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      At this point, it’s probably a defense mechanism. Can you imagine the kind of soul crushing realization it would be to accept that you’re responsible for your spouse’s death because you got way too deep into shit posting on Facebook? It’s way, way more comfortable to displace that blame and rationalize it away.

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        I sort of feel like the exceedingly casual posting on Facebook about this very world-wrenching moment in his life is proof enough for me that he’s made a few horcruxes in his time and has a maimed soul.

        If I was in his shoes, those 3 words would be on loop in my head, and I’d be curled up in a foetal position bawling, insensate, forever. Like the end of a particularly disturbing Black Mirror ep.

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        Yeah, but don’t you think he still, even if it is just subconsciously, believes it up to a degree?

        It must be gnawing at him.

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          Yeah, he probably does. In between the space of consciousness and unconsciousness, when the frontal lobe can’t run defense anymore and the limbic system starts to lose its weighted clothing, it probably sneaks through. Probably right before he goes to sleep, or in his dreams, or when he’s spacing out on something, it sneaks up on him like the cat in the hat with a bat.

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        If this is real, I would absolutely feel for him. She would be an adult, though, and capable of making her own decisions.

        It’s far worse when it’s someone’s child.

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        Is the dude still an antivaxxer or was there a redemption arc? I feel like we need some before and after posts.

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          He just makes a lot of derogatory comments about women now, and just how Commie Pinko in Chief Joe Biden is ruining all the things. He shut up about COVID

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            So…he didn’t really learn anything from one of the darkest things that could possibly happen to a person. How…sad.

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              The problem is that most conservatives are simply incapable of introspection. Everything they do in life is in an effort to not be wrong about anything.

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                It doesn’t help that there’s a gigantic propaganda machine aimed at people like them. He definitely bares some responsibility, but all of these people are being manipulated. I hate it all so much…

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                He just makes a lot of derogatory comments about women now, and just how Commie Pinko in Chief Joe Biden is ruining all the things. He shut up about COVID

                How could I be wrong about anything when it’s never my fault? /s

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          Nah bro, you don’t come back from that. The only way to cope with that level of mental trauma is to convince yourself you’re even more right.

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        What’s the context?

        Edit: I didn’t know what any of this was in reference to. I wasn’t trying to ask for context in order to defend anyone. Apologies.

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          This guy posted all sorts of antivax crap, and also had made a post that he later took down saying that he’d disown his kids or divorce his wife if they got vaccinated against COVID-19, and then she got it and died.

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      That’s the only way to change their minds unfortunately

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            If my wife told me I killed her I’d take that to the grave. A very early alcohol induced grave.

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        It’s just too weird.

        One that he would bother to admit it.

        Two, even if he had the self awareness to reflect upon it, how “coy” he was being.

        • First a vague reference that no one could possibly react to except to ask for details if they had their interest piqued.
        • Then a follow-up to make it more pointed, but still conspicuously omitting the actual meat of the situation. Seemingly calibrated to try to elicit engagement after the first attempt failed
        • Finally sharing the meat of the situation only after a little engagement and direct question
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          He’s not admitting shit, he’s trying to gain sympathy and comfort from his friends, family, strangers, anyone! I wonder what his kids think of him after this?

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          Enter all of the people who have been shown they’ve been duped, and respond with “Why can’t you just let people enjoy things?”

          Oh, right. This isn’t reddit.

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      You’d be surprised how many abusers will tell on themselves thinking they are sharing a story about how something unfair was said to them. Then they give you the backstory as they relay it to a friend where they think it’s a safe space. A lot of assholes will still staunchly think they are in the right. Sadly a lot of their friends will join in on a toxic journey with them too. YouTube comments are pretty rife with these cliques.

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        Yup. I used to follow a YouTube channel run by a couple, then they had a harsh breakup and she left the channel. Some time later she comes forward with allegations of abuse against him, and I’m like “okay but this is just her side of the story, what if it’s all bullshit?”.

        Then he addressed the allegations. The way he addressed them, to me, was exposing himself FAR more than anything she said. It was like watching a movie villain monologue. Really scary how skewed those people’s perceptions are.

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        Absolutely correct this post comes off as “This is the bad thing my wife said to me before she died and I’m too oblivious to realize it was my fault”. I’ve seen the same shit with couples looking for validation after a nasty breakup.

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      I’m 90% sure I was able to find the correct person the post belongs to. They’re listed as widowed. They live in/are from areas that you would stereotypically expect a person to be taking horse dewormer instead of getting vaccinated. His public comments are full of typical boomer humor memes, misogynistic gems like (copied right from his page) “ Just heard an interesting fact….25% of women are being treated for mental illness….that means 75% are running around untreated 🤣🤣🤣”, guns, and more gems like this: E: image didn’t upload. It was a side-by-side image of a muzzled dog and a woman wearing a large covid mask titled “obedience training”.

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    The fact that freedom in the US is conflated with not getting the vaccine is incomprehensible. Something like vaccination should be mandatory with very limited exceptions for truly legitimate cases.

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      I’m old and I remember you just got your little shot card filled up before you went to school and that was that.

      I love vaccines. I get any one I can.

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      There’s a saying I want to make famous: “One man’s freedom ends where another’s begins.” Your freedom not to take a vaccine only lasts as long as it does not affect your neighbor’s rights to live and breathe.

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        As much as I like to make fun of the US, in this particular case I have to point out that a lot of other countries have antivaxxers.

        Here in France we have an epidemic of them, and the numbers shows they really made covid worse. My own dad is one of them, and he told me dead serious he’d rather get sick than get any vaccine and that’s his choice and nobody should force him. He, and I guess most other antivax too, either does not understand the concept of herd immmunity or doesn’t care about other people.

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          Also in France… I have new neighbours since 2022 because the old people next door refused to get vaxxed. They both died from covid.

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        As an American it is horrifying to not be able to argue with this directly, because for every outward appearance it might as well be true.

        But the argument I would make is that Americans are not the dumbest people in the world, Americans are simply allowed to survive and visibly prosper in spite of, and sometimes because of, their obvious stupidity. And combining this with the entitlement inherent in ‘just happening to be born here’ and the relative complete lack of suffering most of them experience, makes it easy for them to publicly hold opinions that people in most countries would either have to keep to themselves for their own personal safety, or just because few others are willing to join arms with them.

        Basically it’s a constantly building bubble that could happen anywhere, and to smaller degrees probably happens all over the world in small communities, but here it’s a bubble that for some reason has been resistant to popping, to the point where any attempts to pop it are easily avoided due to it’s mass and ridiculously protective userbase.

        Look at the UK and Brexit, or Russia and the mass of people outwardly supporting Putin, or the Middle East and apparent support of honor killings. Even if the majority of the people living in these areas don’t agree with this outward support, fear or resignation or something stops them from being the loud voice in the space. In the US it might be closer to resignation or hopelessness, but across the world we’re all really the same when you sit down and talk normally…there are stupid people everywhere you look, here we just don’t have a good way to embarrass them into shutting up.

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        To be fair, America has a health system that gains from keeping people ill and medicated, and after Tuskegee there is little trust in the government either.

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        Fuck off. You think tik tok and social media is reality? The reality is that there have always been willfully ignorant people and there always will be. In every population. Your generalizations really reflect yourself huh?

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        They’ve become very anti freedom in fact. Unless it has something to do with a major lobby like guns, or letting corporations pollute air and water, they pretty much are pro restrictions on most things.

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        “I wanna make a medical choice about my own body…”

        The Right: “Ummm…hold on now…”

        “And skip my vaccinations!”

        The Right: “Oh! You scared me for a second! Carry on then.”

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        You can’t get them in school liberties, they’re still available everywhere else

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          They also want to ban them from public libraries now. If successful, do you think they will stop there? I think it’s likely that they will keep pushing for more restrictions.

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      Heck, I had to fight to get the vaccine in my country.

      I was working at a food bank during covid. I was coming face to face with 200 different people every day. Many of whom were covid positive but because they were homeless they had no where else to go.

      I have a genetic condition that effects my sympathetic nervous system. I have sinus bradycardia, and chronic pulmonary congestion due to having over 10 bouts of aspiration pneumonia. On top of this I have an autoimmune condition. I was taking immunosuppression therapy in March 2020, I stopped taking because I couldn’t risk my immune system being suppressed in my line of work. I was so sick because of my untreated autoimmune condition, but I just had to deal with it.

      In October we started rolling out the vaccine to our most vulnerable populous. I was eligible because of my autoimmune condition and I was first in line at my local vaccination centre.

      But my genetic condition was on the list of contraindications. They were just going to send me away until I broke down crying explaining my job and my risk and my fear of catching covid. So I had to get two doctors to sign off on me getting the vaccine, and I had to make a special vaccine booking because they needed an NP to do a pre-screening and then I had to wait around for 3 hours afterwards and then get a post-vaccination check up and the NP had to sign off.

      My booster shots were easier, because I just took my proof of vaccination certificate to the pharmacy and I didn’t even mention my underlying conditions. (I didn’t have that luxury the first time. I had to hand over my medical records to prove I was eligible for the first round of vaccinations. But after my first jab, the fact I had gotten my first dose was proof enough that I was previously approved to be part of the first round, so I didn’t need to present my records to get my boosters)

      Trying to get an appointment with two separate doctors during a global pandemic for some red tape paperwork was like pulling teeth.

      It should not have been that hard for someone to get a vaccine when they want one. I understood the risks. I’d rather die of a vaccine interaction that helps provide information that makea the vaccine safer for others, than just be another statistic of covid 19.

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      I’m honestly surprised the US isn’t like this just given how powerful big pharma is there

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      Americans are generally not taught what freedom means… or the careful dance between “freedom to” and “freedom from”. The “golden rule of liberty” - that “your rights end where mine begin, and vice versa” - is utterly alien to most of us. Anything that could limit someone’s “freedom to” is demonized, even when that limit is because the “to” in question brazenly violates everyone else’s “from”.

      E.G.
      Rational Person: “I have a right to not be harmed by your actions.”
      Average Murican: “fAsCiSt!”

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        In this study, vaccinated Omicron index case-patients seemed to have the same transmission capacity as nonvaccinated persons. We did not find this increased transmission capacity for the Delta variant, where significant differences in SAR were observed in global, household, and occupational settings (Table 1) within groups.

        How one variant interacts with vaccination does not describe how every variant does; your own study is, at best, documenting an exeception to the rule that vaccines work.

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            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10505422/#ref19

            They have shown high efficacy against these endpoints in experimental and observational studies (1–13). Evidence suggests that these vaccines also prevent infection (5, 14–18) and potentially reduce transmission (19–23), albeit with smaller effects against the highly transmissible Omicron variant compared with wildtype severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and earlier variants (24–26).

            The exception is Omicron, and evidently isn’t a complete exception anyway.

            In addition, as this was a conversation originally about vaccine mandates, one of the first mandates in the US was put into effect ~2 months before Omicron was reported in Nov. 2021. So even if no vaccine or booster did anything to stop transmission of Omicron, the mandates were fully justified given the vaccines definitely did reduce transmission and severity of variants prior to that.

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        Yeah it makes more sense for vaccines that are, well, better at being vaccines. Something like MMR that actually is effective enough to create hurd immunity. Small pox vaccine was so good it eradicated the disease completely. Covid vaccines are more like flu vaccines - sometimes they work sometimes they don’t. It’s still better than nothing for >95% of people. There are those who respond badly to the covid vaccine too, so it’s technically a gamble either way. While the science says it’s better odds to have the vaccine than not, I can’t force people to take that risk with me.

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      I miss the old /r/hermancainaward before they started blocking out people’s faces. They all pretty much looked just like this dude, but it made all the posts much more real seeing the people that posted them.

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            Lol I think you mean Darwin Awards. Social Darwinism is a punk band from the west coast racist ideology from the 1800s

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              You shouldn’t confuse something racists (and fascists) latch on to with something being inherently racist.

              Social Darwinism is the idea that “survival of the fittest” applies to human behavior. Taken further it ultimately states that the “strong” deserve the resources they can take from “weak” by virtue of being able to take it, but on a casual usage level applied to, for example, anti-vaxers, it means they fell for the rhetoric and therefore deserved to die.

              They had a flaw, and nature removed them from the gene pool as a result. Or they had a strength, and were rewarded for it. That’s the core idea. Racists, fascists, and capitalists love the idea, of course, because it’s very easy to map their nonsense on to that core principle.

              Success becomes a virtue in and of itself, and the reality of simple luck, circumstance, social pressures or systemic injustice is ignored. There is only failure or success. It also implies that helping those in difficulty is a “sin,” that you are encouraging the “weak” to reproduce and thus weaken the human race.

              That would be where the Darwin and Herman Cain awards start mapping onto Social Darwinism. Ultimately, both are communities revelling in other humans removing themselves from the gene pool.

              They were weak, they were stupid, they had it coming, and therefore it is okay to mock their tragedies because they did it to themselves.

              It’s a pretty contemptible thought, once you spell it all out, isn’t it?

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          Nah, I feel like the moment has past

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      The face of a man who would spend 75% of his pension each month on insulin just to own the libs.

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    I really like how people try to censor names and fail to do so. If you really want something like that to be irreversible put a fucking black rectangle instead.

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      Ah but that’s hard to do on a phone and you know nobody uses computers anymore. Just scribble over it with your finger, like a toddler in Kindergarten. Good enough!

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        There’s literally apps for redacting screenshots.

        The best one I’ve seen is where people scribble over it but it’s in a slightly transparent color so you can still easily read the text underneath. I can only assume that they were in a very bright environment because otherwise it’s blindingly obvious.

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          You really expect people to download an entire app for a single image editing functionality, when the builtin gallery does “enough”?

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            I agree. Plus, we’re sharing public info here so covering the names is really just courtesy

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      If it was posted publicly, then you can just search for it. The globe icon tells you that the post is public.

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        Sure, but user can always remove their message and don’t want others to know they wrote that. And yes, I know that if you put something on the internet, you should be aware that it may never disappear, but publicly displaying regular people’s names on different website with context is a big no-no in my opinion. Also in EU there’s a right to be forgotten, and while I am not sure about exact details (I am not a lawyer), this might be illegal here as well.

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      I think they did a pretty decent job censoring those names? I can’t figure out any of them and I really tried, tbh.

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        Putting three instances of names as layers on top of each other with transparency effect already uncovers a large part of the most common name there, so I definitely disagree.

        If you know the exact typeface and font size used, you can just try to put letters top of the image to guess them as well (so you try to match parts of the letter with one exact character to be precise). And I am pretty sure there are some tools that make this even easier (or at least made internally by some U.S. security agencies :) ).

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          I mean… ain’t nobody got time for that? But I got your points.

          If it’s a classified documents, then it’s a horrible job. But for an internet shit post, it’s decent.

          You can even argue that with generative AI, it could figured the name in mere milliseconds. But then again, for a internet shit post, ain’t nobody got time for that?

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      There are enough rare phonemes that you can easily find this from any search engine even if the names are blacked out completely.

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    We made certain populations with many comorbidities very aware before they went for sedation on the vent that they would likely never wake up again. It was always a tough conversation and actually pulling the trigger on it while they were suffocating was hard. Most of my job at the time was doing everything I could to keep people who were maxed out in high flow oxygen off the vent.

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    If you find his page (it’s not hard) it’s full of stereotypically what you’d expect. Boomer humor memes, guns, mocking Taylor Swift, misogynistic comments, etc.

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          That makes them wimpier than our chad primitive sabertooth fighting ancestors who had endurance beyond any of those modern athletes. The enshittification of man has gone too far.

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              I had only heard of it once prior, in an piece which was discussing how the profit motive has lead companies to begin prioritizing offering cheaper, but lower-quality/less-reliable products or services.

              I cannot recall what example they gave, but I think it had to do with complaining about tech companies (like Apple or Google maybe) for the typical ‘creating the problem to sell you the solution’ type of release schedule (staggering) for the eventual implementation of new design improvements into their hardware/software. Presumably, the sales team thinks that method can help them sell more over time (or at the very least, have something to mention in the continuous marketing cycle without having to create a SALE in order to attract new customers)

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    Fuck man, I read the title but still, seeing it spelled out, fuck. That’s some heavy shit.

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      Deserved too. I blame the dipshit that was president for it though. All he had to do was say to wear a mask and get vaccinated and so many lives would have been saved. The whole fighting over it would never have happened. It’s really pathetic, and these mouthbreathers are trying to vote his dumbass back in.

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        If I recall correctly Trump did originally, but back-peddled the moment he faced the slightest push-back from his mouth-breathing constituency.

        The weak man’s idea of a strongman, indeed.

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          I’m probably wrong, but I thought it went the other way? That he started out calling it no big deal, then shifted to mask mandates and vaccines are communism, then the whole ivermectin and injecting bleach thing, and then when he got caught getting vaccinated, he tried to backpedal and tell people to get vaccinated, but he immediately went back to calling it a hoax and whatever else when he got even a tiny bit of outrage from his base.

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            He was always on board with the vaccines until he got booed at an event for promoting the vaccines. Then he became, outwardly, pro-vaccine (but more quietly), and anti-mandate.

            He was always anti-mask. And he tried to downplay Covid in general because he didn’t want the Dow Jones Industrial Average to drop.

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            It doesnt matter what the order was; he was a shitty leader doing shitty leadership to impress shitty people, and now a shitty resistance is allowing a shitty loser to do the same shitty job again

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        Survival of the fittest on display. If you’re dumb enough to believe what a Cheeto tells you, then you get what’s coming to you.

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        He could have sold red masks to match his hats, he would have made a killing, the Jan 6 insurrectionists would have covered their faces. turns out his stupid countered his evil.