The story sounds healthy enough. I’m mostly critical of the role of the actual parents. I may be over reaching here, but it sounds like the writer ended up taking up a responsibility that should have been taken by the parents in the first place. However, the situation sounds healthy enough and parentification has positive sides too!
A sibling is a lot easier to approach in a lot of subjects than a parent, I think. Sometimes this is what a person needs, and if their sibling is willing and able to meet them on that this is just a good personal family dynamic.
I have (too many) siblings both older and younger and, at least in my family’s experience, sometimes parents need to see this in action before realizing their behavior/parenting isn’t right.
Take my family as an example, I’ve been years when i was a teenager complaining about how they treated me and my nearest sisters, which failed miserably as they didn’t change and we ended up pretty fucked up mentally and one of them migrated and doesn’t want to come back even to the same country. Some years later, I tried basically parenting my 2 youngest brothers, but respecting certain topics where my (religious) parents are a bit too sensitive. The first one has been the most peaceful teenage man in our family by far, and my parents noticed how i was approaching him (something similar to OP, but pre-shut in? Basically tried giving him an ally when possible). They changed their ways only after seeing their previous failures and a more healthy result.
… Tho it’s worth nothing they have 1 child left to raise and most people doesn’t have enough kids to have a full damn hero’s journey about parenting lol
The big point of parentification is that it is forced on the child by their parents. The role of sub-parent to siblings is assigned via negative means. This is often in punishment for not performing that role. This can manifest as verbal and mental abuse, such as guilt tripping, neglect where the parent doesn’t do what is needed until the parentifide child does it out of necessity, and can go as far as full blown violence.
This reads more like the OP saw that their sister was in desperate need of help, and decided to take it upon themselves to do whatever they can to help her.
NEET is is an economic label that means Not in Employment Education or Training. Its the group often looked down on as leeches in society but the term doesn’t consider the reasons or health of the person.
The sister in the post appears much more like the Japanese shutins or hikikomori who isolate themselves from all social contact. Technically being a hikikomori is a choice but mental health and big pressure culture probably dont help.
Yea, here where I live there is a culture of most jobs being seasonal work, so a good amount of people end up being NEET’s for about half a yera or less because of the lack of regular jobs and surplus of seasonal work that’s most times only 3-6 month’s long.
You could say we are forced to be neet’s whenever tourist season isn’t ongoing.
Peasants sow and harvested the lands but most of the year didn’t have much to do.
They usually ploughed two times before harvest, and had to harrow at least once. After the harvest you had to process it, so cleaning threshing and winnowing grain or cleaning fruits. You’d need to weed it, maybe even plough it again after sowing to flatten out the ground and cover the seed and bury the weeds. If you’re lucky, you can add some manure and if you’re unlucky you might to plough agaaaain to retain more water on the field.
Of course those staple crops are in addition to the vegetable and herb garden, and any animals that need care every single day.
And all of this is ignoring the housework, gathering firewood, cooking for today and preserving for winter, cleaning and mending clothes, making yarn and weaving fabric, down to simply fetching water. Just housework is a fulltime job (not 40 hours, but literally all the time) in de middle ages.
And if you fall Ill, break a leg, have a fire or just have a shitty dry summer, the general solution to that is dying slowly and painfully.
Subsistence farming sucks so hard, people worldwide literally chose indentured servitude as a preferable alternative on many occasions.
TIL NEET means something else. For I thought it was only an enterance test in India to get into medical education. It is super competitive and toppers are usually shut-ins, studying for 14-16 hours a day.
The exams are held in may so for kids to go in hibernation since January is common place.
im still trying to figure out why people hate the fact that people leech off of shit.
Like unless we’re going turbo functionalist society where we define suicide as a normal aspect of everyday life, it seems rather. Dystopian to be claiming that everybody must be a part of society.
Yes. As for why, why not? If you can it’s probably the single best was to live life. Most jobs are entirely unfulfilling, unnecessary bullshit jobs that stack even more unfulfilling, unnecessary bullshit on top of it. the important work is, like, maybe a tenth of all actual work done and that’s still usually done by people who get treated like shit, sucking out whatever meaning they might be able to find.
Education is good, but left to their own devices most humans will educate themselves to some degree, so it’s not like NEET necessarily means a lack of self improvement either. Not that that’s the only measure of a good life.
And that’s before taking into account mental health issues that our society creates.
i think it’s more of a situational thing. I.E. used to shit on people who aren’t “part of the work force” although now it’s been codified into a bit of slang, since it’s technically an acronym now.
Normally it’s used to indicate a lifestyle which probably has an underlying mental health component. But the girl in this story is just really really autistic. IDK why the OP didn’t describe her as such once.
How do you know she’s autistic? Maybe she’s depressed, experiences severe social anxiety, or something else of that nature. I see no reason to jump to autism as the explanation, there just isn’t enough context.
I’d say the stuff about having meltdowns and the way it’s described points toward autism, particularly the Christmas incident, but it could be something else. I say this as someone on the spectrum myself, though far more able to function without support than the girl in the story.
It really is though! I stopped buying them after I realized that (never noticed it as a kid/teenager, not sure if my senses are more keen or if they fucked up the formula. Maybe a bit of both honestly)
I guess it’s expensive in the US ? I may have upper middle class brain rot because of my parents, but to me it’s basically the baseline for decent industrial chocolate.
It’s not expensive, but it’s way more expensive than a chocolate bar of similar size from any of the “candy companies” people see at the corner store like Hershey’s.
Can get a Hershey’s bar that’s ~2x the size of 1 Lindt ball for 1/4 the price at my corner store. Bulk discount scaling makes that even more wonky, I think 10 Hershey’s bars was like 8 bucks at Walmart while the smaller bag of kind milk chocolate balls was 12
Fair enough. But I’m mostly into dark chocolate bars. I’d rather satisfy my urges for milky, high-sugar chocolatey goodness with stuff like Kinder products.
To me, luxury chocolate is stuff like Bonnat “surfin” bars which cost, at their cheapest, more than 3 times the price per gram of Lindt’s bars (6€ for a 100g bar vs 1.70€ for a 100g Lindt bar). They taste amazing though, and their only ingredients are cocoa and sugar. But I’d probably go bankrupt if I bought them for regular consumption
Lemmy really is a bubble… Comments like this are really alienating me sometimes. Growing up not in abject poverty but also not financially secure does change my outlook on many things.
The multiple comments of beeing surprised that someone can find moderately expensive chocolate (which in itself is mostly a luxury good) luxurious really feels to me like people making fun of socioeconomically worse of others. It is probably not meant that way tho.
In my experience even really rich people don’t think of themselves as rich. There is always someone with more wealth in their circle. What really separates the haves from the have nots is the things they take for granted. This can create friction with the people that either can afford these things but don’t take them for granted or even worse the people that cannot afford it in the first place.
I do not have a solution for this but it affects almost everyone as there almost surely is someone less well of then them. Who’ll think of one as rich.
Lindt is pretty good as packaged chocolate goes. You can always find some fancy artisanal chocolatier if you can afford to spend a few bucks per chocolate but for a HS student Lindt is pretty high tier.
Premium, I definitely agree. But luxury is pushing it imo, given the prices and ingredients used. Imo luxury chocolate is either artisanal and/or has extremely high quality standards (e.g having as little stuff that is not pure cocoa and sugar as possible in its ingredients), and thus even more expensive than Lindt.
As I already said in another comment, this is a eurocentric point of view. When I lived in Canada I didn’t buy Lindt because they were almost twice as expensive as what I was used to.
Lindt is positioned as a premium supermarket brand in some places where it is usually a little better and more expensive than the default brand eg Cadbury. For many people it would be seen as a bit of a treat over their regular supermarket brand. Some markets have more appreciation and better access to good chocolate than others but it is a relative thing.
considering that coax and fiber optic are two different things, probably not, but judging by the fact that the fiber box is outside, it’s probably run inside using coax, and that is a rather astute observation.
I thought it was some weird sex thing at first but you never know what you get with greentexts.
I saw shower and started worrying but it’s OK.
The proliferation of anime and Internet porn has mortally wounded familial relationships.
The brother being a better parent than most actual parents.
It all seems to boil down to patience and Pavlov in the end.
Anon is a normal, decent human being and sibling.
I wouldn’t go that far. He’s being decent to his sister, but there could be ulterior motives here. I’ve learned to never trust a 4chan post.
https://youtu.be/XuZlidIF_A8
tldw
Expected a weird twist, got pleasantly surprised
Man, I hope this one is actually real.
I hope it’s not, what the hell kind of parents do these kids have??
Sometimes they’re working multiple jobs, sometimes they were mistreated themselves as kids. We shouldn’t be too quick to judge.
Not entirely uncommon, unfortunately
Even if it isn’t, you know something like that has actually happened somewhere.
Isn’t this just parentification?
If it’s healthy for you does it need a label?
The story sounds healthy enough. I’m mostly critical of the role of the actual parents. I may be over reaching here, but it sounds like the writer ended up taking up a responsibility that should have been taken by the parents in the first place. However, the situation sounds healthy enough and parentification has positive sides too!
A sibling is a lot easier to approach in a lot of subjects than a parent, I think. Sometimes this is what a person needs, and if their sibling is willing and able to meet them on that this is just a good personal family dynamic.
If OP was complaining I would be sympathetic.
As written, the story is just positive.
I have (too many) siblings both older and younger and, at least in my family’s experience, sometimes parents need to see this in action before realizing their behavior/parenting isn’t right.
Take my family as an example, I’ve been years when i was a teenager complaining about how they treated me and my nearest sisters, which failed miserably as they didn’t change and we ended up pretty fucked up mentally and one of them migrated and doesn’t want to come back even to the same country. Some years later, I tried basically parenting my 2 youngest brothers, but respecting certain topics where my (religious) parents are a bit too sensitive. The first one has been the most peaceful teenage man in our family by far, and my parents noticed how i was approaching him (something similar to OP, but pre-shut in? Basically tried giving him an ally when possible). They changed their ways only after seeing their previous failures and a more healthy result.
… Tho it’s worth nothing they have 1 child left to raise and most people doesn’t have enough kids to have a full damn hero’s journey about parenting lol
The big point of parentification is that it is forced on the child by their parents. The role of sub-parent to siblings is assigned via negative means. This is often in punishment for not performing that role. This can manifest as verbal and mental abuse, such as guilt tripping, neglect where the parent doesn’t do what is needed until the parentifide child does it out of necessity, and can go as far as full blown violence.
This reads more like the OP saw that their sister was in desperate need of help, and decided to take it upon themselves to do whatever they can to help her.
This is behavioral therapy, which you could say is a responsive mode of “parenting” that is highly effective.
I’d never really heard the term NEET before and had to do some research. I get what is, but not really why it is.
Is it a lifestyle thing or a mental health thing?
NEET is is an economic label that means Not in Employment Education or Training. Its the group often looked down on as leeches in society but the term doesn’t consider the reasons or health of the person.
The sister in the post appears much more like the Japanese shutins or hikikomori who isolate themselves from all social contact. Technically being a hikikomori is a choice but mental health and big pressure culture probably dont help.
In most cases the culture and mental health are the reason a lot of them will choose that lifestyle, still not 100% by their own free will.
Thats what i meant with “technically” a choice
The ironic part in this is that ecologically/footprint speaking the impact might be pretty positive compared to going out.
Yea, here where I live there is a culture of most jobs being seasonal work, so a good amount of people end up being NEET’s for about half a yera or less because of the lack of regular jobs and surplus of seasonal work that’s most times only 3-6 month’s long.
You could say we are forced to be neet’s whenever tourist season isn’t ongoing.
Thsts also what it was like it in medieval europe lord days. Peasants sow and harvested the lands but most of the year didn’t have much to do.
Sounds alot better then the cant skip a paycheck or miss rent hustle culture.
They usually ploughed two times before harvest, and had to harrow at least once. After the harvest you had to process it, so cleaning threshing and winnowing grain or cleaning fruits. You’d need to weed it, maybe even plough it again after sowing to flatten out the ground and cover the seed and bury the weeds. If you’re lucky, you can add some manure and if you’re unlucky you might to plough agaaaain to retain more water on the field.
Of course those staple crops are in addition to the vegetable and herb garden, and any animals that need care every single day.
And all of this is ignoring the housework, gathering firewood, cooking for today and preserving for winter, cleaning and mending clothes, making yarn and weaving fabric, down to simply fetching water. Just housework is a fulltime job (not 40 hours, but literally all the time) in de middle ages.
And if you fall Ill, break a leg, have a fire or just have a shitty dry summer, the general solution to that is dying slowly and painfully.
Subsistence farming sucks so hard, people worldwide literally chose indentured servitude as a preferable alternative on many occasions.
Both sides are true.
Work itself was much harder and life itself could be called a struggle compared to today’s standards.
But the attitude towards works was very different and much more broken up. Leisure in medieval times is well documented.
“During times of high wages and good harvests, peasants could expect to work no more than 150 days a year.”
https://www.thecollector.com/peasant-life-medieval-england/
I have no idea where this propaganda that is wasn’t so hard being a feudal peasant came from but it’s just laughable
I know it’s just a typo, but typing surplus like that makes me think of the type of Freudian slip a reptilian disguised as a human would have. 🤣
This kind of reaction’s are the main reason I will leave typos, or just to get a reaction out of typing police.
The picture also looks a lot like Futaba from Persona 5, who is a hikikomori.
TIL NEET means something else. For I thought it was only an enterance test in India to get into medical education. It is super competitive and toppers are usually shut-ins, studying for 14-16 hours a day.
The exams are held in may so for kids to go in hibernation since January is common place.
im still trying to figure out why people hate the fact that people leech off of shit.
Like unless we’re going turbo functionalist society where we define suicide as a normal aspect of everyday life, it seems rather. Dystopian to be claiming that everybody must be a part of society.
economists are fucking weird dude.
Just say loser lol
Bit of both, with a dash of enablers (usually parents).
Probably a bit more than a dash.
I heard it but I never had an idea what it meant, so I looked it up. NEET means they aren’t in education and don’t have a job employment.
Most times neet’s are people with mental health issues or depression also.
Yes. As for why, why not? If you can it’s probably the single best was to live life. Most jobs are entirely unfulfilling, unnecessary bullshit jobs that stack even more unfulfilling, unnecessary bullshit on top of it. the important work is, like, maybe a tenth of all actual work done and that’s still usually done by people who get treated like shit, sucking out whatever meaning they might be able to find.
Education is good, but left to their own devices most humans will educate themselves to some degree, so it’s not like NEET necessarily means a lack of self improvement either. Not that that’s the only measure of a good life.
And that’s before taking into account mental health issues that our society creates.
Its mental health, no one hides from the world if they don’t have a reason to hide.
i think it’s more of a situational thing. I.E. used to shit on people who aren’t “part of the work force” although now it’s been codified into a bit of slang, since it’s technically an acronym now.
Normally it’s used to indicate a lifestyle which probably has an underlying mental health component. But the girl in this story is just really really autistic. IDK why the OP didn’t describe her as such once.
How do you know she’s autistic? Maybe she’s depressed, experiences severe social anxiety, or something else of that nature. I see no reason to jump to autism as the explanation, there just isn’t enough context.
I’d say the stuff about having meltdowns and the way it’s described points toward autism, particularly the Christmas incident, but it could be something else. I say this as someone on the spectrum myself, though far more able to function without support than the girl in the story.
Yikes
The image attached makes this the fakest story I’ve ever seen on greentext
The image makes this seem like it’s going in a certain direction
It’s just the training data the AI got trained with
Well yeah the image is a drawing, it’s not actually the sister
If you can find her a real life boyfriend you deserve a degree in social work
Pretty sure it’s actually gonna happen
Most surprising thing in this greentext is seeing Freia mentioned as luxury chocolate! 🇳🇴
If you’ve ever tried US chocolate it’s straight up god tier by comparison. Also, kvikk lunsj and fruktnøtt FTW
Fair point. Like a lot of their foodstuff, it’s been fucked up into oblivion (and yes, I know you can find decent food, it’s just not the default).
As a kid i always wondered why the chocolate in the Christmas choco calendars tasted like vomit.
Then I grew up and learned of American dairy practices.
As an American, I agree. The aftertaste of Hershey chocolate is the same as vomit
It really is though! I stopped buying them after I realized that (never noticed it as a kid/teenager, not sure if my senses are more keen or if they fucked up the formula. Maybe a bit of both honestly)
To me it smells like someone took a nasty shit and wiped their ass with chocolate.
Or Lindt.
I guess it’s expensive in the US ? I may have upper middle class brain rot because of my parents, but to me it’s basically the baseline for decent industrial chocolate.
I’d call it “luxury”
It’s not expensive, but it’s way more expensive than a chocolate bar of similar size from any of the “candy companies” people see at the corner store like Hershey’s.
Can get a Hershey’s bar that’s ~2x the size of 1 Lindt ball for 1/4 the price at my corner store. Bulk discount scaling makes that even more wonky, I think 10 Hershey’s bars was like 8 bucks at Walmart while the smaller bag of kind milk chocolate balls was 12
Fair enough. But I’m mostly into dark chocolate bars. I’d rather satisfy my urges for milky, high-sugar chocolatey goodness with stuff like Kinder products.
To me, luxury chocolate is stuff like Bonnat “surfin” bars which cost, at their cheapest, more than 3 times the price per gram of Lindt’s bars (6€ for a 100g bar vs 1.70€ for a 100g Lindt bar). They taste amazing though, and their only ingredients are cocoa and sugar. But I’d probably go bankrupt if I bought them for regular consumption
In the US it’s more expensive and tastes better than the US brand (Hershey’s).
That’s pretty much how I’d qualify it as well. It’s a long shot from luxury, but it’s decent as industrial brands go.
Lemmy really is a bubble… Comments like this are really alienating me sometimes. Growing up not in abject poverty but also not financially secure does change my outlook on many things.
The multiple comments of beeing surprised that someone can find moderately expensive chocolate (which in itself is mostly a luxury good) luxurious really feels to me like people making fun of socioeconomically worse of others. It is probably not meant that way tho.
In my experience even really rich people don’t think of themselves as rich. There is always someone with more wealth in their circle. What really separates the haves from the have nots is the things they take for granted. This can create friction with the people that either can afford these things but don’t take them for granted or even worse the people that cannot afford it in the first place.
I do not have a solution for this but it affects almost everyone as there almost surely is someone less well of then them. Who’ll think of one as rich.
I am thinking the meant the Icelandic Freyja chocolate instead? Spelling in the greentext doesn’t match either though.
TIL Lindt is luxury chocolate
When it’s being compared to Hershey and Nestlé bars? Yeah.
Lindt is pretty good as packaged chocolate goes. You can always find some fancy artisanal chocolatier if you can afford to spend a few bucks per chocolate but for a HS student Lindt is pretty high tier.
Wut
That’s the sister. Anon sounds like he has limited means. No need to make fun of them for being poor.
Some of us had to do a senior victory lap.
It isn’t? Yes there is way more expensive chocolate but Lind isn’t cheap.
At least premium.
Premium, I definitely agree. But luxury is pushing it imo, given the prices and ingredients used. Imo luxury chocolate is either artisanal and/or has extremely high quality standards (e.g having as little stuff that is not pure cocoa and sugar as possible in its ingredients), and thus even more expensive than Lindt.
As I already said in another comment, this is a eurocentric point of view. When I lived in Canada I didn’t buy Lindt because they were almost twice as expensive as what I was used to.
Lindt is positioned as a premium supermarket brand in some places where it is usually a little better and more expensive than the default brand eg Cadbury. For many people it would be seen as a bit of a treat over their regular supermarket brand. Some markets have more appreciation and better access to good chocolate than others but it is a relative thing.
Laughs in Fazer
I was half expecting an eromanga sensei thing
How many times do we have to say it… Don’t fuck your sister.
BUT!
Butt?.
I can’t tell if the coaxing thing was an intended pun after the fiber optic thing before it
considering that coax and fiber optic are two different things, probably not, but judging by the fact that the fiber box is outside, it’s probably run inside using coax, and that is a rather astute observation.
> 4chan > greentext about sister > no incestAm disappoint.
On a more serious note, I hope that’s a true story. A healthy social circle, even if it’s only 1 person, does wonders to people.
these feel good greentexts always make me feel a certain type of way.
I’d like to think they’re almost certainly feel good posting, i.e. fake. But 4chan levels of fake.