“Drill baby drill, frack baby frack”.

Trumps literal words at a rally leading up to the election. And people cheered.

This should tell you all you need to know. If you recycle, if you carpool, if you use public transportation. If you have a compost pile. If you refuse to buy plastic water bottles, and styrofoam plates. If you do everything you can to reduse, reuse, and recycle, fuck you. Your efforts are in vein. All of it is being undone on a global industrial scale. Purposefully. With tax breaks for the oil tycoons who pollute the most.

This is what we’re in for.

The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species.

You actually missed the biggest thing of all. Trump’s new world disorder is going to create an explosion of nuclear proliferation. In the new environment, countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear umbrella as they have for the past 70 years. Every country will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. And the shear amount of new countries that are going to have their own nuclear weapons is going to guarantee a disaster sooner or later.

As the POTUS, Trump gets to set the bar on the world stage for international cooperation in many parts of life.

Other leaders, world-wide, will follow his lead, either because they can finally get away with it, or in reaction to how he treats their nation.

We saw this to a small degree with Trump 1.0 when nobody expected him to win. Now the entire world has had 8 years to figure out what they are going to do.

Don’t worry, nothing will be done to stop him (till he’s in a bunker if you catch my drift.)

Probably best to stick to coordinating movements to isolate and neutralize paid provocateurs and provide secure wellness stations, while maintaining a recording of EVERYTHING done by officials. Remember to broadcast everything, not just record. That way recordings can’t be seized.

At some point they’ll start shutting down internet access to prevent recording of their actions. But that will probably coincide to when protest isn’t the most efficient of methods any more.

You mean a rifle?

If making protesting illegal is enough to get you to stop protesting: You’re not really upset enough to have protested in the first place for anything but taking pictures of it for social media points.

And it’s not like protesters haven’t been getting shot or beaten up by police even while it’s legal.

That’s why I would advise against directly confrontation means of protest. Instead look at things like malicious compliance, boycotts, 4B / birthstrike, anticonsumption, and other acts of non-participation. Labor strikes will probably be common, but those can be rather risky.

Governments know how to deal in violence. Don’t give them a target to aim at.

The sad part is that everything bad he says is apparently “him joking”. Like the Mafia, he knows exactly what he’s doing as well when it comes to coercion. He doesn’t threaten people, he just says it would be a pity if it happened

Take a stroll through hexbear and .Ml

People who say protests are useless should be cursed with diarrhea farts every time they sneeze

Maybe the point of the protest is to bring awareness to the public?

I don’t know man, I’m still an amateur on this whole scene, admittedly. I do know that when my loved ones are put at risk I’m not just going to shrug and say, “guess this is just how it’s gonna be, voters voted for it.” It’s unsurprisingly feeling just like the last time Trump was in power. I happen to be of a demographic that is at minimal risk personally, but my neighbors are being threatened and their property has been vandalized with hate speech. They’re scared to leave the house. I’ve got family and friends being told they don’t deserve to have the same rights as everyone else and targeted by open acts of hatred. A lot of Americans may have voted in support of this kind of thing, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to just shut up, roll over, and accept it. If that’s considered throwing a tantrum, then okay. I would expect anyone to throw such a tantrum in the same kind of circumstances, including my political opposites.

They get to go to reeducation camp first!

I mean as an American it’s still technology my right.

It would have been worse. Fox News would paint them as anarchists and encourage violence. Nothing would change on the right

If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters.

The exact same thing happened in 2016. Huge rallies a few days after Clinton lost. If those same street rallies had come a few days BEFORE the election, she probably would have won.

both times dem consultants took the bait and courted republicans. Though this is the first time right wing immigration policies were pushed by the democrat.

That’s how it was for me except I did vote. But I was so confident we had it in the bag.

Well, at a certain point, “just don’t be that big a dumbass” has to happen because things really can’t stay together otherwise. Assuming he couldn’t win is a perfectly sensible assumption. You can lead 73 million horses to water but you can’t make them drink.

A mandate of hate.

It worked all right. Now we have to deal with it

It’s about anonymity. You can be tracked through your phone, and of course, by your face.

Because they are protesting someone who wants to make protesting illegal. Better to protest now without a phone and a mask, so you don’t get shot in the legg when he gets in power in January

I think it’s more to avoid facial recognition

And he’ll probably put into effect the insurrection act.

Hey Bud. You okay?

This reads like you’re feeling defeated. It’s okay to have hope that the world can get better, even if it feels like the dark days.

You anthropomorphizing complex socio-polotical effects of a rotting economic system. Just thought you ought to know.

If it’s any consolation, at least Trump can only ever become a short term dictator, because he’s old.

I doubt even the MAGAs would support Vance or any other republican trying to maintain a dictatorship. The entire GOP will crumble in infighting when Trump is gone and probably even beforehand.

And before anyone says “America joined WWII late,” I want to say that’s a lie by omission most of the time. It’s true that America put troops on the ground only after Pearl Harbor…but the US government was already sending supplies to the allies before that; for the entire duration of the war, the US had an anti-Nazi government. Hypocritically so due to the US policies against black people, but some people phrase it in a way that makes it sound like they want us to believe the US was close to joining the Axis before Pearl Harbor (also bringing up the MSG rally, which…you could find a comparable amount of Nazis in any Western country at the time.) Anti-interventionism was the absolute norm in the US at the time.

Now, it is incorrect that US History class casts Americans as the primary heroes of WWII.

As an Italian who lived through three different Berlusconi’s governments… there is no way back. Identity politics is too yummy for lobbies and the other people who fund politicians.

I mean, some support of reform in your congress and senate would be a good answer. Allowance from people outside the two anointed parties to come forward and propose good ideas even if they don’t affiliate themselves with the oligarchs running things in the republican and democratic parties - fix that First Past The Post bullshit, you all know it’s bad for you. Reform of how you count votes, gerrymandering is literally destroying your elections. Reform of how many representatives there are for each state - you’re telling me even though California has 17 million more people than Florida, they have the same number of senators? Or maybe it’d be nice if your cops wouldn’t be above the law and always getting away with murdering minorities, that would help. Or maybe reform of your education and healthcare systems, which feed all your money in the pockets of the same fucks who then force you into labor for the “luxury” of taking an ambulance to the hospital when you’re sick, or earning a higher education. Reform of your for-profit prison system that jails minorities to further increase your class divide. Or reform of your diplomatic relations with countries known for genocide. Reform of so many different things… But I think most of all, it would really have sent a message if instead of making him president, you’d have just jailed the convicted felon that has ties to one of your biggest enemies. Cause otherwise you’re just painting the picture that corruption has overtaken you.

And hey, it’s not you as a person that is responsible for any of this. But this is how it looks like from the outside. Your majority has decided you’re gonna be corrupt fucks for the next few years and that you as a nation are gonna exchange the lives of women for a red hat and a fake tan. If that’s what the majority decides, that’s the impression your country will leave. I’m truly sorry about it for the many actually reasonable people that are left. Perhaps now is a good time to consider emigration.