• Clocks [They/Them]@lemmy.ml
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    This boat made me fixated on the idea of buying a boat and living in it.

    While the buying part is plausible.

    The living is a lot fucking harder.

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      You have to really like being on the water. It’s just as hard as living in an RV off grid.

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    Floating homes for alcoholics? Pretty much anyone who can sign a down payment contract.

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    My dad used to own a sailboat, which was a high point for someone squarely middle class. We’re talking a 44 ft sailboat.

    These things are holes in the water who the fuck wants a boat

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      At the height of being poor in like '83 or so (mortgage rates to 17%; just ponder that) we panick-moved to a smaller town with a union job but found a fixer house with an attached shop.

      Dad, ever the salesman and skilled labourer, would do work for people in exchange for wood-working tools: Old window Jenkins would part with Lester’s Table Saw if Dad re-tiled the shower.

      So we got tools. And he traded for plywood and plans. And suddenly we had a dory he could fit on top of this '75 econoline150 van. And fishing was great. But it was a lot of rowing this pig of a boat.

      So he modded it with a dagger-board and a mast port. Took him 5 min to rig it and he was set for fishing.

      Those summers camping because we couldn’t afford to do anything else but at least gas was cheap, they were awesome.

      I think these people just have shiny boats, which are too expensive. If you want to find them, they’re finishing the Penske file so they can still afford exorbitant Slip fees and dream of Taking the Boat Out with the estranged family members who will then love Dad again and make up for all this toil. Dude needs a cheap ugly van and a wallowing pig of a dory to ‘sail’ around a lake in the woods; aim smaller and actually go make memories.

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        I used to work at a fish market, and one of the fishermen we dealt with once won a large sum of money from a big fishing tournament. When they asked him what he was gonna do with the money, his response was, “Keep fishing until it’s all gone.”

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      As the saying goes:

      The two best days of a boat owner’s life are the day they buy the boat, and the day they sell the boat

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      Meh, a boat is a hole in the water to dump money into, a car is a hole in the road, and a house is a hole in the ground. At least the boat combines the advantages of the other two.

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    Sailboats aren’t prohibitively expensive for a normie, especially if you buy a used one. If you look at the large empty houses near every harbor though, you’ll see a better sign of the wealth disparity. The rich own multiple houses worth millions each and they seem to be rarely used while many people can’t afford a starter home now.

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      Buying a boat is cheap, owning one not so much. Between marina fees and maintenance it adds up really fast.

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        As my dad would say, “A boat is a hole in the water you throw money into.” Boats are cool and fun if you like to sail, but between maintenance costs, mooring fees, the cost to take it out of the water and store it at a boat yard once the season is over, scrape the barnacles off, repaint it, etc. it’s not a cheap endeavor.

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    I have a friend who grew up on the coast and her family always sailed for fun.

    When she got divorced she bought a sailboat and traveled for a bit in it. She then parked it at a marina and lived in it for so many years close to her kids and grandkids. She paid $100K for boat and her marina fees were $300/month. The boat was paid off with the divorce settlement.

    The cheapest 1 bedroom apartment to rent nearby was $3500/month for less square footage than her boat. The cheapest small house was around $1,000,000 or around $6000/ month at the time. The homes around the marina were all priced at several million dollars.

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      We met someone like that and they were considered homeless by the city, lol. I think they were annoyed at that.

      Seattle is full of people that live on boat as an affordable alternative. You can’t be squeamish about insects or get seasick easily because of the storms. I couldn’t do it myself, but I’ve known quite a few that have.

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      This is the right answer. It’s an RV on water but it doesn’t disintegrate (working as intended, that) like an RV or fifth wheel.

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    There are a lot of people in the world. Like a loooooot. Even if the % of non normies is only like 0.01% of the population that would easily explain those boats.

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      If there was a plague that had a 100% human infection rate and killed 87% of the people infected it would still only set back world populations to around the start of the 1900s

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        True. The start of the 1900s was no time for messin’ around and making babies. We had to go work in the mines

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      This is the real answer and the reason online bubbles are so sad.

      There’s so many different way to live your life and we are atrofied around a couple of equally bad options.

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    A friend of mine used to work in a yacht club, albeit a very small one on a river, not the sea. He was firmly convinced that at least half of the boats belonged to the owners of craft businesses. He was of the opinion that the boats were bought with black money, either to be able to do something with the money or to sell the boats again later and launder the money that way. I don’t know if that’s true.

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    The ideas that normies don’t sail isn’t true. I’m a normie and not rich and I started a sailing school because it’s fun as hell. You don’t need ^to ^own a boat to go sailing, you only need to know how.

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    Have a friend who would go north in the summer to work on forest fires and would come back to his sailboat at the end of the season to spend winter at the marina, he doesn’t even know how to sail…

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      Charter yachts can be spotted relatively easily. They have standard small name design, sail small flags and are mostly pretty standard yachts. No expensive extras, mostly basic and relatively well maintained if boring

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    The two best days in a boaters life:

    The day they buy their boat; and the day they sell their boat.

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      My uncle used to own a fairly large shrimp/crabbing boat, and he ran a fishing crew for nearly 20 years. He said “They say the best days in a boat owners life are the day you buy, and the day you sell. There is a Third option, the day you realize you can rent you boat to a crew, and not have to deal with most of the issues, and still make money.” Yeah, he eventually was in too bad of shape to continue, so he started renting his boat out to crews, they covered fuel, and short term maintenance, while he was responsible for the big stuff. Made a nice side income from it, and started a plumbing business.

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    This is a different kind of boat, but I met someone recently who lives in a houseboat like this and apparently it works out cheaper than buying a house near where they work. It’s moored on the Thames, some way upriver from London.

    The funniest part was how relatively normal this person was. They work as a lawyer.

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      These are crazy popular in and around London, even among fairly ‘normal’ people.

      The housing crisis is just so bad that they are comparatively quite affordable (even once you include the long-term/ongoing costs).

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      Narrowboats are expensive tho.

      They’re the vw campers of the waterway.

      Expensive and usually very old and very rotten.

      plus you can only really do inland waterways with them. i much prefer sailboats

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    I suspect technically insurance companies own most of the boats, they just don’t know it yet