Unwashed Chicken is totally safe if you do this one amazing trick.
Cook it properly.
If you don’t know how to do that by sight or touch then buy yourself a instant read thermometer.
Washed chicken won’t be any safer if it’s undercooked, salmonella isn’t a surface only danger, so you can remove the “unwashed” part at the beginning.
And by washing it you might spread the salmonella all over the place.
Washed chicken is a stupid concept, I was including the unwashed part because that is the default state of uncooked chicken.
Unless you accidentally drop a chicken on the floor and don’t want to waste it, there isn’t a reason to wash it.
Do people wash pork chops? steaks? hamburgers?
People of West Indian descent often wash meat like pork and beef with a vinegar solution, but not ground meat
I often wash my beef and pork with a vinegar mixture called mustard then scrub it with a dry abrasive spice mix before I put it on a smoker for a few hours before searing the outside for a few minutes.
I don’t know how I survived before these meat washing times.
ITT: people who undercook their chicken think that washing is what’s saving them when in reality, washing your chicken only enables a host of cross-contamination issues. Congratulations for turning your sink into a biohazard facility.
Rinsing and scrubbing will spread micro droplets a lot further than your sink.
i thought it said “than you sink” and that you were making a German coastguard joke
vat?
Are you sinking about?
Shoutout Cornelis Drebbel
This is why I don’t clean the dishes in my sink… Not trying to spread any micro droplets.
Red meat can be eaten rare, because even if the inside is raw, it’s not usually contaminated by anything dangerous, while chicken meat has to be throughly cooked because it’s the opposite… So washing the outside is useless.
Only if it’s a slab of meat, like a steak. Ground meat mixes up all those contaminants, so unless you grind it yourself from a slab with the outsides cut off (still iffy), cook your ground meat thoroughly (medium well is probably enough). You can get away with a sear on pretty fresh steak though.
And then there are the Germans, eating raw ground pork on a bun.
It seems, you can get away with raw meat, if you buy it freshly ground from the butcher.Edit: wrong kind of meat
On a bun? That’s Mett and it’s pork. Yes, ground raw pork. It’s quite tasty. Sprinkle of onion usually.
He’s getting it mixed up with Wisconsin, which does raw ground beef on a bun.
Tratare sandwich? Sounds delicious!
Yeah, as long as the equipment is sterile, and the edges with the bacteria are removed. That’s not happening at your local grocery store.
I buy my filet américain at my local grocery store. It is made of a beef/pork mix (the fancier the more beef) and usually has an expiry date of T+2 days thanks to the added preservatives.
Industrially processing raw meat is perfectly doable, much to the Americans’ utter disbelief. Belgium has entire specialized industrial supply chains for the massive local demand of raw ground meat bread spread.
Certainly, it’s just a lot more work than the less sanitary “chuck the extra meat into the grinder” method we use here.
I’d love to try that raw beef spread BTW. I’ve had beef sashimi before, and it was great.
I’m Italian and I caught toxoplasmosis eating raw sausage ground meat as a kid, sooo…
But I did that for a long time before anything happened.
Wait, you don’t eat chicken medium rare?
If you hold your chicken for ten minutes at temperature, you can cook it medium rare and pink. https://blog.thermoworks.com/chicken-internal-temps-everything-you-need-to-know/
Eww. Also tough so also eww.
What kind of regarded shitfuckery is washing chicken? What u washing off the bacteria that will die by the time the chicken reaches a safe temperature? This just seems like a good way to spread salmonella all over ur sink with no advantage.
Yeah, I remember seeing some clip of some British science woman and whatever, washing chicken is not only fucking dumv, but a great way to spread bacteria
Yeah it potentially splashes salmonella round everywhere.
Yea, there was a short series a few years ago with a cute blonde (hey, she gets guys to watch).
She visited a lab and demonstrated very clearly why washing chicken is a bad idea.
And how much difference soap makes when washing your hands, especially after handling something like chicken.
She also covered a bunch of chemical uage from the Victorian era.
Wish I could remember the show name for you.
she gets guys to watch
Can confirm, I clicked on NBTV and Eric Talks Money because the girl be cute, and I stayed because the info is good. I’m happily married, and can confirm it absolutely works. I wouldn’t be surprised if the same works on women and people of other genders and sexual orientations with the respective gender.
Yea, from what I’ve read attractive folks hold our attention better, and attractive women do more so, for both men and women.
Something in the way we’re wired.
Don’t you wash your sink?
Are you crazy? I’ve been seasoning that thing for years, I don’t want to ruin it by washing it!
it should be almost done marinating now. Can’t wait to put it in the oven, next to the dish rack
Ok, you’re oven must be huge!
Bold of you to assume the size of my sink.
Only correct reason not to wash it
Do you disinfect your sink as often as you make a meat dish?
No I don’t disinfect it just like I don’t disinfect my dishes. I wash my dishes (those that cannot be machine washed) and after I am finished I wash the sink.
Why wash the chicken then wash the sink and surrounding area when you can just not rinse the chicken and cook it without issue?
Washing the sink is just part of the washing dishes or making food in general. Sink will get dirt anyway. Do you just leave it dirty and grimy all the time?
No I clean it as I need to. Do you stamp around your house with muddy boots? I mean you clean your floor right?
Floor is not part of making food. Sink is where the non-dishwasher stuff is washed to be food safe.
Ok different question. Why wash your chicken when there is no need? I worked in catering for years and we never washed chicken. Why do you feel the need to?
I don’t wash my chicken.
Lots of people really do.
Losing taste is one thing, but it can actually be dangerous by spreading salmonella&friends.
Didn’t watch the video, but I have a degree in this field. We were taught to always wash chicken, in a separate room. I was given an earful one time when I was working at the kindergarten kitchen when I forgot to wash chicken thoroughly.
Edit: I should notice, all my comments apply to a factory setting and business grade kitchens. Multiple people corrected me that cooking at home is different and you should not wash your chicken at home kitchen.
You’ll have to be more specific about what “this field” is. Restaurant sanitation? Food safety? Chicken washing? Microbiology?
Whatever your degree, it’s not the recommended practice.
https://ask.usda.gov/s/article/Should-I-wash-chicken-or-other-poultry-before-cooking.You render meat safe to eat by killing the bacteria with fire, commonly called “cooking it”.
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Degree is in Food production technology. Sanitation, safety of preparation and storage. Before cooking, meat can go all over working place, and it can contaminate it if not washed.
Sounds like you maybe learned about food preparation in a factory setting, which is different than in a kitchen setting.
Per USDA and CDC guidelines, you shouldn’t wash poultry before cooking because you’re more likely to spread any contamination, you’re unlikely to remove contamination that’s present since it’s not like it just lives on top of the tissue, and it’s already been washed during processing.
Obviously if you’re the party doing the actual processing for distribution then things are different since you need to remove potential traces of feces, dirt or other surface contamination.
Yes, I think there was a miscommunication. You’re correct about the factory setting.
Maybe your should edit your previous messages to mention that it doesn’t apply to a kitchen environment so you don’t spread disinformation.
Thank you, I edited my top comment.
You were taught wrong. You don’t wash chicken. It only spreads germs.
I’m inclined to trust my professors that had years of experience, rather than someone off the internet.
The FDA doesn’t recommend it, and I am more inclined to trust them instead of a single professor. If you really do it in a different room there should be not be any contamination, but in my opinion it is bad practice anyway. It’s much safer just to cook the chicken to the right temperature. But maybe you can point us in the right direction if this should be handled differently in bigger kitchens, like you said.
I mean, the more you handle it, the higher the chance of contamination, so if you just chuck it in the pan…
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You’re absolutely correct.
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That is the correct position to hold.
They’re only correct because they’re referring to a very specific situation that, for all intents and purposes, is completely wrong for any situation the average person will encounter.
So no, they’re wrong from a consumer perspective but right in factory conditions. So no matter what their professors say, don’t listen to this person because you’re not cooking in factory conditions.
I meant, out of context, that listening to your professors rather than internet randoms is the correct position to hold.
Yeah, I don’t disagree with that so long as the particular context is included when being passed off as normal in specific conditions. It was not mentioned that the professor stated this was for mass production and the comment was provided in a context that invalidated what they said. In context, without the edit, the professor’s advice is immaterial to the discussion and only serves to spread misinformation on proper hygienic practices.
But to the overall point, this is why you don’t listen to random people on the Internet! Sometimes you get told facts that are only true for very specific edge cases that are bandied about as general advice with the weight of ‘i have a degree’ as confidence even though the advice is objectively wrong in the provided context.
I dunno who taught you that, or what dipshit was running a school that allowed it, but the bare fact that it is not only unnecessary, but potentially dangerous, has been known for decades.
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always wash chicken, in a separate room
Oh dang, I’ll have to move to a bigger house. My current home is lacking a chicken washing room.
personally I just use the bull de-horning room for this purpose
Dang, and here I am with a converted mirrorball and beehive emporium like a fool.
Hang on. You’re telling me, all kindergartens in your area have a separate room, just for washing chicken? Like"Here’s where the kids keep their bags, here’s the toilets, this is the chicken washing room, and over there we keep the crafts."
There a multiple compartments to every kitchen, at least should be to adhere to sanitary documentation. A separate room for washing dishes, a
