, and just not funny. There’s nothing creative or interesting in making your username “Margot Robbie” and having people fawn all over you. It’s probably a middle aged dude.
I guess I’m the only one who finds that creepy. I imagine Margot herself probably would too.
But go ahead and validate some weird fucking dude cosplaying as a celebrity (who, remember, is a real actual person).
Parasocial weirdos.
People like you don’t make the world better, just more boring for everyone
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Maybe BBS will be sufficiently boring for you.
boring
Yes, nothing sates boredom like *checks notes* seeing a (likely) middle aged man cosplay as a celebrity on lemmy. You know, a real person. Not a character.
Can you people really not see how fucking creepy that is?
How is this shit clever or funny or novel in any way? It’s not even an attempt at parody or satire.
Do you also get creeped out by biopics? Someone playing someone else who isn’t them? What a terrible crime. At the very worst it’s someone spending their time to entertain us. It’s really not that unusual.
Lol comparing this to biopics… What a fucking joke. A piece of literal art (whether I enjoy it or not), written, rewritten, casted, produced, rewritten again, thousands of people working together to create a film from literally nothing…
Totally the same thing as a creepy dude making their username “Margot Robbie” like it’s creative or funny… Totally the same thing. Same level of creativity and execution.
Also, perhaps most importantly, biopics of living people are rarely, if ever, made without that person’s (or their estate’s) permission. They have rights about their image being used. And, if the movie is defamatory, the person can sue.
This isn’t even apples and oranges. We’re comparing two completely different types and classes of foods.
You know that it’s like super creepy to refer to Margot Robie as “just a hot celebrity”?
And hobby? What the hell do you think this is? It isn’t a damn job. Lemmy is recreational. Vanity accounts are fun and appropriate.
The point was that it’s lazy, uninspired and just not funny. I guess the standards for humor/novelty are very low around here.
Like they’re not even creating anything, its not parody or satire or anything. They just made their username Margot Robbie and pretend to be her. Sometimes. And people just fawn over it.
Frankly, if I were her, that kind of shit would seriously weird me out.
Bunch of parasocial weirdos.
I think there are two concepts that are still eluding you.
One, Margot Robie is larger than a person, not smaller. She’s not just some pretty women. She’s shorthand for a very complex collection of aesthetics, politics, and voices. She’s an idea, she’s an answer. Using her name is meant more to be evocative rather than convincing.
Two, we’re all just farting around here, man. We’re sharing star trek memes and complaining about opening noisy food packaging in the middle of the night. Of course it’s lazy? No one is trying to construct the Sistine Chapel.
If every place you go you’re confronted with disappointment, maybe you’re in the wrong place?
As someone who was as reddit since long before the digg migration, and remembers how it was like. And how lemmy reminds me a bit of it… Forgive me for trying to avoid this place turning into that shit fest. I saw it happen in real time, and it starts with awful shit like this.
Nothing wrong with a clever novelty account, but fruit is the lowest of the low hanging. Not to get too serious, It brings the entire discourse down. Obviously, I see the comment scores, and I know most of the people here seem to disagree, but I’ve seen this happen. More than once. And they started with good novelty accounts. This shit is insulting to people’s intelligence.
I thought people here were more intelligent and high brow than to find “hurr durr, their username is Margot Robbie, and that’s really funny because she’s a really famous woman known for her looks, not the technical abilities most people on lemmy have! Hahahahaha” just… What? Lazy and boring. Not even hacky because it’s not even comedy.
Just do better, that’s all.
Bring the downvotes. Make sure you validate 43 year old Frank, from Boseman, Montana, for being smart and clever enough to come up with such a brilliant idea. I mean, to make your username THAT? Just inspired…
My man, it’s just a username. The comments section of a frankly niche social network are not the portents of the apocalypse.
Also, you roll around insulting people, calling them creepy and lazy, telling them to “do better”. What is it that you bring to the table? Disproportionate outrage? Negativity? “Bring on the down votes” sounds more like vintage bad-times reddit than anything this Margot Robie user has done.
Nah, just pointing out the creepiness of it that’s all. The creepiness, and just the lack of creativity involved. This is the kind of shit that makes the internet look bad and creepy to normal people.
Honestly, as creepy as “impersonating” a celebrity is, I don’t even completely blame that particular person. It may not have even have been their intention for it to get like this.
The stranger part about it all, to me, is the reaction they get when posting literally anything. That’s kind of what skives me out I guess. I’ve seen them posting all over the place, and it’s just weird to see people grovel to an account simply because the username is the name of a celebrity. And they want to believe.
Lots of people think it’s really her, and I’ve seen some weird shit… I dunno man, just doesn’t add anything of value imo, so I felt like pointing it out at the time.
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Lemme, like the rest of the internet, is pretty ass. There’s not much that can be done at this point. I try to step back and just view it as a way to understand human nature when given total freedom and anonymity
conservatives once again upset that more people are voting… because reality has a liberal bias.
Yep, if “more people voting” makes you furious then you just might be reaching the level of mustache-twirling cartoon villainy.
Don’t want to keep losing elections, conservatives? Adopt better policies. Nominate qualified candidates. And for fuck sake kick out the god damn nazis.
I would be interested to hear that they officially adopted any policies at all, it seems to be, “elect more of us so there are more of us so we can continue to try to elect more of us” the last person from the right wing I heard try to push a policy while running for office died 5 years ago
Mustache-twirling cartoon villainy is exactly who these clowns are.
Not to mention they and their policies are trash.
GOP for the last 40 years: destroys the climate, job market, economy, education, and healthcare
“Did Taylor Swift do this?”
Did I have bad policies?
No. It is the Swifties who are wrong!
“Dammit, Taylor Swift shat my pants again.”
Talk about a child prodigy: started ruining everything at -7 years old!
Being upset that people were encouraged vote is admitting your ideas rely on suppression.
Knowing THOSE idiots, they’d probably just be like “yeah, so what?”
They very much are. They openly gerrymander and openly wonder why the Democrats don’t. They interviewed the guy that started it and he’s literally confused why it wasn’t done by the Democrats.
Kirk continued: “All the Swifties want is swift abortion. That’s what they want. It’s 100%.”
i’m fucking crying how do you say this shit and look yourself in the mirror after
HAYLEY! YOU GO GET PREGNANT AND GET AN ABORTION RIGHT NOW!!!
If by that he means ‘swiftly abort the GOP’, I’m on board.
They’re thoroughly assuaged by the rolls of $100s that the idiots throw at them
If your political party is so weak that it can be defeated by Swifties, maybe you should rethink some things.
If Taylor Swift wanted to stage a coup, I don’t think even the US military could stop the Swifties. God help us if the Swifties ever team up with the K-Pop Stans.
Well, after all it couldn’t POSSIBLY their horrific policies, or their proud racism, or thier proud nationalism, or their hate for the LGBTQIA+, or their stance of abortion, or birth control, or wanting to outlaw divorce, or them wanting to leave people starving in the streets.
No, it must be some other thing causing their losses.Also how pathetic is it, that seasoned career criminals eeh politicians and propagandists lose to checks notes a pop musician whosse main topic is her ex boyfriends?
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always remember: the cruelty is the point.
Apologies for being straightforward, but emotional hyperbole like this does not help anything.
Did you ever just stop to consider that in their belief system they believe that a child in a womb is a living being, and not just a clump of cells, and that they see it as murder to abort it?
Not saying that’s true or not, just that’s how they see it. And if you want to change their minds, you need to attack that philosophy, and not just brand them as cruel persons to be shunned/destroyed.
Finally, I get you’re going to want to just attack me personally for calling you out on the hyperbole, but please, consider the words I’ve said here. I’m not just saying that for my own gratification, but hopefully to help you help change the world.
If this were the case why do they consistently vote against government support birth control, pregnancy support programs, maternity leave, and aid programs to mothers? Be a bit like vegans demanding tax breaks for the beef industry or doctors wanting cigarette machines in middle schools.
If I thought it was murder I would definitely be doing what I could to make murder happen less often. And I know this because when I was a theist I leaned towards it being more restrictive and still supported government programs.
If this were the case why do they consistently vote against government support birth control, pregnancy support programs, maternity leave, and aid programs to mothers?
Again, it comes down to their belief systems, “be fruitful and multiply”, etc., etc.
If I thought it was murder I would definitely be doing what I could to make murder happen less often.
I’m just repeating what I’ve heard from conservatives I spoke to directly as well as conservatives who spoke out loud on TV and other media.
And I know this because when I was a theist I leaned towards it being more restrictive and still supported government programs.
IMO I don’t think they’re really thinking about government programs when they’re trying to protect unborn life (as they put it). From someone on the outside looking in, it seems more of an emotional decision that they’re making, versus a logical one.
I have no problems with emotional decisions. I have a problem that they inconsistent. If you really really think that there should be more babies and abortion was murder you should also support massive infusions of government cash to protect those babies. Which they never do.
I agree that you heard them say that but just because someone is talking doesn’t mean they are being truthful. Again, I was on the other side of this issue and I remember what I believed. My parents had 5 kids, I have 11 cousins. I have always known that raising kids was difficult and the government should provide help.
I agree that you heard them say that but just because someone is talking doesn’t mean they are being truthful.
That could be said about anyone at any time about anything. To me that’s just hand waving away somebody else’s opinion so you don’t have to deal with it, and it’s not valid.
I can tell you I have some personal friends who are conservatives (as well those are liberal minded), and I’ve heard the same kind of comments from them as I described here, and I believe what they’re saying. Would be strangely weird for all my conservative friends to be coordination lying on something that doesn’t really require lying.
You know, you could go and ask them yourself, instead of just assuming that they’re lying and manipulating. Homo-sapiens are never that straightforward.
I am sorry your friends hate women
I agree that you heard them say that but just because someone is talking doesn’t mean they are being truthful.
Just a clarification, it was many people saying that over multiple decades in multiple instances on multiple media.
I personally have multiple friends who are conservative, from different families.
I point that out just to make the point that I don’t think they all were being untruthful, and IMO I think they all (or vast majority of) were being truthful to their belief system.
Are people telling the truth if there are a lot of them? Are people telling the truth if they say the same thing a decade apart in time? Or are people telling the truth about what they believe when they show a consistent resoned opinion that has all the basic objections to it understood?
I know people who make solid arguments for and against gun control and they all have a well thought out set of reasons and can usually deal with standard objections. I don’t see this at all with the forced birth crowd.
If this were the case why do they consistently vote against government support birth control, pregnancy support programs, maternity leave, and aid programs to mothers?
My guess would be because they don’t want to spend money on other people, or at least other people that are not inside of “their” group.
That and the inefficiency (in their minds) of government programs and how their hard-earned tax money is spent.
Finally as far as maternity leave goes, they don’t want to pay workers and not get work out of them, though I’m not sure that’s a conservative only philosophy, or more like a Capitalism one.
I reject the premise that being pro-life is about a moral conviction regarding the sanctity of life. If that is in fact the moral underpinning that informs the pro-life position, then we would expect to see a similar consistency with regard to all other issues relating to the protection of human life, but we don’t.
What it’s really about is controlling women and maintaining a hierarchy by ensuring that sex without reproductive consequences is impossible.
Pro-lifers tell themselves that it’s about the sanctity of life because by the rules of cognitive dissonance they have to rationalize a way to see themselves as the good guys, but again, all of that is belied by the fact that they don’t seem to believe in the primacy of human life in any other context.
Unfortunately, this kind of cognitive trick is a very human and very common thing. We all do it to one extent or another.
I reject the premise that being pro-life is about a moral conviction regarding the sanctity of life.
You can disagree with it, but you can’t dictate another person’s belief system, or hand-wave it away.
I dunno they seem pretty capable
Well, they can try, but it doesn’t make it so.
Sadly, while abortion is a losing issue for them, their racist politicians are often winning in the same ballots that abortion is being protected on. Conservative women will protect their right to abortions but still happily vote for racism at the same time.
That’s what these guys are missing. They are losing on abortion because enough Republicans care more about their own rights than about racism. Lucky for them, the ballot measures mean they don’t have to choose. They can protect abortion back home and keep on sending fascists to Washington.
I’d love to see the Republican party outlaw divorce. Over half of them will be prissy 10 years on being stuck with a wife they hate
Then they just get a few mistresses and god forgives their sins because why else would he have found another woman stupid enough to sleep with them?
It would be consistent with what Jesus said. He didn’t say, even be inference, a word about abortion but definitely had strong opinions on divorce.
“Taylor Swift is going to come out in the presidential election and she is going to mobilize her fans,” Kirk warned his viewers on Wednesday, adding, “And we’re going to be like, ‘Oh wow, where did all these young, female voters come from?’ We better have a plan for that.”
Kirk acknowledging a) the party does not attempt to represent young women and b) the current plan is that they hopefully just don’t vote.
No, the current plan is not that “they hopefully just don’t vote.” The plan is to actively prevent them from voting through various forms of suppression. They’re not just sit around waiting to see what happens.
TBH, actively trying to suppress voters isn’t even the worst of it. The next step is making sure that it doesn’t even matter if they do.
You know, like they already do. Source: Am in Ohio. There are already public statements from officials that they are trying to dilute/overrule/ignore the results of our vote to legalize abortion and weed. And that’s even outside things like gerrymandering.
That’s the whole point of their independent state legislature theory. They argue that the state legislature can simply declare their own election results if they don’t like the voters’ results and that nobody, not the executive nor the courts, can challenge them. They are literally arguing that we should dismantle democracy altogether and somehow people are still “bOtH sIdEs”-ing.
The point of The Great American Experiment was to use votes rather than bullets to select a leader.
It’s astonishing that their first thought is to oppose it by any means necessary when it passed with +14%.
Like dude, you’re just self sabotaging yourself and your party. This is just going to happen again and again until you accept it.
Weed too? I only saw headlines about abortion.
Yup. Issue 1 was abortion, issue 2 was weed. Both passed with about 57% support. Weed was ever so slightly more popular than abortion, but only a tiny bit
I mean I know it was on the ballot, but did the republicans says they wanted to ignore that part too?
Expect more stuff like this.
This quote from Posobiec is amazing:
“Republicans still haven’t internalized that the Left promotes abortion as a pro-feminism issue. They aren’t voting to kill babies, they’re voting bc of feminist movies like Barbie and pop stars like Taylor Swift influencing an army of voters,” Posobiec wrote.
If they are surprised about the connection between the abortion issue and women’s rights… wow. Are they really racking their brains to figure out why “killing babies” is a popular position? How stupid are these people?
Silly women wanting rights over their own bodies! Who do they think they are?? Men???
Not only their own bodies, but the right to end a potential offspring of a man?? /s
The left is promoting women’s rights as a women’s rights issue
Fixed that for him.
"Am I so out of touch?
No, its the women who are wrong."
“If all these damn people would stop VOTING we might be able to get some of our ‘highly popular’ policy through”
Whats your highly popular policy?
“Well you see, it’s based on this simple philosophy, fuck the poor.”
I never understand why so many people who are measurably disadvantaged by their platform will vote for it. Oh right, it’s because drag queens are the real enemy.
If the working class is too busy fighting amongst themselves, the rich can continue profiteering by looting everything.
From Immortal Technique’s Poverty of Philosophy.
Many of us are in the same boat and it’s sinking, while these bougie motherfuckers ride on a luxury liner, and as long as we keep fighting over kicking people out of the little boat we’re all in, we’re gonna miss an opportunity to gain a better standard of living as a whole
The hate and the fear of violence that many non-White communities or those the LGBT community or any other marginalized is genuine. We need to protect those in targeted communities while trying to get people to understand that the only real enemy, is the rich.
To paraphrase Beau of the Fifth Column, you have more in common with the average Chinese or Saudi or Russian or South African or Peruvian then you do with the rich in your own country.
It couldn’t possibly be because of a heinously corrupt and out of touch platform that promises to hurt some people and help nobody, could it?
No. It’s the Swifties who are to blame. Encouraging people to vote is liberal bias!
These are the people who see libraries, universities etc as liberal machines.
If education hurts your platform…
Yeah that’s one of the most telling things about the American conservative platform these days.
Anti education because education undermines their position.
Rely on the electoral college to get their candidate in office because they can’t win the popular vote.
Fight rabidly to preserve their gerrymandered districts because that’s the only way they can cling to power.
Invent and perpetuate lies and conspiracies because they need a distraction to keep their base afraid.
…not saying the other side doesn’t use some pages out of that playbook as well, but for the GOP, that’s their whole book.
Those regressive bitches don’t want to come for Swifties, they will bury them 😂
Or, now hear me out here, maybe it’s just the fact that people have noticed that they overtly hate women and are nuttier than squirrel shit.
If I had a penny for every time in the past day or so I read “nuttier than squirrel …” I would have two pennies, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
There used to be a tv advert for a chocolate bar called Topic. You can watch it here. Memes in those days used to travel by word of mouth but kids up and down the country were encouraged by older brothers and sisters to yell ‘Squirrel shit’ in answer to the sung prompt, “What has a hazelnut in every bite?”
My conservative neighbor is convinced in a conspiracy theory that TSwifty dating Travis Kelce is a scheme to get people to get the COVID vaccine. I wish I was joking, but he’s 100% serious.
Why’s he so concerned? Even if true, he could just shake it off, shake it off.
It’s cause he has a blank space, probably can barely write his name
He sounds like a nightmare, dressed like a hayseed.
It’s him. Hi. He’s the problem, it’s him.
I still don’t understand how these magats and conservative conspiracy theorists can think Covid was some deep state attempt at thought control when Trump was the one who takes all the credit for the vaccine
Reich-wingers have no trouble believing in contradictory things, it’s like 1984’s doublethink.
If a leftist talks about vaccines they’re a bad thing and have microchips in them to sterilize you or something.
If their Führer says the vaccines only happened thanks to him the vaccines are the best thing ever and will even cure homosexuality
Even less credible than the Chiefs fan I know who has theorized that she’s scheming to break his heart at some point during the playoffs in order to cost the team a Superbowl run.
I don’t think he’s serious, but I’m not 100% sure about it.
“And why did Taylor’s dad put $50 million on the chiefs to lose? FOLLOW THE MONEY, PEOPLE.”
People think Yoko ruined The Beatles when it was just everything building up to the inevitable. Shit, George tried to quit first.
Fun fact: Yoko Ono was a little girl living in Tokyo when the United
StartsSharts firebombed the city in 1945. Maybe that explains the screaming, I dunno.
How would that even work?
I must not be up on my pop culture.
Buckle up. Here’s his theory.
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COVID is a fake disease.
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The vaccine is part of some sinister government plot (to do what, only be knows).
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Kelce was in a commercial promoting the vaccine, obviously he’s working closely with the government for nefarious purposes.
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Kelce isn’t popular with young women. Enter T Swifty.
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Rather than simply have Tay Tay star in her own vaccine commercials, the government decided to have her date Kelce and therefore increase his popularity with her fanbase, therefore making them get the vaccine.
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???
originally the cookers where saying we were all supposed to drop dead in 18 months. then they changed it to 2 years. now I hear them saying 5 year plan to depoluate the earth. why a sinister organisation would kill all the compliant people and keep the stupid trouble makers around is anyone’s guess.
also, anytime some dies of literally anything, they jump up and down and blame the vaccine. one time I saw them doing this and the family came out to note the deceased was unvaxxed lol.
The problem with all these conspiracy nuts is that they can never answer one simple question. Why the theatrics? If what you say is true it would be incredibly expensive, require vast amounts of resources, and strict compliance like nothing the world has seen before. If this is all about “controlling us”, and the deep state/shadow government is as powerful as they claim whats with the theater? Wouldn’t it be easier, faster, and cheaper to just send in the Shadow government military forces to drag us all into the streets and say comply or die?
I’m pretty sure whenever it comes out that the deceased was unvaxxed it becomes part of the deep state conspiracy to silence dissenters
I mean, when you break it down like that, I guess I don’t see how I missed it before. Lol
That’s some Charlie Kelly whiteboard shit right there.
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How many guns does he have? (definitely a few)
He reloads his own ammo, if that helps answer your question.
That is a funny and nuanced answer
Please explain
