• NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world
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    Well it had the most up votes! So clearly it was the most generally useful and true response in the whole thread!

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      Because on Reddit (and here on Lemmy) people use up and downvotes exclusively to rate the quality of a post, not as a tool to show disapproval without having to be able to actually articulate why. I like when social interactions go exactly as intended - like in this case - and don’t devolve into two people arguing with silent mobs behind them.

      /s for everyone who’s as blind to sarcasm as this shitty AI from Google.

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        Humor IS a quality though. Human voters are able, in aggregate, able to award certain types of humor. Which an LLM is not able to. Which gets recycled with no context, as fact.

        The internet would be a vastly different place if sarcasm and in jokes were not regarded as a type of “quality” content.

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          Well, there’s an oddly existential argument to be made that “funny” AI answers like this or adding a pot of Elmer’s Glue to pizza sauce to get the cheese to stick are valued. Simply because those are the posts I’ve seen from Google AI, and I’ve never touched the feature myself.

          By letting a language “speaker” learn from Reddit and forums, we created an approximation of “that guy who thinks he’s a comedian” because that guy is always there and always drowns in upvotes. Clearly, he’s a valuable part of the discourse!

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    If you look at the reddit post it’s citing, it’s from r/shittysuperpowers. A subreddit where you come up with fake shitty super powers is now getting cited as truth by google

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    And we thought boomers reading shit off Facebook was bad. Now they have AI feeding it to them.

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      Google: You know those LLMs?

      Engineer: Yes, what about it?

      G: So I took one of those and I vomited diarrhea into its mouth-

      E: Wait, what?

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      boomers reading shit off Facebook

      Says a generation that believes everything a YouTuber tells them lol

      Not a boomer btw

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        It seems so absurd to me this could happen. For the boomers I understand, they grew up in an offline world, but the youth? They are raised on the modern web and smartphones but are often clueless too.

        Was it the unsanitized, wild west internet era of the late 90s/early 2000s that hardened the millennials against online bullshitting?

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        What generation? I’m an elder millenial and I always thought Google Video/Vimeo/Youtube was/is shit for any kind of actual informential content. Music videos, meme videos - sure. Other than that, veeerrry great amount of suss on any info presented. Same goes for 90+% of people of my generation, who know what kind of a jokepool 90’s/early 2000’s internet was.

        So what gen are you referring to?

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          You have to learn how to filter out the rage bait and trash content, but you have to do that offline too.

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          YouTube is a decent source of info for some subjects, like vehicle maintenance and 3d printing. Of course it still depends on the channel/creator…

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      Reddit already has /r/greentext, so it’s only a matter of time before Google tells you that you’re fake and gay.

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          LoL, it’s literally:

          Google then: Stop, there’s always helps.

          Google now: go and jump off the golden gate bridge.

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        Too bad those posts are mostly screenshots. I think they only use text-based posts and comments to train the “AI”.

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          They probably also do some OCR on that and then let something other run over that to see if the text makes sense (basically letting another AI grade the output, commonly done to judge what’s a good dataset and what isn’t) and then just feed the ai again. Today you have a shortage of data since the internet is too small (yes I know it sounds crazy) so I wouldn’t wonder if they actually tried to use pictures and ocr to gather a bit more usable data

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    My new peak is the chance that I’ll see some comment I made on Reddit be famous in this way.

    As long as it doesn’t hurt anyone.

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      Do you think the noteriety would increase the value of the account if sold?

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        I wouldn’t sell it and give Reddit the pleasure of it ever logging in again. And it’s near OG age.

        Plus I probably doxxed myself to myself over the years.

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          Plus I probably doxxed myself to myself over the years.

          I liked to switch accounts periodically so depending on which one struck I may be fine

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      Idk this is probably about the most entertaining thing I’ve seen from this whole Reddit debacle and I’m kind of here for it.

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      Of course it’s possible to fix it, they’ll just have to change some parameters around and retrain the entire model (which takes a long time). Not an easy fix, that’s for sure, but if anyone has the resources to do this, it’s Google.

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      Here’s the thing. You said a “jackdaw is a crow.”

      Is it in the same family? Yes. No one’s arguing that.

      As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.

      If you’re saying “crow family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.

      So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people “call the black ones crows?” Let’s get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.

      Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that’s not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you’d call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don’t.

      It’s okay to just admit you’re wrong, you know?

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    From my understanding these aren’t because that is trained into the ai. I believe it is just looking at a few pages in the moment and summarizing from there, obviously doing a poor job at guessing the relevancy. Somewhat of a fix would be stop taking pages from reddit.