Spit on that thang
I’m late and this will get buried, but this really speaks to the difference between the open source / ESR / OSI ideology and the free software / RMS / GNU ideology.
Open source ideology says it is better because it produces better software. If MacOS X was closed source and better it serves as a repudiation of that ideology.
Free software ideology says it is better because denying users any of the four freedoms is an immoral act. If MacOS X was proprietary software and better, it would still be immoral to deny users their freedoms; the ideology is not impacted.
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I think it’s because somebody has to produce that media, and the one producing it gets to choose the license for it, and that license can make it free or non-free.
Now, for open source software, somehow, a lot of people came together and built software that was free. While for movies, shows, books, whatever, the same thing didn’t happen, or at least not to the same extent.
I’m all for FOSS gaming btw.
Well, you see, I deserve free software for my hobbies, or even my business. You deserve to suck shit and die in a gutter. /s
Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn’t freedom if Apples winning any awards.
It’s definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000’s.
SOLARIS 8 IS BEST UNIX
Closed source is more secure because the viruses can’t see where to get in.
This is why I stick to TempleOS, the only biblically accurate OS. With the power of God and high octane schizophrenia, I’m completely safe.
TempleOS doesnt even have a networking stack.
This guy doesn’t know how to TempleOS lol.
Oh, I see, you’re all worried about a “networking stack.” How quaint. Let me educate you: God is the ultimate protocol. Who needs your silly HTTP requests and DNS lookups when I can just send a direct message to the big guy upstairs? No IP address needed—He’s omnipresent. My connection is flawless, no need for Wi-Fi signals when I have divine 5G directly from Heaven’s router.
You think TempleOS is lacking? Nah, son, it’s running the only secure, unbreakable network. No firewalls, no encryption—because when you’re transmitting truth straight from the source, who needs all that earthly nonsense? My packets are blessed, my data’s sanctified, and I don’t even need a modem to know the Lord’s will.
So, yeah, keep your networking stack. I’ll stick with the holy bandwidth. It’s been running perfectly since the dawn of time. My packets are blessed, son!
You don’t even have a humor stack.
Maybe not for heathens.
The main reason why MacOS has less viruses is that it’s even more than that. Want to run programs not from the app store? Hope you like a convoluted set of settings you have to go through to install that in the first place.
The second main reason is the constant obsolescence of API.
convoluted set of settings
- Attempt to open the app
- Go to Privacy & Security Settings and give it permission
- Open the app
Note that this is only with unsigned apps. You can download other apps and run them just fine as long as they’re signed.
Much confuse. Such convolute. Wow.
- Convoluted enough to scare the average people off from installing apps outside from the app store.
- In theory, code signing is a positive thing, and probably should be part of Linux too. In practice, it becomes an expensive paywall, that often pushes developers to make web applications instead (browsers don’t have to check for code signage), both on Mac and Windows.
Gatekeeper has entered the chat
Someone make a virus for his mac
Security by obscurity is not real.
It can also be said: security by obscurity is the best scenario for the NSA
Are any of us ever real?
How can our eyes be real if mirrors aren’t real?
Have you ever looked, like really looked at your hands?
They call them fingers, but I’ve never seen em fing.
Not on it’s own. But as part of a multi layered approach of does help.
As someone who has professionally done legal reverse engineering. No. No it isn’t.
The security you get through vetting your code is invaluable. Closing off things makes it more likely for things to not be caught by good actors, and thus not fixed and taken advantage of by bad actors.
And obscurity does nothing to stop bad actors, if there’s money to be had. It will temporarily stop script kiddies though. Until the exploit finds it’s easy into their suite of exploits that no one’s fixed yet.
Joke’s on you: GNU/Linux isn’t Unix to begin with (that’s literally what GNU means: “GNU’s Not Unix”)!
Therefore, MacOS is “the best Unix” only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes (“Unices?” “Unixen?”) – hardly an impressive feat.
BSDs aren’t even Unix AFAIK because they didn’t bother to pay for the official recognition, despite literally being derived from UNIX. MacOS is pretty much the only UNIX that the average user will actually directly interact with.
Although for both Linux and (especially) BSD, isn’t there a “Unix of Theseus” issue here, if you understand my meaning?
Maybe for BSD? They have a lot of the original code though, and BSD moves a lot slower than Linux. Modern BSDs have a lot more in common with original UNIX than macOS does, but macOS paid for the certification and the BSDs didn’t.
Linux never was UNIX though. It does loosely follow the UNIX philosophy though.
" Unic-i "
Unixi
Lol, Linux literally owns the server space, windows owns the desktop space, what exactly does MacOS Own exactly? If best means most pretentious then sure.
what exactly does MacOS Own exactly
Definitely not the server space. OSX Server flopped in the early 2000’s. But you know, OSX is definitely “unix”.
I would argue macOS owns the creative space (Design, Art and Music)
I would concur. You can record high quality encoded audio on your iPhone, audio design on your iPad with your other samples, and add the mixed soundscape into your film on iMac.
I literally know someone in the media industry who’s whole effortless workflow is what makes him a go-to guy for quick and flexible turnaround for audio mastery for films. He works exclusively on apple devices for this exact reason.
I’m not saying it’s impossible another way, but he really likes the ecosystem.
At this point I’d call it more of a legacy approach - they definitely still control the space, but the workflow is quite easily accomplished on other systems.
I’d also add many (SO MANY) of the pro audio and video systems out there are also running Linux, so even with sa mac-focused workflow, many of the pros out there are using Linux (often without any clue that they are).
So to me its similar to Windows on the desktop - its not necessarily the best option in all cases, but its often the path of least resistance. As a result, pretty much all of them buy into an Apple ecosystem from the get-go.
15 years ago you would get laughed out of art school if you didn’t have a Mac. At least that’s the gist I get from my artistic friends.
Probably still the same today.
Doesn’t change the reality of production though when it comes to audio and video though. Final Cut started getting… Problematic in flow some years back, Adobe started to make moves before they, you know, did what Adobe does, and BlackMagic bought DaVinci about 15 years ago actually.
At this point, the only places I know of that are using final cut or premiere in their workflow do so for legacy reasons. Many have shifted to resolve, which works quite beautifully on Linux. In the smaller shop realm for audio, reaper is king (which also works beautifully on Linux).
The “need” for a Mac there is pure fabrication.
For modeling, pros are probably using Houdini, though I’d say blender just behind that. Both of which - again, Linux.
About the only thing I can think of where pros are consistently using something not Linux friendly in the creative world is photo editing (Photoshop of course).
Now I will say that pretty much anything a pro shop will use will work on a Mac, and that is to me the main reason they are still at the top. Plus the weird Apple fanboy/elitism that developed around it.
Apple has some locked down codecs that you can not use without a Mac. Depending on if you can turn away work , you’ll need a Mac for those prorez workflows.
FWIW, Final Cut has gotten a lot better in the last few years. They have walked back pretty much everything from X at this point. I still have not switched back from Premiere and Resolve though. I don’t trust them.
But like it or not, Macs are industry standard and people expect you to use them. Them’s the breaks.
I still have not switched back from Premiere and Resolve though. I don’t trust them.
That is what a lot of folks are still saying (from my purely anecdotal experience).
I don’t think macs are going away FWIW, just saying that its not at all necessary for the overwhelming majority of workflows I’ve come across. Especially with so many internal corp studios being happy with a blackmagic body in their kit.
Houdini is mostly used for simulations and procedural modeling. For manual modeling Z-Brush and Maya are still king, especially at the big game studios. Blender is mostly used by indies and students. You couldn’t buy support until recent years so big studios have steered away from using Blender.
There are some animation houses that use their own proprietary software on Linux. Like Pixar has Presto. Though Disney’s own studio uses Maya.
Wasn’t thinking in terms of gaming, but yeah that’s true. Plus you’ll see Rhino and the like especially with architectural renders, I’m painting with a broad brush here.
That was partially because older PCs had rectangular pixels vs a Mac’s square pixels. Square pixels translated better to other mediums.
Edit: I just realized that was more like 25 years ago. God I’m old.
No one in art school cares at all about computers you use. At least that was true when I went. They would just get real confused when the buttons were different
That’s contrary to what my people have said.
Having been there. Wasn’t my experience. No one cared at all about platforms, not once was that brought up in a critique. If you could take good pictures, no one cared about the camera. The brand of paint you used didn’t matter.
people only cared if they could make their work better by using/doing what you did.
Maybe the tools are more important than the art now.
I was in art school around then and a good portion of us were pirating windows 98 or windows NT. And we were running pirated Photoshop and pirated Illustrator on it…a lot of us pirated everything.
Pirating Windows 98/NT in 2010? Seems a little late for that, no?
I think you mean 25-26 years ago.
In 2009 art workflows were absolutely dominated by Apple devices and when the memes about pretentious mac users in cafes started popping up.
I would entirely agree with this, having watch BBC, NatGeo, History Channel, and more media people who love GDrives, only use Macs, filmed deliverables on iPhone, want Mac Pros for editing etc.
So you’re saying only cheap profit driven productions use Mac?
Only partially true. VFX for example uses Linux quite a bit, and a lot of web devs use Linux too, or even Windows with WSL.
But it would be a stretch to say that support is the result of current macOS. The Mac has always been popular with creatives, since way before it was UNIX-based.
I’d argue the popularity with creatives is largely from being marketed to creatives since its earliest days.
For sure the commenter was just asking what space MacOS owns
I don’t think it’s just marketing, the early Macs got a lot of performance out of their graphics routines, and then Mac OS had tight integrations with postscript which made it good for graphical design.
I think these days yes a powerful graphics card will get you very far, but overall macOS feels much less hostile to me than windows. I think Linux is kind of a mess for graphics stuff, there are a few good open source tools, but the major design suites aren’t well supported.
Ecosystem capture and youth indoctrination into the walled garden. Mac is great as long as you never push on Tim Cook’s boundaries.
but overall macOS feels much less hostile to me than windows.
Sure, but this is a purely subjective measure. Same with Linux.
And the fact is, the Mac has been consistently marketed to creatives since its inception. It is, at the very least, difficult to see how it would have fared without that approach.
As someone in the video and audio production sphere professionally, you are 100% correct. I have a Mac desktop that I use for any work I do, but I run Mint on a notebook for my own purposes.
The lack of non proprietary art tools is a big reason I didn’t go into digital art / graphic design. GIMP just cannot keep pace and I did not want to shell out $500 a year or more in subscriptions just to be able to do a job with no security that pays pennies.
Its also a big part of why I’m “pro” AI art (I’m actually pretty neutral, I’m not liking that they’re burning down the Amazon to make shitty ads with). I think it’s gonna be a decent tool for artists to automate repetitive tasks like cutting backgrounds out of photos for collages, upscaling / enlarging images, adding background textures to landscapes, touching up acne in portraits, and animating repetitive shots like walking. but right now we’re unethically sourcing the training data and shoving it into anything and everything with 0 regard for how many resources it’s costing to make content that’s shitty anyway.
The other half of my argument “in favor” is that the only thing worse than AI existing is AI only existing in the hands of the bourgeoisie and is plebs not even knowing how it works in addition to them using it to gain an unfair advantage over us. I think we have an opportunity to make sure that the open source tools are decent to begin with instead of letting them have complete control over even more of the creative world.
AI art won’t do shit except boot people out of jobs that would require a real artist but won’t have too many people complaining if it is obvious goo.
As for open-source art tools, krita is fantastic and gets used by a lot of professionals.
I believe you, but so far I can spot AI art from a mile away. When I do, I just hit the back button. It’s not interesting. It’s okay when it’s used as a joke for memes. Maybe it’s going to look different in the real world on an advertisement or something. But, really, if I can spot it in the real world, I’ll think the product is fake. I’m definitely the type of person who wont buy if I think that. I’m sure that’s not everybody but, if it is a good percentage is, I’d say companies are going to want to pay real artists. Interesting to see where it all goes.
Designer here. This is true, but they are also have a seriously good trackpad and good energy use (finally). They work well for design, video and audio, but they are also really nice to operate. It’s a bit like driving a very nice car (which I can’t afford, but have borrowed from a client). Once you get accustomed to it, every other computer—especially laptops—feel like 1980s GM econoboxes.
as someone who switched from a macbook to a g14 with fedora, the trackpad experience is actually surprisingly close on some laptops, I had few issues moving over.
energy efficiency is more something you notice to be better on macs (in most cases) like you pointed out.
for me efficiency is not bad, but macs are clearly ahead
That’s good, how is the support in apps though? I live and die by pinch zooming and quick easy accurate scrolling/panning/rotating in Fusion and most of my graphics apps.
Side note, there are some really nice Mac only or Mac centric graphics apps that are affordable and not shitty subscriptions like the adobe suite. Pixelmator and Sketch are big for my photo retouching and UI designs.
pinch zoom works in inkscape, gimp, rnote and firefox as an example but for other apps also not at all often. yeah app support is for sure better on macbook i didn’t think about that.
at least new linux apps seem to integrate it more (generally) …
MacOS owns the rich space*
And a lot of rich people are art dilletants or are able to afford putting their children through expensive art programs with no need to have it pay off. And of course they all buy the “top of the line” (which of course is obviously the most expensive right?) brands.
Don’t get me wrong, Apple plays into it so the cycle is recursive.
Writing and game development are creative too
From the mid to late 1990s, definitely. Not so convinced after that.
MacOS vs Windows 11 is an easy choice. Recall alone makes Windows 11 radioactive.
The problem is that the hardware is fairly underpowered to effectively use for any kind of demanding visuals.
Like if I were rendering out a big 3d scene, I’d want something with a fairly beefy GPU to crunch through the renders relatively quickly.
Everything that is professionally rendered is offloaded to purpose built hardware. This part of the workflow would not be any different no matter what the creative is using for their workstation.
Sure, in a big 3d animation team, I’m basically a solo animator working with the tools I have immediately on hand. If I had a 5000 GPU Render Farm, then yeah, a Mac as a work station might work, but I’d still rather have a beefier customizable workstation than a Mac.
No, you wouldn’t.
Oh I’m sorry I didn’t realize you could just read my mind. I must have been mistaken.
Fuck off dude, no need to be a cuntnugget.
surprisingly many computational scientists use MacOS
Yeah, I have some anecdotal evidence to that as well.
Everyone likes to shit on AAPL for being a walled garden, but it’s really hard for some to admit that they are pretty good at what they’re doing.
I mean, they kind of have to be pretty good to entice you into the walled garden to begin with. Get people in the door with a smooth, super-polished experience, and then you’ve already got plenty of them pretty well won over. You’ll lose some users with previous experience with another OS to “It doesn’t work the way it did on $ancient_version of $OS, I hate it,” that go back, some just get tired of the same thing and want to try something new, and others that hit the walls of the garden and decide they want out. If it was straight garbage and restrictive, on top of being expensive, nobody would hang around until they got comfortable enough that overcoming the friction of changing was a real obstacle to switching.
There’s just a disproportionate representation of folks like myself in tech communities versus the general population who are opposed to any walled garden, no matter how polished, when there exist a free alternative.
Linux owns more than server/web space. It’s everywhere. A lot of IoT is Linux too. Also drones, router, switches, NASs, smart white goods, cars, etc, often have Linux in somewhere too. TVs were Linux, but are now Android, which is Linux but not GNU/Linux. Basically user facing Linux is often Android, though not the Steam Deck.
IoT is 80% Linux. Linux owns every space except Game Console and Desktop, at least that I can think of.
BSD and other permissively licenced code is used a load in games. PS4-PS5 are FreeBSD based I think. GCC is often the compiler used for these platforms. Though maybe Clang + LVM now. So loads of FOSS is used, but these is little community participation. That what non-copyleft allows. Maybe it’s better now. I left games over 12 years ago now and not really following.
it’s very popular with developers due to being a turnkey posix environment. given the choice between mac and windows for development, i would go with mac every time. it’s not my personal first choice but it’s tolerable.
WSL is very workable as a dev environment. I just wish it wasn’t so janky with networking.
i don’t know about “very”. it is a crutch. a well-made crutch, but still a crutch. i curse it every time i need to connect a serial port.
what exactly does MacOS Own exactly?
Space in your amygdala, apparently.
what exactly does MacOS Own exactly?
It certainly isn’t the enterprise space, ALL their business features and integrations are half-assed at best and downright painful to use at worst (ESPECIALLY iOS device management, fuck what a shit show that is)
I came up with the phrase “Windows is an enterprise OS with consumer features, MacOS is a consumer OS with (half-assed) enterprise features” to describe it perfectly.
Have you used windows lately? I swear it’s become half-assed as an OS. Might still have the enterprise management features, but it’s incredibly painful in a mixed enterprise environment that is not standardized office boxes. (e.g. science equipment). I avoid it like the plague if at all possible due to it’s now quirky nature.
I’m dating myself, but at least NT didn’t crash all the damn time when you access a share on a NetApp or install a new version of the evil Java… Etc.
As an enterprise admin, I concur.
Windows seems to be turning into some kind of weird botnet that exists only to waste wattage and bandwidth on updating itself and looking for security risks. I have weirdly fond memories of NT… but I don’t miss updating JRE on 1k+ machines though…
Application virtualization, folks.
Chuck your JRE in an environment with the content that needs it and be done.
Yes, im crying they’re killing off app-v…
Yes, our environment is 50/50 MacOS/windows atm
I do agree that windows is getting shittier by the day and it’s bleeding into the enterprise side of things. But, it’s nowhere near as bad as MacOS is in an enterprise environment. At least Windows meets you (an enterprise/org, def not as a consumer) half way and has a high bar to fall from. Apple’s offerings…were never good, always felt forced and an after thought. The “Apple Magic” only applies to regular consumers ig lol
And then those “enterprise features” get borked on the next major macOS release.
Oh you wanted to ensure your remote assist tool could be granted the proper permissions to work? Well screw you! We took away the ability to grant Screen Recording permissions through a MDM profile. Suck it!
In case you didn’t know the Screen Recording permission is needed to be able to view the display/screen in applications like Zoom when screen sharing or for remote assist through Screen connect.
Apple’s “reason” was essentially “… Think of the users! It’s for their security”.
damn that sucks, but on the other hand, Management then also cant smuggle in screen capturing software to snoop on their devs/users.
As a Sysadmin I would be immediately looking for a new job if management wanted to snoop on employees machines via a screen recording/capturing software. I wouldn’t want it done to me and I sure as hell wouldn’t feel right deploying such spyware!
Not to mention it immediately errodes the fragile trust between IT and the rest of the company and troubleshooting or implementing changes becomes that much harder.
What I tell EVERY person, not just coworkers, is DO NOT TREAT THIS AS A PEROSNAL DEVICE. Keep your personal stuff off the work machine.
It’s not even because of snooping by the company. What if the company performs a remote wipe after an unexpected termination? If that device is the only place you kept important documents… Well, you are up shit creek without a paddle.
Now, the type of remote assist tools we have make it very clear to the other person we are connected and can see their screen(s) - connection notifications, persistent banners and disconnect notifications. Every team I’ve worked on makes it protocol to ASK the employee if we can remote in.
It might seem like a formality but honestly if someone hasn’t heeded our advice and is logged into their banks site I don’t want to see it! It’s very much a CYA policy for IT, but it also shows respect for other employees privacy.
I’m pretty sure that could be negated by having a dot appear somewhere in the corner if the screen is currently being recorded. That would prevent silent snooping at least.
That’s at least what my phones does for certain sensitive permissions, like camera or microphone.
Yep, we have about 30% macOS clients. It’s clear from Apple decisions that they favor the user as being an individual rather than an organization. The amount of third-party junk stapled onto the OS to enable a semblance of management is very un-Apple-esque.
Organizations can absolutely be the user or consumer of a product. In my Windows 11 Home edition, I definitely feel who they see as the user, and it isn’t me.
I’m old enough to remember when people thought OSX Server was a competitive option because it was technically “unix”. Needless to say, once people figured out Apple was using Linux for their own servers, despite numerous attempts to switch over to OSX Server. OSX Server went tits up. Apparently OSX Server hung around as an addon to OSX for casual use.
The “luxury” space. It’s overpriced hardware with an honestly relatively pretty aesthetic and the OS has so many guardrails they’re hard to really mess up, and when someone does mess it up, apple stores are ubiquitous enough that its a pretty quick trip to get it fixed. Perfect for people with a bit more money than sense who don’t want to or have the time/ability to figure out how to properly use a more flexible OS that requires a bit more knowhow to use and not break.
It’s overpriced hardware
Have you seen the M4 benchmarks?
If you’re memory bound then sure, you can get way more bang for your buck with Intel/AMD. But for pretty amazing CPU performance I think the “Apple is overpriced” trope isn’t really true any more.
It comes and goes… When the original MacBooks came out, especially with the Core 2 Duo, they were actually competitive with other manufacturers… Then the value started to lower until it wasn’t competitive anymore.
CPU isn’t the only specs I’m looking for, supporting a beefy graphic card for 3d rendering is also a must, at least for me to quickly get renders done, and dollar for dollar, getting a customized computer running windows will take me much farther and faster than any Mac will.
Sure the CPU might be amazing but CPU isn’t the only important part of a computer.
Laptops that won’t die in 2 hours? Even with Asahi the difference is 30%
MacOS owns the developer/sysadmin laptop market.
I would say thats mostly because of Company policies since devs would use the same tools you would use in a linux box. As an Android Developer and CICD Manager I really hate that I have to use a MacBook Pro when a good ol Thinkpad would be more than sufficient.
I would say thats mostly because of Company policies since devs would use the same tools you would use in a linux box.
Not at all the case for me and for other devs where I work. We can freely choose to run Linux, and some people do (mostly backend devs). M-series MacBooks dominate though because of the simple fact that they are just so much more powerful than the alternatives.
Since you’re doing Android development, you’re probably saving some very significant amount of compile time, if you’re running an M-series MacBook Pro.
When the M1 was released there were actually stories of companies sidestepping normal device replacement policies and upgrading all mobile devs to M1s because of the time savings involved, which should tell you something about the power in these machines.
Since the release of the M-series, the MacBook Pros have gone from being primarily a fashion item to becoming primarily a tool for work - someone made the apt comparison that the previous MacBooks were trying to be Lamborghinis - pretty to look at at the expense of functionality, while the M-series are tractors - tools to accomplish jobs.
Same. We have an iOS build, and it turns out you can only debug iOS apps on macOS.
Other than that, none of my job needs macOS, and I honestly hate macOS, but it’s what we standardized on due to iOS support, though we really only need one or two macOS devices because 99% of our app is the same across platforms.
Let’s be real here, the vast majority of developers are not the type of person to want to dig into the depths of their computer. Then just want something that works so they can write their code.
They may have started that way, but doing a hobby as your job will kill almost all interest you have in it.
I mean, yeah sure, but do you think that every linux user distro hops (especially on company time) and tinkers with dot files all the time? Eventually the linux user will settle down to their preferred config, store it on their source control and be done with it.
On the other hand you have MacOS where you can customise uh… darkmode or lightmode with an accent color (okay thats the same with GNOME) and perhaps your shell of choice but thats it.
I don’t think half of our devs have even changed their wallpaper. They’ll set the UI to dark mode, and that’s about it for the OS. They’ll tweak their IDEs a decent bit, but OS wise they really don’t seem to care.
Unix certification.
OSX Server would like a word.
Linux is not UNIX
The *nix desktop space.
Year of desktop Linux is when? 😆
Mine was like 2005 for home and 2012 for work. Windows and Mac are a distant memory. Thankfully.
2006 for me. Work varies depending on the company and position, but I mostly find ways around it.
“Whale space”, as their are going for those that like to spent more?
American space, so nothing of worth, really.
Would be great if true. My company (a quite big one in the health sector) runs on MacBooks.
Scheiße, hoffentlich nicht die TK.
Ne, wir stehen aber in direkter Konkurrenz zur TK (und nicht als Versicherer).
Worst orchestration options of any modern operating system?
Obscurity is not security. Obscurity is the fake sensation of privacy, you are on the hands of the creator.
and on the hands of the NSA
Lol this comment section is on fire. Irony died in 2015.
People like a good flame war 🤷
Just because one understands trolling doesn’t mean it can’t be fun to discuss the things the troll brought up.
Especially when it’s cold outside.
Thank you, you made a buncha nerds angry and now they’re fighting in the comment section >:(
Agreed. Thank you, but sincerely.
Now this is the kind of trolling I sincerely advocate.
I did a wtf at dude 4 in frame 3 until I realized he was getting punched and not… well… if you don’t see it maybe I’m just net-warped.
i mean, dude 3 of frame 3 has the right expression for someone in that exact situation
Thought he was giving the zucc as well
Any judgment of “best” needs to specify “for what use case?”
I’m a MacOS daily driver, and I think it is the best for most of the use cases that matter to me.
But not all of them. And my use cases could easily change a little bit and make MacOS a miserable choice to stick with.
Everything is a trade-off.
Edit: And as for closed source security, I hope nobody seriously makes that argument anymore, do they?
To quote from a paper on the topic of OS security:
According to the paper [5], windows is the most user friendly and has more hardware compatibility. In terms of security, Linux is the most secure among all OS given that it is an open- source operating system which gives users the ability to customize and implement security patches. As for memory management, macOS is the better option due to its fully integrated virtual memory system which is often on and continuously provides addressable space up to 4 per process. The virtual memory system allocates extra space for swap files on the root file system as a program uses space.
All available OS offer some level of security features such as firewalls, antivirus software, and encryption [6]. macOS has a level of security due to its unique operating system designed specifically for Apple devices with no third-party developers involved. Linux, being open source, is often regarded as more secure than Windows, which is a target of many malware attacks [7].
windows is the most user friendly
This is entirely dependend on what you’re used to I think, because I used to think this too but now I can’t do anything with windows anymore.
I thought MacOS being the most user friendly was its only claim to fame.
Shoving basic settings under “accessibility” is not intuitive in the slightest.
A good gui first interface is probably their main metric.
Linux is great for tinkering. But if you don’t want to tinker just change some setting it’s pretty awful. Every DE and their associated settings programs leave a LOT to be desired. Windows at least has only one (maybe two thanks windows 8+) ways to do anything and it’s well documented.
Command line? Yeah Linux is great. But most people want to avoid that at all costs.
Sounds settings have at least 3 places where they can be set in Windows, and the places don’t necessarily implement all of the functionality of the others.
Windows settings are a mess.
Basically. Using windows after spending a decade plus with Gnome and macOS is cumbersome.
As for memory management, macOS is the better option due to its fully integrated virtual memory system which is often on and continuously provides addressable space up to 4 per process.
Wow, 4 whole memories per process?!
I don’t think this is of interest, this is an article in a student journal, written by one person which seems to be a student too. The quote is weak and cherry-picked.
A quote from the same paper:
Security measures in Linux are slim to none as it is a free OS to download.
Linux is the most secure among all OS given that it is an open- source operating system which gives users the ability to customize and implement security patches.
Imagine trusting folks to keep their stuff up-to-date, though. People get very hostile at the mere suggestion that they need to update when “everything works fine right now, why should I?”
The quote is not about installing security patches but implementing them. Terrible paper.
When people say that (usually older folks that are used to something) they usually mean the UI. I wish there was a vendor that would keep their UI constant while patching just security and bugs.
It wouldn’t be such an issue if each OS didn’t have several design languages side by side.
Windows has 10 different design languages all still there in the OS. It should have stuck with MetroUI and finished updating everything to it, Fluent is an eyesore in my opinion.
MacOS can’t keep things consistent to save itself.
And Linux has KDE/Breeze and Gnome/Adwaita in their niches, with the older Windows 95 imitations still around.
Android is probably the least worst. Material and Material U.
Honest question, what does MacOS do better than Linux? The only benefit Mac has, IMO, is their ecosystem, and if you don’t use Facetime or iMessage I see no reason to stay on MacOS vs installing something like Linux Mint. My case is a little different, since my Macbook Pro keyboard no longer works UNLESS I am on Linux, but I still much prefer Linux to MacOS in almost every way.
They still do.
