• eestileibEnglish
    60·
    2 days ago

    Nobody’s gonna mention that this is an F-16B cockpit and Ukraine got single-seater F-16MLUs?

    Can’t even enjoy this any more, I’m like sandpaper atm.

  • Tar_AlcaranEnglish
    38·
    2 days ago

    Those dates are a little unfair, the su34 is basically two decades older, but got put on Ice. And the newer models F16 are a huge leap up from the original 70s model.

      • Tar_AlcaranEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        True, but the MLU/block 50 version is also from the mid to late 90s.

    • Rednax@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      2 days ago

      Also very relevant is the missiles in use. Those certainly are not from the 70s.

      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialEnglish
        15·
        2 days ago

        I’m sure she’s flattered as a true patriot. I know she is. I’ve seen her in patriotic wear.

        Not, like, a LOT of patriotic wear by square inches. But enough.

  • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    251·
    2 days ago

    I dislike Russian aggression as much as the next non tankie but can we agree the Su34 looks fucking amazing?

    • nukeMEnglish
      7·
      1 day ago

      It’s only natural to be curious. We’re human after-all. Just remember you can look but don’t touch. I’ll never forgive you if you cheat on F35-chan and break her heart.

          • horse_battery_staple@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            Not if you include any kind of joint warfare roles or even information warfare. The airframe and powerplant are sufficient but the onboard computing, radios, jamming capabilities, lock detection and radar are all far behind western manufacturers.

    • mercEnglish
      18·
      2 days ago

      IMO basically every Soviet / Russian jet has looked better than American jets.

      I like the look of the MiG-15, the 21, etc. But, IMO the jets really got beautiful right as the Soviet Union was collapsing.

      The SU-27 is a beautiful plane, the MiG-29 too. It just seems like with some of these jets, the American equivalents were designed by computer and manufactured precisely to spec. While, it feels like some of the Soviet planes involved guys with hammers trying to make a beautiful curved surface.

      It also helps that the Russians often use colourful paint jobs, while the US uses flat boring grey that shows every flaw.

        • mercEnglish
          12·
          2 days ago

          Don’t get me wrong, nearly every fighter plane looks cool. But, it’s just different varieties of cool. Like, a lot of the US planes look Lamborghini-cool, with hard surfaces and so on. The Russian / Soviet planes just look more sculpted.

          And, if the rule of cool doesn’t apply, then why did P-40 fighter planes have shark’s mouths?

      • gravitas_deficiencyEnglish
        7·
        2 days ago

        The raptor definitely looks better than the felon imo, but for 4-4.5 gen, yeah, I’d agree in terms of looks for the most part. Though there are a couple exceptions - the F-104 looks cooler than the MiG-21, imo.

        Edit: surprised nobody called me out for citing 2nd gen jets lol

        • mercEnglish
          5·
          2 days ago

          I dunno. The nose of the MiG-21 looks weird, but I really like the look of the delta wings, the rudder and the ailerons. The F-104 with nothing mounted on the wingtips looks like a dart, which is cool I suppose. With the typical big fuel tanks on the wingtips it looks like some kind of catamaran.

  • slaacaa@lemmy.worldEnglish
    348·
    2 days ago

    By the way, does anybody have a credible take on the current status/outlook of the war?

    I hear nothing about the Kursk offense now, but mainstream news mention recent Russian successes in the East. I understand striking deep into Russia with US weapons would be critical, but I think that is unlikely to happen before the elections.

    I am (again) worried for Ukraine, and to our Western politicians f*cking this up.

    • nukeMEnglish
      60·
      2 days ago

      I love yall but yall gotta stop doing this in NCD. Is there a more credible community yall can have these discussions in? We’re here for jokes and shitposting. Real, honest, fact-based discussions (especially involving politics) really don’t belong here. [email protected] might be a better fit.

      • skulblakaEnglish
        31·
        2 days ago

        No answer received here should be trusted regardless how credible it sounds anyway, you may as well ask ChatGPT how the war is going, you’ll get a similar level of trustability

        • taladarEnglish
          4·
          1 day ago

          To be fair that is also true of the other online communities that take themselves more seriously.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
      182·
      2 days ago

      You can sign up for ISW’s newsletter, they do a good job of reporting what’s going on from a fairly dry, but western perspective. Last I saw they were reporting that Russia is aggressively counter attacking in Kursk to attempt to dislodge the Ukrainians before the fall mud sets in. It’s not looking great on the front but there are quite a few indications that the Russian attacks are not sustainable long-term. That said, I’ve seen reports saying that for a while now and the grinding attrition has continued.

    • InverseParallax@lemmy.worldEnglish
      162·
      2 days ago

      The Russians are throwing everything at the salient, it’s brutal and costly and the Ukrainians probably won’t be able to hold too long.

      But it also did it’s job: it was a target Russia HAD to take back, and it bought a few months for the American equipment to come online.

      What is really needed is Russian territory authorization, and the election to be over so there’s less doubt of continued supply, and new weapons packages can be drawn up.