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      It certainly fuels the flames.

      Once you start asking why the hell the french have to gender everything, you start asking why we have to gender anything.

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    French is wild, but it’s actually pretty easy to remember genders for appliances in particular. Generally, the more attractive the appliance, the less questionable its gender. Who could misgender a swamp cooler or a blender?

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      Generally, the more attractive the appliance, the less questionable its gender.

      Lol what

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          Oh is that what that Cancel button is for?

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              Well that certainly doesn’t sound consensual.

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                You’re jamming oiled-up bread into a device that has no means to expel unwanted fluids, and its only form of protest being to overcook your buns. What do you think?

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        There is a say in france along the lines that the more bad something is the higher the probability it’s feminin.

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    What do you thin? It’s conceptually a hole that gets wet!

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      SEND THAT CUNT BACK TO HELL FROM WHENCE IT CAME

      Telefrancais haunted my nightmares so badly as a child

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    C’mon, une machine a laver is obviously a girl! Unless you call it a lave-linge instead, in which case it’s a boy.

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    Un baguette, une baguette, le la.

    Il y a un truc qui peut vous servir dans cette situation là.

    Dites juste deux baguettes.

    C’est un peu plus cher mais en tout cas, il vaut la peine et vous aurez deux baguettes à la fin.

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      A baguette, a baguette, the a.

      There is a trick that can help you in this situation.

      Just say two baguettes.

      It is a little more expensive but in any case, it is worth it and you will have two baguettes at the end.

      I don’t think the translator worked that well here, but I think it makes it funner lmao

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    It can be both ! You can either call it “un lave-linge” or “une machine à laver”.

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      Yeah, it would be nice if people stopped assuming it gender.

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    My native language is gendered but I still don’t always know how I’m supposed to talk about male members of a species with a feminine name or vice versa.

    “A person by the name of Mary was…” “Person” is masculine. Mary can hear me and I don’t want to offend her. “Was” has a masculine and a feminine form.

    I think the masculine form of “was” would be technically correct, but then do I have to use masculine pronouns? “A person by the name of Mary was there and he…” The real answer is to rephrase what I said to avoid awkward grammar.

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      i thought gendered languages had two genders for words like “person” so you could make the swap when the gender is known

      e.g. un person / une personne

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        I deliberately picked an example where there isn’t (or I don’t know) a feminine version. Most words that I can think of for various categories of people do have two genders, although in many cases the feminine version sounds awkward to me, a little like the “trix” suffix does to English speakers.

        (Also, the male default sometimes makes using the feminine version of a word sound like you’re deliberately emphasizing that you’re referring specifically to women as opposed to simply talking about someone who happens to be a woman.)

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    in my Spanish (HS) class if I don’t know I just guess based off of the vibes

    I’ve guessed correctly more often than not

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      I don’t know how German compares to French or Spanish, but in German things can be masculine, feminine, or neutral. What I do—which is partially as a protest, and partially out of laziness—is to assume every non-person noun is neutral.

      It works surprisingly well in IT where basically all nouns are neutral, but I probably sound like Kevin from The Office in every other context.

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          This is arguably subjective, but I think making masculine and feminine words neuter is the only way to counteract the inherent sexism of gendered nouns. If you make everything masculine, you’re still tacitly supporting the previous categorization of masculine nouns as correct, and vice versa for making every noun feminine.

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              I don’t remember most of the grammatically correct genders, but when I was trying to learn them I had the distinct impression that stereo-typically manly nouns were masculine and stereo-typically womanly things were feminine.

              I have heard nonbinary people find neuter as being offensive because it’s infantilizing them. At least that’s how it was explained to me.

              I haven’t heard anything about that but that’s really interesting. Do you know how they prefer to be addressed?

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                  Interesting, thanks!

                  Do you know what level German you are at?

                  I took a full-year German course in university a few years ago, and by the end of that I was probably A1. I’ve forgotten most of it since then, but I could probably relearn it within a few weeks. Every time I visit my German side of the family I try to brush up on it, but that isn’t very often.

                  Now it’s been 15 months learning daily and am at the B1 level. So not an expert just intermediate with more to learn.

                  Good for you. I feel like the hardest part of German (as a non-native speaker) is regularly practicing.

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    The word for potato is my favorite. It’s so fancy and English just calls it a potato.

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      My highschool french class always loved the word for “squirrel”, “pomegranate”, and of course the ever popular “seal in the shower” combo for extra fun.

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      to be fair, that’s a modern take. in antiquity it was so ignoble it was given the generic name for a fruit/vegetable.

      a modern version might be more akin to “dirt thing”

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          I meant it colloquially - like a long time ago - but fair point. More accurately, it was introduced about 100-150 years before there was a linguistic trend for fruit to be called fruit and not apples.